Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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Can pioneer read Multisession DVD's ?? Also does it have a USB 2.0 slot ?
Thats a true and true. Pioneer can do both.




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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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In my personal opinion, Pioneer is better than Philips or Sony, simple because they have been manufacturing DVD Players for a long time. If you see Secrets of Home Theater & High Fidelity and their famous DVD Player Benchmark, Pioneer have always been at the top along with Panasonic and such brands. The benchmark is not much appreciative of either Sony or Philips, at least in their budget variety.

Pioneer has been using a proven internal transport and basic video circuity for a long time. The new models do have additional features and connectivity, but the players dependability, MPEG decoding, and DAC circuitry have been rock solid for a long time.

At 6K, the DV-600 will be hard to beat.

Flared, don't even look at Panasonic, Denon and other brands. They are more expensive and outside your budget.

If you can lay your hands on a good piece of the DV-600, I think you should go in for it. Even a DV-400 is very very good.

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What about sound out compare to Dennon?
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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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What about sound out compare to Dennon?
Spirovious, the Pioneer, Samsung etc., are all budget DVD Players. You should use a coaxial/optical/HDMi out and allow the AVR to do the DAC and sound decoding.

The Denon players are in a different league with better build for DAC and sound decoding. But they are also, at least, twice as costlier even for the lowest 1740 model. If you want the DVD Player to do DAC and sound decoding, yes, the Denon should be better.

But the comparison with budget Pioneer and Samsung players will not be fair as they are different price points.

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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

I am quite confused between the two( Pioneer , Samsung). My requirements are as following:-

MY AVR will do all the sound decodings, so as far as sound is concerned any dvd player with digital optical out is enough for me. I play 99% divx movies mainly documentaries and English movies downloaded from the Internet and I will be playing them through a flash drive or preferably a 250gb hdd ( I intend to buy one later on) so USB 2.0 is a must. DVD-A capability is not much required as I don’t have any 5.1 discs !
Now both Samsung and Pioneer have all my above features. So now the face off is more about which DVD Player plays Divx Video best ?? For me that is most important. I have ruled out Phillips has it does not have optical digital out. Help here would be really appreciated. I intend to buy this player within next week max.
I am ready to pay the price differential of pioneer if the video quality will be better .
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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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I am quite confused between the two( Pioneer , Samsung). My requirements are as following:-

MY AVR will do all the sound decodings, so as far as sound is concerned any dvd player with digital optical out is enough for me. I play 99% divx movies mainly documentaries and English movies downloaded from the Internet and I will be playing them through a flash drive or preferably a 250gb hdd ( I intend to buy one later on) so USB 2.0 is a must. DVD-A capability is not much required as I don’t have any 5.1 discs !
Now both Samsung and Pioneer have all my above features. So now the face off is more about which DVD Player plays Divx Video best ?? For me that is most important. I have ruled out Phillips has it does not have optical digital out. Help here would be really appreciated. I intend to buy this player within next week max.
I am ready to pay the price differential of pioneer if the video quality will be better .
Illusion,

I would not rule out the Philips just because of the lack of Optical outs. In any case, the Coaxials are the best for sound.

The Philips is the DivX Ultra certified player here. The Pioneer 410K too is a DivX Ultra certified one, I think. The Samsung 1080 PK is not Divx Ultra certified. However it is DivX certified. Ultra is the benchmark on DivX playability. If that is very important to you, you might want to consider this.

If you are looking at using USB drives and connecting that to your DVD, here is something you need to consider. In the Pioneer, if you connect the USB, there is no simple way to go back to your disc. You have to switch off and switch on. I think that is very stupid. At least that is the way I was shown the demo of a Pioneer DVD.

The Philips plays very well and has good USB connectivity but it has a very cheap looking remote. By far the Samsung has the best remote of the three.
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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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I would not rule out the Philips just because of the lack of Optical outs. In any case, the Coaxials are the best for sound.

The Philips is the DivX Ultra certified player here. The Pioneer 410K too is a DivX Ultra certified one, I think. The Samsung 1080 PK is not Divx Ultra certified. However it is DivX certified. Ultra is the benchmark on DivX playability. If that is very important to you, you might want to consider this.

If you are looking at using USB drives and connecting that to your DVD, here is something you need to consider. In the Pioneer, if you connect the USB, there is no simple way to go back to your disc. You have to switch off and switch on. I think that is very stupid. At least that is the way I was shown the demo of a Pioneer DVD.

The Philips plays very well and has good USB connectivity but it has a very cheap looking remote. By far the Samsung has the best remote of the three.
Coaxials and opticals perform the same for short distance but that is not the reason why I ruled it out.

My amp has one coaxial in and two optical ins. My coaxial in is already occupied by my portable player dock and only the optical ins are free . hence i had to rule out phillips

I had already mentioned the fact about how phillips 5956 output quality(Divx Videos) was zilch as compared to Sony NS 76 in this forum somewhere . Now I will repeat the same question here - Does the Phillips 5996 and 5956 use the same Mediatek version Chipset ??.

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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

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Coaxials and opticals perform the same for short distance but that is not the reason why I ruled it out.

My amp has one coaxial in and two optical ins. My coaxial in is already occupied by my portable player dock and only the optical ins are free . hence i had to rule out phillips

I had already mentioned the fact about how phillips 5956 output quality(Divx Videos) was zilch as compared to Sony NS 76 in this forum somewhere . Now I will repeat the same question here - Does the Phillips 5996 and 5956 use the same Mediatek version Chipset ??.
Videohelp.com should give you information about chipsets. I did take a demo of the Sony DVDs with the same source material (albeit cut into a CD because the Sony did not have an USB input) but was not specially impressed.

Samsung certainly has very good pictures, but if it is the best DivX compatibility you are after then it has to be the Pioneer (if you are ruling out the Philips).
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Re: Samsung DVD-1080PK Vs Pioneer DV-600AV-S

Generally if you compare the reviews for the Sony NS708 and the Samsung 1080PK the Sony has gotten superior reviews.....even consumer reviews on amazon.com (where the comparable model is the Sony NS700) give the SOny an edge. It is a good player for the budget, but there are some slight issues with image noise. Colour reproduction is excellent and dark scenes and handled well.

I will definitely be upgrading to an Oppo or a Denon as soon as I can afford it. If you've invested in a biggish HDTV, it's worth investing a bit more on a DVD player that can do justice to it.
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Generally if you compare the reviews for the Sony NS708 and the Samsung 1080PK the Sony has gotten superior reviews.....even consumer reviews on amazon.com (where the comparable model is the Sony NS700) give the SOny an edge. It is a good player for the budget, but there are some slight issues with image noise. Colour reproduction is excellent and dark scenes and handled well.

I will definitely be upgrading to an Oppo or a Denon as soon as I can afford it. If you've invested in a biggish HDTV, it's worth investing a bit more on a DVD player that can do justice to it.

I think samsung Divx- quality is nothing great . In fact I found LG to be much better. I took a small demo of both and Samsung did not impress me. I have heard a lot about Pioneer , I plan to demo the same soon. Lets c !
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