Norge Reference 2000 Stereo Amplifier

particleman · #41 21st May 2008, 04:49 PM

It would be easy to mock Norge and say that they are not worthy of labels like "reference" or "audiophile." But how many Indian brands offer decent sound quality at the price they do? They may slip up a bit with tuners but their mainstay - stereo amplifiers - are well constructed and provide pretty darn good sound for their 4-figure price. Most importantly they have opened the doors to hi-fi for many a music lover on a budget who else may have had to opt for mini-component system.

If not for dazzling sound quality or state-of-the-art features, let us at least commend Norge for sparking interest in separates and being many an audiophile's "starter system" and for providing years of dedicated service to the audio industry.

ranjeetrain · #42 21st May 2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by awedeophile

You should've bought their 'REFERENCE" Tuner instead

Read this:

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[*]Mr Shyam Bajaj was nice to deal with - Expected, all sellers are[*]The delivery was prompt - Expected[*]The sound quality was OK - Expected. I wouldn't expect a "REFERENCE"
level performance from a tuner costing so less.[*]The product was quite armature - Discovery. Would have been good to share it well in time[*]No auto tuning - Should be known in much advance. What would you call a buyer who doesn't know what he is buying? A tuner with "Auto tuning" or "Manual tuning"[*]No user manual - Should be known much in advance whether the product comes with a manual. Anyway, I haven't read a manual for a tuner in my entire life and I can tune perfectly (and for God's sake, I am not even an awedeophile).[*]No remote - Should be known in much advance. Why crib later if you don't know in advance what you are buying.[*]Forgets the manually tuned stations if it is switched off for more than a day - Discovery worth sharing

and then decide, who is worth mocking, the seller? Or the buyer?

awedeophile · #43 21st May 2008, 05:10 PM

Sir, the marketplace today is global. It doesn't matter if the product is made in India, China, USA or Turkey. The product should stand up to the manufacturer's claims and be worth the amount spent on it (period). Norge has as much access to technology and components as an amplifer manufacturer in Europe or anywhere else.

I have nothing personal against Norge or any other Indian manufacturer.
In fact there have been Indian company's like Series and Pulz (I have owned both) making seperates since much before Norge and they were IMHO very good products. In fact, the Pulz pre-power had replaced my Yamaha (Made in Japan) integrated at the time (circa 1986).

ranjeetrain · #44 21st May 2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awedeophile

You should've bought their 'REFERENCE" Tuner instead

Read this:

Quote:

[*]Mr Shyam Bajaj was nice to deal with - Expected, all sellers are[*]The delivery was prompt - Expected[*]The sound quality was OK - Expected. I wouldn't expect a "REFERENCE"
level performance from a tuner costing so less.[*]The product was quite armature - Discovery. Would have been good to share it well in time[*]No auto tuning - Should be known in much advance. What would you call a buyer who doesn't know what he is buying? A tuner with "Auto tuning" or "Manual tuning"[*]No user manual - Should be known much in advance whether the product comes with a manual. Anyway, I haven't read a manual for a tuner in my entire life and I can tune perfectly (and for God's sake, I am not even an awedeophile).[*]No remote - Should be known in much advance. Why crib later if you don't know in advance what you are buying.[*]Forgets the manually tuned stations if it is switched off for more than a day - Discovery worth sharing

and then decide, who is worth mocking, the seller? Or the buyer?

awedeophile · #45 21st May 2008, 05:13 PM

Mr. Rain.. The correct spelling is "AUDIOPHILE" and we heard you the first time!

ranjeetrain · #46 21st May 2008, 05:18 PM

Are they cheating? Are they doing something unethical or which is not a business practice?

If not, then just understand that you get what you pay for. If their products are not good VFM money, bring on what beats them at their price point and get done with it. Or else, just go out and buy the best you can afford, rather than mocking someone for their efforts. They are certainly not worth being mocked.

ranjeetrain · #47 21st May 2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by awedeophile

Mr. Rain.. The correct spelling is "AUDIOPHILE" and we heard you the first time!

I know. But I just love to spell it like that when I have the mood.

awedeophile · #48 21st May 2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ranjeetrain

Are they cheating? Are they doing something unethical or which is not a business practice?

If not, then just understand that you get what you pay for. If their products are not good VFM money, bring on what beats them at their price point and get done with it. Or else, just go out and buy the best you can afford, rather than mocking someone for their efforts. They are certainly not worth being mocked.

I repeat that I have really nothing against Norge, it's owner or their products. I don't think I have even heard anything they manufacture so can't comment on that front.

My comments were directed at a post stating that they should not be compared to products from MNC's and more expensive ones. The point I was trying to make was that if can't complete with products made by MNC's and those more expensive than theirs, then they should not choose to badge their products "Reference" and "Audiophile". This is my personal opinion - that's all.

awedeophile · #49 21st May 2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ranjeetrain

I know. But I just love to spell it like that when I have the mood.

Don't you mean when you're IN the mood? Grammar too?

ranjeetrain · #50 21st May 2008, 05:35 PM

Either way mate. A good wine tastes good whatever its name

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