Mains power trip switch?

Discuss Mains power trip switch? at the Audio Video Accessories within the HiFiVision.com - India's Audio Video Hi-Fi Forum; Hi, I have my 2-ch music system, and tv connected, via a made-to-order extension, to ...

Go Back   HiFiVision.com - India's Audio Video Hi-Fi Forum > Audio Video Essentials > Audio Video Accessories

Notices

Audio Video Accessories Speaker stands, hi-fi racks, power conditioners, remote control, headphones, isolators, etc

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 13th August 2008, 04:38 PM
PbR's Avatar
PbR PbR is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 78
Reputation: 11
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
PbR is on a distinguished road
Mains power trip switch?

Hi,

I have my 2-ch music system, and tv connected, via a made-to-order extension, to the wall-plug, and am quite happy with such a power supply arrangement.
(this set-up was previously connected via a ups, but since the ups died, for reasons not related to the load, I had opted for direct connection)

The question I have:

Is there a switch/relay/trip mechanism such that when the mains power goes off, the input get cut, and remains cut when the power comes back, UNTIL it is MANUALLY (or via a timer) reset?

Cheers
PbR




Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 13th August 2008, 04:56 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chennai
Posts: 1,024
Reputation: 285
Thanks: 6
Thanked 270 Times in 196 Posts
venkatcr is a jewel in the roughvenkatcr is a jewel in the roughvenkatcr is a jewel in the rough
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Current electric circuits are fitted with a circuit breaker fuse system. If a fault develops, a switch is tripped. These trip switches are usually fitted near your fuse box, and near your electricity meter. When an fault occurs in the circuit, before blowing the fuse, these switches trip, meaning they move to 'Off' position cutting off power to your room and appliances. These trip switches are usually mechanical - this means that power is restored only when you re-set the switch to 'On' position manually.

Switches can trip for a number of reasons:

* An over loaded circuit - too many electrical appliances used at once
* A faulty appliance
* Shorting dues to water or leakage
* Faulty connections on appliance leads.

If a switch is tripped, unplug all the appliances. Set the switch to on position. Plug the appliance one by one till you locate the faulty appliance. When you connect a appliance and the switch trips again, that is the faulty appliance.

A image of a switch is shown below.

Cheers
Attached Images
File Type: jpeg TripSwitch.jpeg (1.8 KB, 34 views)
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to venkatcr For This Useful Post:
PbR (13th August 2008)
  #3  
Old 13th August 2008, 05:00 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 219
Reputation: 34
Thanks: 9
Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts
kaushik is on a distinguished road
Re: Mains power trip switch?

some ELNOVA Upss have that feature , i have a Elnova 500VA
it does the same !

if you want a low cost solution u can try the circuit attached !

kaushik
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ON_delay.jpg (16.3 KB, 30 views)

Last edited by kaushik; 13th August 2008 at 05:35 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kaushik For This Useful Post:
PbR (13th August 2008)
  #4  
Old 13th August 2008, 05:18 PM
SuhasG's Avatar  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 318
Reputation: 57
Thanks: 32
Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts
SuhasG will become famous soon enough
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PbR View Post
Hi,

I have my 2-ch music system, and tv connected, via a made-to-order extension, to the wall-plug, and am quite happy with such a power supply arrangement.
(this set-up was previously connected via a ups, but since the ups died, for reasons not related to the load, I had opted for direct connection)

The question I have:

Is there a switch/relay/trip mechanism such that when the mains power goes off, the input get cut, and remains cut when the power comes back, UNTIL it is MANUALLY (or via a timer) reset?

Cheers
PbR

I am not sure if any ready made Switch is available to offer this exact functionality. Check with people who do panel wiring, pump-motor dealers . What Venkat has shown is a Circuit braker its operation is different than what OP has asked for.

If no such device is available or found but expensive then a.A small electronic circuit can be designed to do this job.

A realy + simple driving circuit (with latch) (just a Transistor and couple of resitors) with Push button (momentary action) make it on and a simple DC power supply to power this circuit. This is called as a Latching relay circuit.

The Relay will actutally make / brake a big switch that in turn deliver / cut off powewr to . HiFI gear.

When you power up the set up. (Latching) Relay is in OFF state so the big Swich is also OFF means there is no power to your HiFI gear. Now you need to press the Push Button, Relay will be ON (and because it is latching type, will remain ON as long as power supply is there) that will make the big Switch ON and power will be delivered to your HiFI gear. Now if power fails and restores back, Relay though powered will return to default OFF position and unless you press the Push Button no power will be delivered to your Hifi gear.


I lost touch wiht electronic components market but such small gadget can be had for Rs 300-400.

Find any Electronic Hobbiyst or final year engineering (Electronics) student, s/he will built this circuit over a week end.

Hope this helps

SUhas

Last edited by SuhasG; 13th August 2008 at 05:19 PM. Reason: Typo, new lines added
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to SuhasG For This Useful Post:
PbR (13th August 2008)
  #5  
Old 13th August 2008, 05:28 PM
PbR's Avatar
PbR PbR is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 78
Reputation: 11
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
PbR is on a distinguished road
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by venkatcr View Post
Switches can trip for a number of reasons:

* An over loaded circuit - too many electrical appliances used at once
* A faulty appliance
* Shorting dues to water or leakage
* Faulty connections on appliance leads.

Cheers
Thanks Venkat, I am aware of the circuit breaker switch, which trips on the above fault conditions. What I was looking for (as SuhasG) has pointed out, is a switch which trips at power-off, and requires a manual reset for power-on.

Cheers,
PbR
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 13th August 2008, 05:33 PM
PbR's Avatar
PbR PbR is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 78
Reputation: 11
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
PbR is on a distinguished road
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Thanks SUhas,

Yes this is exactly what I am looking for!

Some time ago, when I described such a device to a household electrician, he could not understand it (or perhaps my tamil!!), hence the query.

Cheers,
PbR


Quote:
Originally Posted by SuhasG View Post

Hope this helps

SUhas
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 13th August 2008, 06:24 PM
PbR's Avatar
PbR PbR is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 78
Reputation: 11
Thanks: 5
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
PbR is on a distinguished road
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Thanks kaushik, let me see if my electrician can do this!!

PbR

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaushik View Post
if you want a low cost solution u can try the circuit attached !

kaushik
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 13th August 2008, 07:36 PM
awedeophile's Avatar  
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Between my speakers!
Posts: 246
Reputation: 21
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 4 Posts
awedeophile is on a distinguished road
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by PbR View Post
Thanks Venkat, I am aware of the circuit breaker switch, which trips on the above fault conditions. What I was looking for (as SuhasG) has pointed out, is a switch which trips at power-off, and requires a manual reset for power-on.

Cheers,
PbR
What're you looking for is a Motor Starter. Available with any industrial electrical store that sells motors, etc. Cost ~ Rs. 1000/-. Will switch off when the power goes and needs to be manually started. Some brands are BCH, Siemens & Telemecanique.

If you want something with a timer based reset, these are also available with or without high/low voltage cut off, etc. Products Main
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to awedeophile For This Useful Post:
PbR (13th August 2008)
  #9  
Old 13th August 2008, 07:56 PM
SuhasG's Avatar  
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pune
Posts: 318
Reputation: 57
Thanks: 32
Thanked 43 Times in 31 Posts
SuhasG will become famous soon enough
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaushik View Post
some ELNOVA Upss have that feature , i have a Elnova 500VA
it does the same !

if you want a low cost solution u can try the circuit attached !

kaushik
Instead of 2 X 555 use 556 . It is 2 X 555 in one single package, more economical in terms of cost and PCB space.

Last edited by SuhasG; 13th August 2008 at 07:58 PM. Reason: typo
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 13th August 2008, 10:11 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chennai
Posts: 1,024
Reputation: 285
Thanks: 6
Thanked 270 Times in 196 Posts
venkatcr is a jewel in the roughvenkatcr is a jewel in the roughvenkatcr is a jewel in the rough
Re: Mains power trip switch?

Sorry PBR and everybody else on this thread. I seem to have misunderstood the requirement.

PBR you seem to have got the answers you want.

Cheers
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads for: Mains power trip switch?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Voltage switch from 110 to 220 Colecutter Amplifiers 6 1st May 2008 11:15 PM
Switch Off!!!!!!!!!!! dinyaar General Chit Chat 54 1st May 2008 01:05 PM
Power Cord Shoot-Out: 22 Power Cords Reviewed Neal Audio & Video Cable Reviews 1 1st April 2007 01:10 PM
Speaker Switch paj4x4 Speakers 4 9th February 2007 07:47 PM
Mains Power supply and Hi-Fi Mohan AV Enhancers & Room Acoustics 2 8th September 2006 12:32 PM


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 05:49 PM.


Copyright © 2006-2008, HiFiVision.com All Rights Reserved.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64