Human hearing and standard CD Vs. SACD / DVD-A

suniil · #11 31st March 2008, 06:17 PM

but we can feel & see it

. right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Srinath_Murthy

Indeed, after our teen years, most males can't hear anything above 15 kHz.

dinyaar · #12 31st March 2008, 09:51 PM

Hi Srinath and Sunil,

Srinath interesting read.

Sunil congratulations on a superb set up and having the courage(& dough) to follow ur heart.

Best regards

SHANTI · #13 31st March 2008, 10:18 PM

Hi !

No one wrote about DVD-A;

Has anyone heard it ?

Are titles available ?

How is the platform ?

Is it alive ? Gone in the wind ?

Posts would be appreciate.

Thanks,

ranjeetrain · #14 2nd April 2008, 12:17 AM

If someone rips a RBCD and burns the same material on an SACD the sound would definitely be the same (or worse). This might well be the case with a lot of records companies who do not have access to the master tapes and resort to re-mastering from their current source. But if someone re-masters from original tapes from scratch a difference can be heard in 99% cases, provided the associated equipment are capable of reproducing the extended frequencies.

Even with limitations to human hearing, human body is capable of perceiving frequencies beyond audible range. In form of harmonics and dynamics. If that were not the case, people wouldn't be crazy to spend billions on R&D to develop new formats such as SACD/DVD-A/HDCD etc.

ranjeetrain · #15 2nd April 2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHANTI

Hi !

No one wrote about DVD-A;

Hi Shanti,

DVD-A is *supposed* to be a better platform. SACD couldn't become a popular format due to Sony's strategies. It remained a proprietary format and is on its way out.

DVD-A offers similar capabilities and has the trust of many studios.

HDCD aspires to replace them both.

What kinda world are we living in?

Nalzan · #16 2nd April 2008, 01:35 AM

DVD-A is *supposed* to be a better platform. SACD couldn't become a popular format due to Sony's strategies. It remained a proprietary format and is on its way out.

DVD-A offers similar capabilities and has the trust of many studios.

HDCD aspires to replace them both.

What kinda world are we living in?[/quote]

Seems you've got it a bit backwards actually.DVD-A is a dying format.SACD is still alive and well (albeit mostly for western classical lovers) which is why most top end companies are still making SACD players.HDCD is actually quite a bit older and never caught on.
Regards.

SHANTI · #17 2nd April 2008, 01:41 AM

I am not so sure; but my 2 bits :-

HDCD was owned by Pacific Microsonics & is now under the stewardship of Microsoft.

DVD-A Forum is almost dead;
Its main supporters were Meridian & Toshiba
SACD is alive & chugging along. Main supporter being Sony & Phillips.

HDCD is a Reb Book Format.

DVD - A has a 'watermark' issue that has not been settled & hence no one has / is supporting it. Some 180 + titles have been released on DVD - A

SACD has many many titles. 1000 + and different record labels support it.

True, there are more SACD Players in the world as compared to DVD - A Players. There for I have never had a chance to hear one.

Has any one on this forum auditioned a DVD - A Player ? Is there one in India ?

smedhavi · #18 2nd April 2008, 01:51 AM

>>>HDCD was owned by Pacific Microsonics & is now under the stewardship of Microsoft.

...and MS practically killed the format. There was a time when 70 albums nominated for grammy were recorded on HDCD. This time I guess it must have been close to zero.

>>>If someone rips a RBCD and burns the same material on an SACD the sound would definitely be the same (or worse). This might well be the case with a lot of records companies who do not have access to the master tapes and resort to re-mastering from their current source.

This was the case with early CDs and cassettes too. Many times you can hear a scratched LP record playing. I am sure some of the BluRay disks in the market are up-converted/upscaled DVDs.

Regards,
Sharad

unleash_me · #19 2nd April 2008, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nalzan

...DVD-A is a dying format.SACD is still alive and well (albeit mostly for western classical lovers) which is why most top end companies are still making SACD players.HDCD is actually quite a bit older and never caught on....

Bulls eye!

Kamal · #20 2nd April 2008, 01:56 AM

I have one but don't possess either a DVD-A or a SACD-could'nt find one containing the kind of music I like.
Not much choice in Delhi.

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