Denon 1708

Hello Guys,
Just want to "separate" my questions from my Onkyo thread.

1) Has anybody heard of Denon's 1708's issues?
2) Does anyone have a pricing for Denon 1708? (will club with the 1st)

Best Regards
Raman

Hi Raman 340
I'm not sure of the pricing of Denon 1708 but I do have the pricing of Denon AVR 1707 7.1 Ch ,Costs around 30K in Delhi .
The Specs for this model are:-
75 watts x 7 into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.08% THD
Dolby Digital� EX, DTS-ES�, Pro Logic� IIx, DTS Neo:6, and DTS 96/24 processing
High-current, low-impedance amplifier design
192kHz/24-bit Analog Devices DACs
Dual-room/dual-source output
5.1-channel input for SACD or DVD-Audio
Video Conversion S-video/Composite to Component
Surround Modes DTS NEO:6, DTS ES, DTS 96/24, Dolby Pro Logic IIx, Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Digital / AC-3

1 suggestion,if you can stretch your budget a lil bit,do consider the
MARANTZ SR4001 80 RMS X 7 AV Receiver
Costs around 36K & It was awarded Winner of Best AMP/AV Receiver of the Year 2007 $800-$1000- Sound + Image 2007 Awards
Specs for this model :-
80 Watts x 7 Channels All Discrete Amplifier Stages(20-20,000hz)
1080p via HDMI
Power Output (8 Ohm) 80W x 7
S/N Ratio 105dB
Freq. Response (Analog In) 8Hz - 100kHz (+/- 3 dB)
Freq. Response (Dig In) 8Hz - 45kHz (+/- 3 dB)
Power Consumption 500W
Analog L&R In 8
Analog L&R Out 3
Digital Optical In 3
Digital Coaxial In 2
Digital Optical Out 1
Digital Coaxial Out 1
M.R.A.C (Marantz Room Acoustic Calibration)
Digital Signal Processing Cirrus Logic- 32-Bit
DTS (ES, Discrete 6.1/ Matrix 6,1, Neo-6) � (+ 96/24)
Dolby Digital EX, Dolby Pro Logic IIx ,Circle Surround II.

Dolby Headphone
Phew...

Also you can try Marantz 5400 a 6.1 AVR with 90 W/channel. Its older and one level higher model to 4001 and available in delhi for lesser price now around 25k with original warranty. have a try, don’t worry as it’s not a 7.1 it is a very much value for your money. Denon and marantz all two division in the same company called D&M now.
-Sk

Thanks Samuel and SKT

I liked the specs for M4001. I will have a re-look. But I don't know what cost v/s feature benefit design will I get from shifting D->M. (Dolby HP for sure). But I am also planning to buy a pair of Sennheiser headphones. Lets see.
BTW will M4001 be able to handle 4 ohm high current speakers.?

Hi Raman340,
Yes the Marantz 4001 can handle 4ohm speaker load but I personally don't recommend cause it may affect its performance in the long run.You wont have much problem driving with 6ohm speakers though.

Music & Movie sounds are very dynamic,A 4ohm speaker can go much lower than its rated impedance.So an Amp rated at 8 ohm can easily handle 6 ohm,4ohm & may be lower too...But when handling lower impedance continously for a long time the Amp gets hot and can go into thermal protection mode for a moment.

So 8ohm load ->:-)
6 ohm load->
4 Ohm load->
2 ohm Load->
Baseline ->

Anyways Enjoy & be happy

Hi Raman,

Hv seen the 1708 & heard it too. Besides all what has been said, its bulkier than the 1707 & most importantly has HDMI which the 1707 didn't have. You can look at the 1908 also. At Fairdeal in B'bay the 1708 is priced at ar Rs 20K & 1908 at ~ Rs 24K. Value for money i wd say. I'm personally settling for the 1708 which i'll be buying in a week or so.

Regards

Vinod

Hi Samuel
Nice Depiction... in the end.
But I heard if the Amp vol is kept low and a clip point is set, then it wont overheat. Is it correct?
Naturally, all sellers say that the "amp in question" will run fine with 4 ohm loads. I read the manual of 1708 sometime back and it depicted the same info as you said. Just want to get first-hand feedback.

Hi Vinod
Good to find a fellow guy in the same boat.
I liked the 1708 for the new features (Audessey MultiEQ). But now I am confused (and upset) again for the HDMI part.
1) 1708 doesn't o/p audio via HDMI. You would need a coax/optical for sound.
2) What good is VDO only HDMI, when it doesn't also do:
a) inter-analog conversion
b) analog-HDMI conversion
(which is available in higher end versions)
Have you heard of Denon AVR-888?
Personally I feel that without the 2) feature, HDMI just reduces the no of cables needed (not a problem for me, I am concealing anyways).

And BTW is it first-hand and with bill stuff at Fairdeal?
I think thats a ROCKING price!!! (can I have a link to their site or their number)

Hi Vinod,

Can you please post the fairdeal's contact no? It would indeed be grateful of you.

Thanks
Raman