LCD Confusion

the link posted was to show as an example of the side by side comparision feature to show that this is NO amateur site
.but since they have been updating their sites and lots of changes have taken place,in the begining they didnt have the comparision of contrast,color gamut,viewing angles etc only comparision pictures was the ghosting image test,and the text performance.only around 4 months ago did they start adding new comparision pictures. since the pioneer test was done quite a long time back and at that time their site didnt have the 1080p,720p,viewing angle etc images and they are yet to post the panasonic comparision pictures.

well it all depends on ur viewing distance,and the FHD panel in 32inch will also make sense if u happen to sit very close.in the image below u have a 625line,720line,1080line image


From a close distance the 625line image appears more degraded where as the 720line image is better and even better is 1080line image.now increase ur viewing distance around 2.5 meters and above, and u will notice that all images will start to look the same after a certain distance.so i hope u understand whu there are FHD tvs.if u want to sit close to the TV get urself a FULL HD lcd.

but there is also another problem in TV which have higher resolution since when u see a SD content the tv will have more upscaling to do and hence there will be a loss in sharpness and detail which again u can compensate by increase ur viewing distance.


in the below images are from the sony KLV-32W400A which is a 1080p FHD tv.






if u increase u viewing distance at a certain distance all will look the same,but u can notice the fine details of a FHD image at close distance.i hope u understood the benifits and disadvantage of HD,FHD,SD etc by just looking at the image.
all images above courtesy of digitalversus.com

Do you want to say that 1080i or HD ready feature is okay for 32 inch LCD?

Absolutely....at 32 inches, the difference between HD Ready and FUll HD will be very very difficult to discern and not worth the extra cash.

And to the person who started this thread. I honestly wouldn't recommend Philips. Along with LG they lag behind the others in terms of the quality of the panels (jointly) manufactured by them. For 55k there are many options including the Samsung plasma that I own. At the end of the day, just go and check them out yourself and see how you like them.

well at 32inches u can notice the difference b/w HD and FHD, but like i said before it all depends on ur viewing distance,if u got a 1080p 32inch tv and u feed in a 1080p video u can sit as close 4 feet and enjoy the fine details.
u can see the pictures above of the 720p and 1080p image on the 32inch sony FHD lcd.u can also notice that 576i image on a FHD tv is a bad idea.so people who intend to only watch sd can go for a plasma which has a resolution of 1024x768.

and yes philips and lg are behind in terms of panel tech,and image processing.

Are you gonna be watching only static images on the screen? If not, you'll never be able to perceive the difference from 4 ft especially on LCDs with poor motion resolution due to blur. The dynamic resolution of a FHD LCD will drop dramatically because of blurring. Those images are not a guide either cos most TVs these days will downscale 1080p content and not need strictly 720p content. The difference between 1080p and 720p will reduce even more with downscaling of 1080p content to 720p.

well yes but then again in a video u won't always have a moving image lets say they are interviewing a person the person will be moving but the the background image could be static.or for instance in movie troy i was testing a HD DVD version that i got free for xbox HD DVD addon,where when the greece army stands in front of troy when they show the soldiers standing u can see the detail in their armor which they are wearing in 1080p video.also plasma also suffers from motion blur.
for that matter even ur own eyes when u watch a moving object u cant notice and difference its only when the objects comes to a stand still that u can notice the fine details.

now about the 1080p video downscaling to 720p u can still notice that a 1080p video on a 1080p screen is still better then a 1080p video on 720p screen.
simple reason is the 1080p screen as more resolution.
if u look at the below images taken from samsung 720p 42inch plasma and a sony FHD 46inch lcd both of which are feeded a 1080p signal.


the above image from the samsung a 1080p video on a 720p plasma which is downscaled.



the above image from the sony lcd a 1080p video on a 1080p lcd which is 1:1.

From the image, all I can notice is that either they were taken in dramatically different lighting conditions with different exposures set on the camera or the samsung wasn't properly calibrated for accurate colors and shadow detail. Either way those two images don't prove anything and one can't draw any meaningful conclusion from them.

well u cant prove that either

but here is another example this one is from a pioneer KURO 1080p plasma and the samsung 720p plasma.


the above image from the samsung a 1080p video on a 720p plasma which is downscaled.


the above image from the pioneer kuro plasma a 1080p video on a 1080p plasma which is 1:1.

er....adder....i think i will agree with reignofchaos here.....these still images don't look like the TVs were properly calibrated. There's no way in hell there's so much of a difference in the colour reproduction between flat panel displays.....irrespective of whether they are LCD or Plasma, Samsung or Sony etc., Now without proper calibration, the comparison is not a like for like comparison is it?

Motion blur is still visible on LCDs and the difference with plasmas is very tangible. Any casual comparison of an LCD and plasma side by side will testify to this. I don't think these still images are therefore useful for establishing anything material.