Price Increases

To lick your wounds is not to be taken literally vinay!

Since u mentioned that all and sundry are predicting doom and gloom and that a killing can be made if one goes short i presumed that you too may consider that option hence just cautioned you. My frame of mind whether browsing posts on a forum or otherwise is perfectly fine.

Markets may not fall too much is just a personal opinion. One needs divine vision to be a hundred percent sure which i dont possess!!!Stocks should be seen as a means of wealth creation and this kill or be killed attitude/trading with stop losses is fine if it works for you, but my comments are aimed more at long term investors.

Regarding the 'All the empty talk about peaks/bottoms, grow up, put ur foot where ur mouth is(whatever that means) all I can say is hope you have a pleasant jouney with stocks!!

Regarding Shridhar just warning the forum members about impending increases is very different from SOMEONE SPECULATING on whether prices of A/V gear will go up/down. Try and interpret it correctly and in a "better frame of mind" as u put it.

My rack has not come from the UK as the one i had short listed was about 26kgs(carton and all) and would have been difficult for my wife to manage, so am in the process of making one.

Best regards

Dear Dinyaar,

Good Evening.

I hope I could see the frame of mind being fine, i spoke about your frame of mind because about the wounds which you are talking about they just do not exist other then the mind's imagination, literally speaking?

For licking, in the first place there has to be wounds, where did you see it, or did you see some milk, which the cat was licking, and you assumed that those were wounds, let us not forget that naturally when we talk about licking, animals do come around. One can surely use other words which are not reserved for animals.

About the market, rise and fall, I have answered at length, to sum it up empty utensils make more noise, there is nothing more to add but by the way there was quit a silence when the market starting falling from 21,000 from that time many of them are saying that it will not fall further, and now it is say 13,000 and still they are with the same story, it will not fall further, one need's to get up, open their eyes, and live with the market wave, and stop drinking their wounds.

The Divine vision which you are talking about, no one has the same, don't tell me that you were assuming that I knew that you are having hundred per cent Divine knowledge, the problem is with the guys who are holding stocks, and are not letting it go in the form of losses, because they do not have the guts to face the reality, there is not more than 5% in the market here to invest, all are here to make money, so if the stock price goes against you in a big way, what one is holding a vegetable in an intensive care unit or should I say in your respective terms that they are drinking their wounds or licking?

There is nothing like a long term investor, if one has invested in some stocks, say around 2 years ago, and today he stand to loose around 60% of his capital, so what would have been better to live by the stop loss or by the fake long term investor, if one would have sold out earlier the losses could have been around 90% less, and that way his money would have been free, to invest elsewhere, and now what happens is that the so called long term investor is like a lame duck or should I say a vegetable in an ICU.

About the prices of audio video equipments or whatever may the product world wide, it is simple, please do not play the role of god, to say that they know when the price will fall and when it will rise.

Indeed I am having a pleasant journey with the stocks, like the losses which I made in say last 3 months, it is not more than 2% of the capital, while the leading mutual funds guys have lost around 13% while the so called fake long term investors would have lost more than 30% in these 3 months. So who should have a better journey, is anybody's guess.

About the rack you were in talks with one of the manufacturers, who is a member at this site, they had some good racks, were they not good?

I will also tell you best regards.

Vinay.

Hi Vinay
I dont know if you were referring to my initial post, if you were - let me just clarify
Apart from crude oil (for freight), metal prices have gone up in the last 2 years by quite a bit - copper and AL. These are the two most use metals in amplifiers. In fact Ayre quotes this very reason for their 20+% price increase. I dont believe any one is playing the role of God here, but stating the common implication, after all common factors affecting a few suppliers are also bound to affect others - its just a question of time. My post wasnt meant in the intention of saying that I am Nostradamus but just as a warning to other people that a price rise (at least I believe) is highly probable, how much and to what extent may ofcourse vary. I am not forcing anyone to buy in a hurry just because of that, people are mature enough to make their own choices, but few people who arent in the industry will be knowledgeable about what is happening behind the scenes, and this type of insider information may help.

cheers

odyssey,

Thanks for your writing, at the first place please accept my sorry for bringing stock market in this thread, i had given a casual example, about no one knows which way the price will go, had i known that the stock market talk would strech i would have handled it in some other way.

I am not referring to your initial post, in-fact i had not even seen it. For whatever you have written is not an issue for me, i am really sorry for having bothered you.

My main reference point was to pranab, who was trying to say that he hopes that the prices will fall in December, by the time his home theatre would be ready, and he was also trying to say that had the prices not increased now, he would have bought his gadgets, so what i was reflecting upon, is that how can you sense that the prices will fall in December. In view to this i gave the example of stock market, or for that matter, any item in the world, the moment you have a firm view and if you stick to it completely that the prices will rise or prices will fall, is like digging a grave, the rise and fall of prices are decided by too many factors, therefore it would be beter to ride the wave, which ever way the prices go, so let us not play god when it comes to prices.

Thank you very much for your co-operation.

Vinay.

I dont know where all this comes from but thats fine. You suggesting i use different words as a simple phrase like licking your wounds seems to be reserved for animals !! Frankly u should be the last person commenting on choice of words for obvious reasons.

What can i say about your tremendous knowledge and skill as far as the markets go. With the success u have had maybe u should start advising the leading fund managers!!!That way u will be truly helping people.

Anyway regarding this post shridhar has further clarified and no more needs to said. Amazing thing for me is u post without even knowing what the originator (in this case odyssey) is trying to say and then get into pointless arguments about cats,dogs and vegetables in ICU's!!!!!!!

Dinyaar,

I do not understand what you are saying in the first paragraph, keeping in mind that i have replied to you at length, and you are throwing one liner.

About my knowledge with the stock market, i am talking with facts and figures, via contracts and data's, while show us what knowledge you have, other than hiding the losses under the garb of long term investor, over this long term investor factor, also i have written to you at length, and see your silence, that shows what is it, and boy i will never forget that someone is saying that stop loss is not the way to go forward, keeping in mind that the worlds most of the top players in stock market, follow the stop loss mechanism, while i have written other important pointers over which you are out and out evasive. I surely help people around me for whatever knowledge i have with the stock market or for mutual funds, and then see i am helping you also in the form of suggestions on investments, we all are here to learn from each other, as long as it makes sense, the other day i learnt a important point about some risk management.

By the way are you the adviser to some fund managers on long term investment, then please let me know for obvious reasons.

By the way, since you are a broker, and if your customer looses money, what do you tell him, sir please do not lick your wounds.

Best Regards.

Dinyaar,

Well it is surprising that it is you who is talking about dogs, cats, as you are talking about licking wounds, etc.

As far as vegetables and icu, it is your culture in the form of long term investment, stay invested even if the loss is very high.

About your saying that i do not understand what the originator is trying to say, well please read my posts properly and then write to me, but then what to tell you, for so many things you are allready not replying for which i have writen.

So when are you getting your av rack made.

Vinay.

Dinyaar,

Please guide me with all the points which i have bought to your notice, as i have also been replying to whatever you write, it is a great learning experience.

I hope we can wrap this debate in an hour or so, after all tomorrow will be the monday blues.

Vinay.

Dinyaar,

The most important thing i want to know if you are advicing to fund managers or no.

Vinay.

Vinay,
Refrain from talking about culture etc. You didnt like it when someone recently attacked u similarly. I am not here on the forum to really talk about stocks nor am i dumb enough to gloat about my successes /failures at the markets. Try to be careful on your choice of words.
Regarding ur questions. No i do not advice any fund managers as they are smart enough and dont need any advice from the brokers. Yes i am a broker and my family has been one of the first parsi broking firms on the BSE and if a client of mine loses money i can extend my commiserations only as i rarely advice people on what to buy or sell, rather leave it to them and merely act as a Broker. Lastly yes i have been a long term investor( however alien that may sound to you) and am satisfied with the returns from all investments.
For people like yourself i advice a few good books on this subject or maybe even attend a few seminars/programmes to understand the concept of investing a bit better.
My rack is a W.I.P since u seem more than interested.
I would be only too happy to wrap this up as i basically jumped on to this thread as i thought it was nice on shridhar's part to warn members of an impending hike and also just opined on what Ms jambumali suggested about the I Phone. Thats all. I dont know shridhar nor do i want to buy anything from them as am bbay based( as u are aware).