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Decoder and Multichannel Amp

Hello,
Most receivers are doing the dual duty of 1)decoding various types of signals (is decoding the correct term?) and 2)being a multichannel amplifier.

Every few months there are better formats/protocols etc which keep coming out. Is it possible to separate these two sections into a decoding section and a pure multi-channel amplifier? This way the next time there is a new format/protocol there wont be a need to dump the entire receiver.

Im sure there will be multi-channel amplifiers, but what about just decoders?

Any thoughts?

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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

What you are referring to as a decoder is called as a pre-amplifier. Typically so expensive that replacing them would be costlier than replacing a receiver!
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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

So a pre-amp accepts all the signals and decodes them is it? Lets say DTS/THX/HD video processing etc etc processing is the job of the pre-amp?
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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

Saikat:

Equipment that decode Dolby, DTS and other surround sound formats are called by different names. The most common is Preamp/Processor or Pre/Pro. Some companies also call them Surround Controllers.

Just like a 2 channel pre-amplifier, the Pre/Pro accepts inputs from a DVD or other sources, and processes both audio and video. Modern Pre/Pro can decode all flavours of audio codecs, including Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD Master Audio via HDMI. These equipment come with multiple DSP chips to handle audio processing and digital-to-analog (DAC) conversion on multiple channels (upto 12 channels, I think). They also come with room acoustic correction methodology such as Audyssey. Some of these Pre/Pro also allow setting of individual channel to your liking by controlling the treble and bass. Some of them support multiple sub woofers.

Most of these Pre/Pro come with extensive controls mechanism. These include Ethernet for connectivity, RS-232C port for control, Infra Red Input/Output, and what are called 12-volt triggers. This is a simple mechanism by which you can turn an equipment on or off in conjunction with another. For example if you switch on a power amplifier connected by a 12 volt trigger to a Pre/Pro, the Pre/Pro will also power on immediately.

What about new formats? Various manufacturers follow different methods for upgrades. Some follow software upgrade methods by which you can download software and load it on to the Pre/Pro. Some companies make their Pre/Pro like a computer with slots inside. Every now and then they introduce a new processing board, and you plug that in in replacement for the existing board.

Some of the Pr e/Pro have the capacity to process for multiple rooms. In other words you could be watching a movie in your HT room, while someone else could be watching a TV program in a different room. This is becoming popular in the US and other countries, where all the TV connections and processing is centralised with such equipment and then distributed to various display and speaker units across the house.

Companies that make such equipment include Onkyo/Intergra Research, Anthem, Meridian, Theta, Classe, Emotiva, Lexicon, B&K, etc.

You need multi channel power amplifiers to work with with these equipment. In comparison, an AVR comnbines the job of audio and video processing and sound amplification.

As Amol has mentioned these Pre/Pro and the power amp combination are usually expensive. At the same time, through upgrades and other methods, companies such as Lexicon, B&K, Theta and other others promise to save your equipment from obsolescence.


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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

Thanks for the very informative post Venkat.
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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

Hello everyone,
Some more information. Just got to know of a decent pre-amp from Outlaw Audio (Outlaw Audio). They have also announced a price drop..

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Re: Decoder and Multichannel Amp

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Hello everyone,
Some more information. Just got to know of a decent pre-amp from Outlaw Audio (Outlaw Audio). They have also announced a price drop..

Cheers!
Saikat.
Just a word of caution. Outlaw products are made ofr the US market only. Their input is 120V, 60Hz only I spoke to them about a year ago when I was in the US. They said since they are an Internet based company, they are not interested in nor will be able to service any customers outside the US. They said they are worried about their reputation, and do not want the complication of answering queries from half a world away

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