Blows ..or.. Bose ..or.. Buy.Other.Sound.Equipment

What unethical practices are you taking about huh?? They sell a certain product to a certain catagory of people at a price, perfectly legitimate business if anything it makes great business sense economically plus the important thing here to understand is that IT SELLS ! did it occur to you that people might like them, or you think Dr Amar Bose is playing some magical trick and fooling the whole world and only the audiophiles know the truth.. & ppl like you would help EXPOSE him ( the retard ) and his company.. well Keep trying!

You call your self a audiophile?? which true audiophile says that the chairman of a speaker manufacturer is a retard ? some one who worked his way up made a unique product earned a Ph.D. in electrical engineering from MIT and built the LARGEST SELLING SPEAKER COMPANY IN THE WORLD en you go an and call him a retard..? wow! its cystal clear who's the retard here ..

What knowledge are u talking abt? " be informed " you fell for thier " marketing stratergy " oh really.. so they havent published the specs so you feel cheated..? Hey you didnt like the sound MOVE ON .. buy something u like not read some article and say bass cuts off at 200 hz and the mid range sucks.. The sound is available for much cheaper, and ur relatives still buy BOSE .. dude pause a min and think abt it.. maybe your missing the larger picture here.. You couldnt convince them what will you achieve by wasting ur time here..

And OH not everyone who says something positive about bose systems is a BOSE REP !!! Plz grow up.. & expand your KNOWLEDGE!

Blows definitely has more love on this forum than it does on any other forum.

Certain product, certain market. Even in these certain bracket there are competitors who offer a much better product/speaker and will let you demo their speakers next to others so that you as a customer can have a fair comparison. Why should one not be given that option?

If it sells is all you care about in a business and not the product itself good luck with your practices till people actually realize what you doing.
An engineer should take pride in standing by his product and i dont think Dr.Bose can do that without facing enough debate from other engineers, like the guy in the link found a $1000 system to use the cheapest parts so that as a company this so called genius has a really high profit margin from people's hard earned cash.

I think he is outright fooling a lot of people and it takes a little time and effort to find out the truth and talk about it. If you want to term that as exposing him then thats fine.

If the retard word is getting all of you i might have been a little harsh, but all in all you personally would you buy bose?
My relatives only bought bose cause of the marketing etc. Once they heard my klipsch promedia they understood what exactly i meant.

People who already own bose equipment stay happy i have no complaints but people who are entering the market look around and realize you have much better options.

No dogs ears unfortunately although that woudlve increased my investment in speakers to get even more frequencies. I hope you know what subsonic(16hz) bass is supposed to do. Its not supposed to be heard but its supposed to be felt. Felt when the alien mothership flies or transformers robots walks around.

Dr.HSU is also from MIT and holds enough patents. His $1000 subwoofers outperform sub woofers costing twice as much and that shows quality engineering. A person who can stand behind his product.

Dissatisfaction from my set up, i wouldve known about that if i had actually heard it lol. All in forget the set up in my signature even my klipsch Promedias 2.1 beat the crap out of bose sound believe it or not. They cost about $200 for a stereo set up, $450 for 5.1.

Bottomline: Bose is crap, the only good thing i can see is the delusional bragging rights you get, but once you utter that name in front of a person who knows 'a' of audio i bet you would get a different response. No bragging anymore.

I also think people should meet satish on the hifi forum since atleast i'll tell them the outright truth with scientific measurements to support my argument.

I feel good in helping others make informed decisions, you dont want advice go spend your money on bose. Get happy every time you see their ad in a magazine/bill board rather than your house where your actually listening to the product and realizing over time how bad it sounds.
Dont make the big mistake of listening to some other reputed speakers cos then that would just confirm the notion that 'you couldve gotten better for your time and money'

My intention here was to highlight the mark-up every mfr.has some more, some less and others obscene. Bose caters to a niche market and not every one be a audiophile to appreciate music. I sometimes wonder who qualifies as an 'audiophile' - is it self certification?

Satish Boy,

Oooucch!!! I guess i rubbed u on the wrong nerve.

From one of your recent qoutes only - "people learn there was a time i had fallen for the marketing". Hmmm....so u admitted submitting into their marketing gimmicks too. Sad for you Relax Satish Boy...we have learned from all the noise u have made here on the forum that Bose is not good. But who is buying Bose anyway? Bun999??? or me??? or your cousin??? Is it not that we make bad purchases in our lives? Bad TVs....Bad ACs....even Bad audios??? But why still degrade a product like that? May be that mass market piece that landed in ur house had the worst quality rating in the factory tests!!! Aren't their people in world who still owe the same product n enjoy it peacefully?

"Blows definitely has more love on this forum than it does on any other forum"
Its not about Love & Hate boy. Your floundering attempts to mate a minimilist to a discerning audiophile is worth appreciating but not in the way u r doing it.

"even my klipsch Promedias 2.1 beat the crap out of bose sound believe it or not. They cost about $200 for a stereo set up, $450 for 5.1." - Comparision. Ever wonder why companies dont engage in having their representatives standing outside a Bose showroom n divert people by blabbering about their products??? Because Mr. Bose definitely understand this more than anything else that an audiophile would always be pre-informed that a life-like sound cannot be produced by defying laws. One day u discovered HSU n soon u began trashing Bose???

"No dogs ears unfortunately although that woudlve increased my investment in speakers to get even more frequencies. I hope you know what subsonic(16hz) bass is supposed to do. Its not supposed to be heard but its supposed to be felt. Felt when the alien mothership flies or transformers robots walks around." Ever wondered why Steven Spielberg never thought of a subsonic dinosorous fart effect??? Ever wondered why Kharma's ceramic tweeters go upto those supersonic 150Khz??? The answer lies in this but you r so blinded by those flying motherships that you will never understand the concept.

"Dr.HSU is also from MIT and holds enough patents. His $1000 subwoofers outperform sub woofers costing twice as much and that shows quality engineering. A person who can stand behind his product." This is like being in school where one shouts hey i got a Aiwa 5000 watts PMPO n yours a sucking boombox eesshh You mean to say others have no quality engineering? Mr. Bose dont stand behind his giant? Bryston's 20 year warranty is fake??? Mr. Lord's REL donot have reliable patents that the industry including Dr. HSU himslf follows??? Every company is different. Every product is different. Every design has a different philisophy. Every product is built with different cost objective. And finally - Price to Performance is subjective.

"I think he is outright fooling a lot of people and it takes a little time and effort to find out the truth and talk about it. If you want to term that as exposing him then thats fine." Well to people who do not have confidence in their own knowledge and have this tendency of loosing out to marketing gimmicks - a niche product is born for them. Efforts to find truth about audio is bygone boy. As i said Price~Performance is subjective so if u n i were so concious about cheap parts for our hard earned cash we would look somewhere else. Let those bygones' have it. I would appreciate if you use ur serious attempts in educating people seriously about MUSIC (i stress MUSIC - the coz y we r here) formats (MP3s, MP4s) that kills the industry rather Mr.Bose who does no harm to u n i by selling his product to someone else.


"I also think people should meet satish on the hifi forum since atleast i'll tell them the outright truth with scientific measurements to support my argument." Scientific measurements So much so for your Yamaha RX-V661 specs - the volume pot has concentrated everthying within that 12'o clock position so that u pride blasting ur MC towers to death. Getting people to believe in that the 16Hz on the paper do deliver those subsonic farts?? So much so for the scientific measurments. Whom are you saving boy???

All said n done - i do admire your honest feeling of saving people who look here n there confused for some honest advice. But that's not the way you do boy. Dont just jump to conclusions from wat people around the world has to say. Use your grey matter for a change.

Take Care

Hi Guys,
I truly thought bose bashing was done with but obviously it isn't.
Am sure there are tons of guys happily using bose products for whatever reason(Convenience/sound/appearance or whatever). If the audiophile in u feels its a disgusting product dont buy it!!! Surely cant call him a Retard, as thats one thing he definately is not.
Have not heard a bose speaker for ages now but i did own a 301 (series II) bookshelf almost 2 decades ago and i did enjoy the sound with a Harman Integrated.
Each and everyone will market their products the best they possibly can so why grudge or ridicule the man!!

And let those be the final wise words on the subject-no point getting nasty with each other over a product...

...Amen!

No amen i plan to make this thread the longest one on this forum lol .
So that at least people like me care for their moneys worth and want to pursue truth in audio before buying can browse through the different opinions and views.

Hi All,
After reading contradictory views I also thought of writing few words as I am user of Bose products in my early years as an audiophile. Bose speakers I have used are AM-5 (or AM-6), Bose 10.2 (another range ) and Bose 901.
I don't think Bose claims they are competing in High End audio market.
It all depends on what exposure one has in music listening when he buys a Bose product.
I was very happy with AM-5 and 10.2 which I used for many years around 1990--1993. I was not so happy with 901 which Bose claimed to be their flagship. Since than I have used many better speakers and my level of enjoying and critically listening music have been changing constantly.
Now i will not buy Bose speakers or Bose music system.
But I may buy one for my computer (a cute looking model/package for computers I just saw in Bose showroom)

But still when I visit a Bose showroom, I am not disappointed as they present and demonstrate a complete package for HOME THEATRE, Computers and music listening . There definitely are better and much better systems but still Bose is able to sell and sell very well. We can't call these customers fools or lack of audiophile knowledge.
MUSIC LIKE ANY OTHER ART IS A SUBJECTIVE MATTER. What I like may not be liked by others.

Customers buy Bose as a COMPLETE COMPACT PACKAGE and they are happy. NOT ALL MUSIC LOVERS ARE CRITICAL LISTNERS or want REL or WILSON BENCH SUB WOOFERS for their home theatre.
Bose solves the problem of system matching, cable matching, source matching. etc. etc. Definitely there marketing is top class and who ever visits a Bose showroom in impressed by their presentation.
On top of this Dr.Amar Bose is an INDIAN manufacturer who is well respected and represented in many countries around the world and every one knows BOSE name like Macintosh, Marantz , JBL etc.
To summarise I will say we must appreciate Bose's contribution to music and home theatre listening.
When I started my career I was very Happy with a scooter, than with a second hand car after a few years. And now I may not get same amount of happiness using a Toyota or Honda compared to earlier years.
I hope I have been able to convey my feelings about Bose.
Thanks for your patience.
Audiodelic please don't mind my comments as I beg to differ just a little bit subjectively.
SKR