Shopping for LCD/Plasma

spirovious · #11 8th October 2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mridulgoel

Selective

What you are requesting out here is a totally out of way question.

I think you may not be aware of the difference.

One side, you are stating 42" Plasma - Panasonic - PV8/80/700
Where
On the other hand you are comparing it with Sony.

Sony is only in LCDs, and Panasonic, concerned models are Plasmas.
So, there is no question, of comparing the two different technologies.

If i am not wrong your basic motive for the Screen is HT. For that there is nothing better than a Plasma.
A LCD may have a very impressive look/brightness/sharpness in places like EZone and all, but that is because of the ambience that is the bright light round the way.
Where, in home, the lights/brightness, is very low.

If you are comparing between a LCD and Plasma, then go again to Koramangala Panasonic Showroom, than tell the person, out there, to switch the 37" LCD, and 42" Plasma, only.. and close all others, and all other lights...
then only you will come to know, the difference...
And dont worry, they will not deny that, unless, they have a huge crowd, as they even are concerned about quality.

Now, the question, of Full HD, and HD Ready.

Then, buddy, it will take not less than 2-3 yrs, for the Full HD Broadcasting to launch in India. And even once they are launched it will take them atleast a couple of years to be cheap enough to be distributed to public...
So, dont worry much about that unless, you are planning to watch Bluray or Full HD disks on that.

Now, regarding the Panasonic PV8 & PV80, then, according to me, PV-80, serves better picture than PV-8, apart from the SD Card and HDMI option, as these things hardly, matters. What matters most is the PQ.

So, audition the things at few more places, then you will get it by yourself, what actually suits your HT.

Hi,I wld like to know more abt Plasma.

I found Plasma has gas burn effect which can damage it for ever.
Especially viewing news or static image.

What is it?

Others pls. share Plasma experiences?any problems?

adder · #12 8th October 2008, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spirovious

Hi,I wld like to know more abt Plasma.

I found Plasma has gas burn effect which can damage it for ever.
Especially viewing news or static image.

What is it?

Others pls. share Plasma experiences?any problems?

well u answered ur own question,although some people say that burn in is no longer a issue the fact is ,its still an issue,so its not recommended for gamers.

selective · #13 8th October 2008, 01:50 PM

I am slowly realising that, I should be opting for Full HD (40'') as I am very optimistic of HD feed from broadcasters and blueray hype touching Indian shores soon. And Plasma Full HD is out of my budget (>1.2 lacs).

This boils down to Sony 40V400 and Samsung 40A550. The reason I am thinking about samsung is, they have slashed the prices of 5 series, so 40" is available for 67K. And spec of samsung 5 series close to Sony 40V400 which costs 75k.

So, still thinking... though the confusion between plasma/lcd is behind me now.

adder · #14 8th October 2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by selective

I am slowly realising that, I should be opting for Full HD (40'') as I am very optimistic of HD feed from broadcasters and blueray hype touching Indian shores soon. And Plasma Full HD is out of my budget (>1.2 lacs).

This boils down to Sony 40V400 and Samsung 40A550. The reason I am thinking about samsung is, they have slashed the prices of 5 series, so 40" is available for 67K. And spec of samsung 5 series close to Sony 40V400 which costs 75k.

So, still thinking... though the confusion between plasma/lcd is behind me now.

well both the lcds are evenly matched the sony has a better contrast and blacks and better upscaler,colors are natural,less input lag(better),while the samsung has a better deinterlacer,and produces a slightly sharper image.

pradski · #15 8th October 2008, 02:18 PM

If the dilemma is in 42" Pana plasma PV 80 69.9k in sumaria

And 40" samsung lcd A 550 Full HD 67k

Sony 40" V 400 75k or the likes of Full HD LG.

what would you suggest, is it still not worth trying Plasma. or the Samsung 550 would satisfy all. in terms of money, specs and PQ. How many Hz is samsung 550.

adder · #16 8th October 2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pradski

If the dilemma is in 42" Pana plasma PV 80 69.9k in sumaria

And 40" samsung lcd A 550 Full HD 67k

Sony 40" V 400 75k or the likes of Full HD LG.

what would you suggest, is it still not worth trying Plasma. or the Samsung 550 would satisfy all. in terms of money, specs and PQ. How many Hz is samsung 550.

well if u are primarly using it for SD content the panasonic plasma has the advantage since it has a lower resolution,if u are going to game consider the sony reason the plasma are still subjected to burn in,and samsung tv including the new series 7 have a very very high input lag.the contrast of samsung and sony are more then the panasonic plasma, sony being the leader.black levels again sony as the advantage.
and LG lacks the contrast of the SPVA based sony and samsung.

mridulgoel · #17 8th October 2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by adder

well u answered ur own question,although some people say that burn in is no longer a issue the fact is ,its still an issue,so its not recommended for gamers.

Buddy..

i agree with your point, that the burning issue, is not resolved...
But, i am not sure if you are aware of the same or not, but
New Tech Plasmas have a burning issue, in a span of 8+ continuous still screen effect, not lesser than that...
Where, LCD have the still screen shift issue, where the still picture is for 6+ more hours...

So in both the cases problem is there, though LCD creates problem with the full line, where Plasmas burn particular resolution bits...

But, yes LCD screen shifting problem, can be resolved, after changing some parts, and through servicing.

So, your point of Plasmas not being recommended for Gamers, thing use to be there, but no more exists...

Now, regarding selective's point for Full HD LCD...
Buddy, even though you are getting a Full HD LCD, at a cheeper rate, but there are a lot for other matters, you will be loosing.. on...
For example... Referesh Rate, Response Time, Through Brightness, Contrast (Blacks)...and much more...

So if you are just considering the Full HD factor, than its your choice, but if you are really considering quality, make sure its a Plasma...

So, make a wise decision...

mridulgoel · #18 8th October 2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spirovious

Hi,I wld like to know more abt Plasma.

I found Plasma has gas burn effect which can damage it for ever.
Especially viewing news or static image.

What is it?

Others pls. share Plasma experiences?any problems?

Buddy, there are many posts, in this forum, few of them are even started by me...

Some of the links are mentioned below :
http://www.hifivision.com/television...s-quality.html
AND
http://www.hifivision.com/television...wise-only.html

And search for more...

adder · #19 8th October 2008, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mridulgoel

Buddy..

i agree with your point, that the burning issue, is not resolved...
But, i am not sure if you are aware of the same or not, but
New Tech Plasmas have a burning issue, in a span of 8+ continuous still screen effect, not lesser than that...
Where, LCD have the still screen shift issue, where the still picture is for 6+ more hours...

So in both the cases problem is there, though LCD creates problem with the full line, where Plasmas burn particular resolution bits...

But, yes LCD screen shifting problem, can be resolved, after changing some parts, and through servicing.

So, your point of Plasmas not being recommended for Gamers, thing use to be there, but no more exists...

Now, regarding selective's point for Full HD LCD...
Buddy, even though you are getting a Full HD LCD, at a cheeper rate, but there are a lot for other matters, you will be loosing.. on...
For example... Referesh Rate, Response Time, Through Brightness, Contrast (Blacks)...and much more...

So if you are just considering the Full HD factor, than its your choice, but if you are really considering quality, make sure its a Plasma...

So, make a wise decision...

well the fact is plasmas suffer from that more then lcds ,and if u look at test articles of plasma the many review sites do warn or sometimes they themself have experienced burn in ,for instance in the panasonic 2008 model plasma review.
now what if a person in this forums decides to buy a plasma and he intends to use it for gaming,now if the person does gets a burn in i am sure he will be pissed off with the person who recommended a plasma,while in most of the lcd test articles they dont warn about that.if u want links i give that too.

well about plasma having the advantage in contrast and blacks yes sometimes and sometimes not ,it depends on what lcd u are comparing it with.samsung and in particular sony have the advantage in contrast when u compare to the plasma models like PV8/80 from panasonic except for the FHD plasma PY800,which has a contrast levels close to that of pioneer.the black levels of sony lcds and samsung lcd again have the advantage against PV8/80 plasma.
and lcd cleary have the advantage in brightness.and responce time well nowdays lcd have improved a lot and can be more then a match to the plasma.

pradski · #20 8th October 2008, 06:59 PM

Thanks everybody, Reading about TV's for the past so many weeks and hearing from many I saw LG, pan,sony and sam. in 37 to 42".

They look good with their HD transmission. With cable or DTH they are pathetic ( when CRT's do well ). And 32 " tv' s give a decent picture.

our transmission is going to be same for quite sometime ( no HD ).

( In my case atleast)Start off with 32" full hd, run for couple of years till HD broadcasts come, then push it to a room and get a real big with full HD. at that time the prices will be cheaper with higher tech and features I think.

Cheers

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