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Well, I am happy it works for you, Srinath. I had a 1 hour audition of the DSW Pro 500 at ProFx and it was not mindblowing. It was definintely economical. If you look at subwoofers at that price, it offers quite good performance. But first and foremost I saw it as a HT Sub.

See, Profx also happens to be dealers for REL and KEF subwoofers. If one takes a demo of those pieces, it would be immediately apparent what that missing musicality is.

I value music far above HT and that is where the EPOS shines.
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Hi thevortex, at the risk if being drawn into a vortex of points & counter-points, I would point out that the location of the sub compensatory room settings are DIFFERENT from PHASE settings. For example, you would typically choose 0 degree phase setting if you sub is positioned along with your main speaker, HOWEVER, you could choose to put your sub in the CORNER of that wall OR MID-WALL (say, under your LCD TV). The "preset room settings" for the latter. Again, for example, the sub would be boomy if placed in the corner vis-a-vis mid-wall...the room location settings finetune this aspect and NOT the phase...I hope that helps... BTW, I researched this in detail (including merits and demerits of Class D versus Class A) before putting my money on this sub...
That is correct. I did not mean that that the pre-settings take care only of the phase.

Aspects such as high pass filter, low pass filter, continuously variable phase, separate amplification section etc. are what adds more flexibility and power to the EPOS. I have heard both and it is my opinion that the EPOS easily outperforms the Polk.

But I understand that opinions may differ. So, I will leave it at that.
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Bhaskie...My mains are a pair of british-made Reflex Transmission Line floorstanders. The company TDL shut down after its owner John Wright (a critically speaker engineer bloke passed away). Two photographs of these speakers are available in another thread...in this forum when some of us users had a guessing game going on during early this year...I reckon that thread is called..."Looking at these drivers, can you identify this floorstander?" or some such title. I have not visited this forum since the past 9 months when I was away from India on work. I power these speakers using my erstwhile Yamaha flagship RX-V2095. I have not had the need to "upgrade" my home theater in 10 years...Except, to add the sub to take away strain on my mains...since the LFE these days are so much more powerful...

Try listening to Bach's THE GREAT ORGAN WORKS CD with the sub...to feel the power of the Pipe Organ making your bones resonate...NOT because of distortion but because of how low the Organ can go aurically speaking...
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Srinath,

I have polk 600. Could you give me some advice regarding the phase settings and cross over. How best to use them.

Thanks
Hi,
See if the file I have attached helps you. I got this from an AV forum I usually lurk in and hope you find it helpful. It goes a bit technical at places and may need a soundmeter to ensure accuracy. I am not sure if you were looking at such extensive setup but thought I'll share it with you all the same.
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Thanks a lot. I have none of the tools except the tape. I will read and try to make use of it.

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You're welcome. I'm not totally sure but you could try your local electronics shop for a sound level meter. Shouldn't be all that expensive. Or you could try using the built-in sound meter in certain Nokia phones like the 5160i, if you have access to one.
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Re: Subwoofer choice

Pradski - what is the crossover that you have set for the low frequencies? And have you matched it on the subwoofer as as well as the amplifier?

On another note, I really felt that the Diamond 9.6 did tremendously well in the bass department by itself. Adding a subwoofer to augment that pair of floorstanders - especially for music - could be inherently tough.
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On another note, I really felt that the Diamond 9.6 did tremendously well in the bass department by itself. Adding a subwoofer to augment that pair of floorstanders - especially for music - could be inherently tough.
Since you mentioned this - I have a question - how does the diamond 9.6 sound with an avr without a sub/center/rear w.r.t movies?

I am planning to get a denon 1909 with 9.6 and use them for both music and movies until i can save enough to get the rest!

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Since you mentioned this - I have a question - how does the diamond 9.6 sound with an avr without a sub/center/rear w.r.t movies?

I am planning to get a denon 1909 with 9.6 and use them for both music and movies until i can save enough to get the rest!

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I have specifically auditioned the Diamond floorstanders with this critierion - no center or sub or surround speakers and found them to be very competent. It is also down to personal preference.

For me surround is not too important. The 9.6 does not sound weak even in movies where hard hitting action is there. It is plenty powerful in the bass department - in fact I have not heard another floorstander which goes lower. At least not one which costs less than 60,000 Rs.

And it is not all quantity where bass is concerned. It is not loose and is well integrated with the midrange and top end. Most of all, the Diamonds are very affordably priced. I am sure you would not be disappointed with the Diamonds even if you go only for them to start with.

To get an idea of how powerful their bass is just connect a Wharfedale Sub 150. It is said to be quite a musical and versatile sub but you would be hard put to gauge its contribution when it is running with the Diamonds. I found I preferred the floorstanders for the base rather than the Sub 150s. When you finally do want to add a sub to the system, I feel you might need to spend more to get it to where you would prefer the sub's more than the floorstander's bass drivers.
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Re: Subwoofer choice

vortex, I have 60Hz as crossover for sub.

I wanted add some for 9.6. It definitely does a good job in bass. I still feel it lacks in lot of higher mid and high freqs.
And personally I feel to reproduce good quality sound forget 1909 even 2309 is not enough. I think best pair of an avr for this speaker will be 2809 in denon. But you know it is my sound which I am considering.
I have seen many happy with 1909 and 9.6.


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