Help in setting up a Home Theater

I would prefer with the Wharfedale speakers compared to both the Denon or Polk speakers.

I think Denon is good for both Stereo and/or AV Home theatre when compaed to the Yamaha.

Project : To acquire a complete value for money system
in 45-50K. Time frame to deceision making process -
2 months.



Dear Folks,

I am a complete novice and am really looking forward to
all of you for help and advice.

I am from kolkata and am afraid will not get all the
brands that are available in mumbai - bangalore circuit.

For the last 2 days am exploring the net for expanding
my awareness on the subject. First time realised that
there exists these forums and there happens so much
exchange of information. Was only wishing how nice it
would have been if there existed an indian counterpart
and then accidentally bumped into this site....!!

Thank god i got this site. At least i can verify with all
you expert audiophiles what i learned is right or wrong.

It all started with one day me visiting a local
electronics show room and asking for a home theatre.
And like most of us, idiotic morons, was getting excited
to whatever was being served on a platter...the lg,
samsung, philips, sony, akai, sansui....

The first time the eye brows shrinked when realised only
25% of catalogue is actually on display. Noted the http
and came back home. some sites i wrongly rememberd
so naturally hit google. And lo! there you are.....!!
So much to learn so much to cover. I instantly fell
in love with the subject.

So, here are my learnings, and guys please validate or
object. Pls just dont sit back and scroll down and log
out. say something, at least.


1. All the so called big brands are also passionate like
the smaller prestigious but lesser known brands..but
their passion is not placed on the product. Its rather
on the market share, profitability and wooing
the customer. Customers would do well to drink a bottle
of flavoured milk (nutritious-but not advertised) than
a pepsi or coke ( which has manufacturing expense of
90 paise per bottle and we buy at 10-12 Rs)..rest is
hype....


2. Its good not to jump into conclusions. Patience is
the key. In the process of gathering info, what today
looks like a wise deceision, tomorrow becomes obsolete.
So hold on...after all its a pleasue to suffer in pain
of not being able to get what u want even if its there.

3. While the av receiver is science, speakers are all
about craftsmanship.

4. The best parameter to watch out for a receiver is
THD over complete frequency range rather than say at 1khz.
And in all respect it has to be below 1%.

5. Not all wattage talk is bullshit. More wattage
more money. Plus bigger the wattage, clearer is the
sound. There is a layman's indicator attached here:
the heavier the receiver, the better. Why? Simple,
Amplis, actually convert power to sound. How will
they handle big load more easily if they themselves
are not muscular?

6. Another laymann's logical thinking. Unless i eat
more how will i produce big bang. So it is not possible
for a 150W power consuming ampli to give u 1000W music.
So look for higher power consumption figure.

4. Time changes, world changes, and so does technology.
So it would be wise to be future ready. For example
HDMI...world is awaiting desperately to upgrade.

5. But what to do, neither the tv nor the dvd has
such options. Hence, when we upgrade to HDMI dvd
we need to be assured that we need not again upgrade the av.
Relax, the key is to look for input output ports. The audio
signals have to only go thru receiver, and if it has
separate 7.1 inputs u r thru...
Even if u bring home a new hdmi compatible dvd, and
a blue ray movie, they can be joined together themselves
(i assume you have hdtv with hdmi port)

6. Speakers: This is the toughest part. again thumbrule-
the more the rms value, the clearer will be the sound. The
idea is no component shd be over loaded...or there is
distortion.

7. There are 4ohms, 6 ohms and 8 ohms. Impedence matching
is now a thing of the past. Only point worth keeping in mind
lower speaker impedence will draw more and overheat the set. And
vise versa, but for a 6ohm out put speakers og 8 ohm will
not have difference in sound quality. Yes of course, the wattage
will be low. Almost all receivers are now with overload protection.

8. Lower the sensitivity of a speaker, u will have to turn the
volume knob more. anything less than 88db is not quality speaker.

9. U only live once, so u only buy once. Very few indians go
for upgrade, as we dont have a vibrant e-bay community
or availability of refurbished shops like west. And beleive me
everybody, overstreches the pocket. So buy a good receiver
and connect anything that "speaks" to it. Later on, as u r able
to pump in more moolah, change one by one. u will become a famous
"donor" of speakers. neighbourhood will also find amazing each time
they hear ur music it is better than previous time.

10. I seriously beleive its possible to build something which would
be true value for money combination within 45-50k.

Guys..........now the floor is yours.

One last thing- is there antbody who wd be willing to upgrade and sell
me his velodyne cht front row.....?? I guess they are the maximum
applauded speakers in their category. The company seems not producing
them anymore............thanks all of u.

hi mayank

Try Yamaha rxv 461 along with Kef 1005 speaker package or JBL'S SCS 260.5 , both are beautiful packages and i think it will suit ur budget., also audition Marantz 4001 Reveiver.

happy listening
mohan

Cyrus,

I have Dyna audio FOCUS 220 floor standing speaker and have added Definitive Procinema speakers to complete the home theatre setup. Which A/V receiver(presently have Cambridge 540R) do you suggest for the best output I use it to listen to Movies DVD Videos, Music in that order. Any suggestions on the same will be helpful.

Regards,

Arvind

Mayank,

I bought black ash colour Jamo S 606 HCS 3 few days before. I took Marantz SR301 amplifier, best suited for music and movies both. In one line, I would say GO FOR IT. You can go through the below link to know more about it;

http://www.jamo.com/Default.aspx?ID=5922

You can read about their reviews on the internet too. I myself did all kinds of RND before buying. I upgraded my subwoofer by Jamo SUB 300 instead of SUB 250.

This is a denmark based company formed in 1968, and they are only in sound systems, which makes them special. They have branches in almost each n every country. There services are also excellent with good gauratee periods. You can directly contact through their website for negotiations.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Shawn

Hi Shawn,
Can you mention the prices you paid?
>You can directly contact through their website for negotiations.
Can you point to the link on the website?

Thanks.

Hi,

www.jamo.com

You can directly login to their website, and look for the contact details locationwise. Below are the links, follow them;

For delhi:

http://www.jamo.com/Default.aspx?ID=...25691A004EC344

Decibels
B 43 Greater Kailash-I
110048 New Delhi

Phone: +91 11 4163 1854
Fax: +91 11 5163 1857
email: decibels@decibelsindia.com


For Bangalore:

http://www.jamo.com/Default.aspx?ID=...25691A004EDB3B

Cinerama Private Limited
16-A Industrial Suburb 2nd stage, Yeshwanthpur, Tumkur Road
560 022 Bangalore

Phone: +91-80-233 70 220
Fax: +91-80-233 70 222
email: sanjay@cineramagroup.com

I myself bought from bangalore Grauda mall;

Cinebels:
Tel: 080-32935266, 56641178 ( Magrath Road) Mr. Jagdish

Tel: 080-22384331/ 22384385 (Millers Road)

email: cinebels@vsnl.net

About my payments:

5 speakers (Jamo S 606 with marantz SR301 amplifier): 60K

They were giving me subwoofer SUB 200 for 10K. But, I went for a upgraded one, SUB 300 for little higher price.

But, the pundits say you don't really need the sub woofers with this system. Its enough to give that thump effect by itself. So, it all depends on your personal choice.

Its better you directly contact the main dealers, you can negotiate at a better price.

I saw most of the system from diffrent masters, but no doubt JAMO I found the best. But, again its your personal choice. I looked for noise free system with excellent sound effects.

About their reviews, you can go through the following liks;

http://www.tech.co.uk/home-entertain...amo-s606-hcs-6

http://www.gadgetguy.com.au/reviews/...sound-speakers

http://www.jamo.com/Default.aspx?ID=...roductID=17850


I read this article somewhere:

'' Jamo has been manufacturing loudspeakers since 1968. They have extensive knowledge in the audio industry and have some of the best loudspeakers in the world. Their flagship model R909 is currently walking away with numerous awards world-wide. There are many loudspeaker manufacturers on the market, Jamo is simply one of the better ones who offer really good quality products which are still affordable. Jamo is the only loudspeaker company to offer a 7 year warranty on loudspeakers and 2 years on electronics.The Wharfedale brand is imported by Hi-Fi Corporation and whereas Jamo specialise in speakers, you can purchase Wharfedale fridges, toasters, irons etc."


These systems are also available in all the e-zone in most of the malls. Do let me know if any doubts, will answer whatever I can.

Thanks,
Shawn

Thanks Shawn.
That was extremely detailed.