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Old 12-05-08, 01:34 AM
 
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PLease help me outtt.....!!!!





Hi All,

I am a passive member of this forum...and a novice in the field of AV...

I dont know the difference between a audiophile product and a normal product...becoz i never got a chance to hear any of those....

The reason I am posintg today is...I m pLanning for a Home theatre....

My budget is around 50000/-

Planning for 2 FS/ bookshelf with AVR...and then would gradually add to it....

My room size is approx..200 sq ft...
it will be used for 50 % music and 50 % movies....
music taste...I listen to anything from classical to Pop to soft rock.....

so please give me some suggestions regarding the setup (Sepaker and AVR combo) I should audition....

But first and foremost I need advice regarding Speaker cables.....
I am renovating my living room...so I need to be done with the wiring....

so please suggest me ...about the brand of speaker cables...an affordable one though... ( Hope i get some brand in my budget
I would need 50 M of wires....and I am planning to spend...atmost 10% of my budget...

so please guide me.....

1. speaker cables.
2. speakers ( FS or bookshelf)
3. AVR


Thanking you all....


Regards,

Sam
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Old 12-05-08, 12:38 PM
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Re: PLease help me outtt.....!!!!

Hi,

For the budget you've allocated. some of the options are,

1) Wharfedale diamond 8.4 with yamaha 661(very very decent seems like tailor made)
2) KeF IQ3 with Denon 1508 or 1708
3 Mission M34i with yamaha or denon AVR.

As with cables try Supra they are good and Bandridge is also very and more economical compare to any other brand including the before mentioned Supra.
By all means the Bandridge is the safest bet(with your allocated budget) !! but do scout around and check out the deals on Supra and others.

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Old 12-05-08, 12:45 PM
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Re: PLease help me outtt.....!!!!

Hey Supra is good but not cheap!!! If u require 50 m then look elsewhere as it will eat up a lot of the budget. If i am not wrong the classic supra speaker wire 16 gauge is Rs 400/ + tax per meter in mumbai.
Am not into the HT experience so cant really guide u on cables but i guess 16 gauge is the minimum u should opt for.
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Old 12-05-08, 01:38 PM
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Re: PLease help me outtt.....!!!!

Hi,

Yes Dinyaar you are 100% right its very expensive and I've made it clear in my post aswell !! I wanted him to use it for at-least fronts if not for entire set-up so that it sounds good in music mode.also I've clearly mentioned that Bandridge is THE choice for him as typical 16gauge of Bandridge costs around 60+ and should be ok.

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Old 12-05-08, 02:37 PM
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Hi,
YA he should use decent cable for the fronts and economise on the rest. I personally feel Supra makes good cables. Have tried some of the ICS, speaker cab les and power cords and i feel they are good. Wonder why its not as popular as the likes of chord,VDH and the likes.
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Old 12-05-08, 03:14 PM
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Hi,
Yes its very good,I don't know about international but in India the cable is not popular coz of the attitude of the importer and distributor (already changed two hands),when you contact them for some requirement they care a damn to respond or to do business,Even for dealers enquires they don't respond properly !! So obviously no dealer wants to carry them and sell them ( they are not in any obligation to do so !!)

Thats the reason why its not popular in india atleast.

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Old 13-05-08, 06:24 PM
 
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Re: PLease help me outtt.....!!!!

Thanks friends for your quick replies....

How are DAC cables....as per the information available on this site....
100M - OFC Dual Speaker Cable- 16 guage-- is for 4600/-
so 50M is within my range....sumthing around 2500/-

if someone is using DAC cables then let me know please....

btw...where I can get SUPRA and Bandridge cables...

and do I need a separate Sub woofer cable ??
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Old 13-05-08, 06:37 PM
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Re: PLease help me outtt.....!!!!

Fact Vs. Faith - unfortunately, its the later who always wins.

All the best with your cable hunting!
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Old 13-05-08, 07:45 PM
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Hi,

The DAC which you have enquired is one of the better cables actually ( sorry didn't cross my mind at all) its manufactured by an taiwan company called MASTER HILL Co. they are only select few companies which manufactures copper by a process called PC (pure copper) OCC ( Ohno's continues cast copper) this method is patented and developed by professor Atsumi Ohno from chiba institute of japan.it is said that the copper manufactured under this process is more pure and more conductive ! when the copper produced through this process, the cross-section when magnified under electron microscope shows the purity and less break-up compared to regular oxygen free copper.

The Facts of this and the pics of this attached for reference !!

But the only problem is,Not all the budget cables are made from this copper ( only the high-end and top of the line products).But still I'd say without any doubt they worth more then their price & best bang for the buck !! you should buy it (try 14 gauge or more if you can and try buying a pre made twisted pair super heavy duty speaker cable from them for fronts).

Regarding Supra as I've already informed importer has changed thrice so who's the current and their I have no idea !! try some high-end showrooms you should find one.

As with subwoofer cable,Yes you should use an dedicayed sub-woofer cable if possible ( DAC does have some for the same purpose,look into it)


Hope this helps !!

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Old 13-05-08, 10:06 PM
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Don't spend too much on wires its all snakeoil.

Anything decent(mid range) should do the job. You would not be able to tell a difference in sound quality with higher priced cables.
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