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knock it off both of you. I think that's enough personal sparring for one thread.
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Oh !!! God...!!!

Adder , Baby_ka_jaanu (Sorry dont really know you)....

You guyz please stop the matter...

Plasma has its own benefits and rules the Home Theatre Solution...
Even LCD has its own benefits, though a couple only, and rules the corporate/meetings rooms solutions...

I am in the industry for past 5+ yrs, and was posted as regional manager, south india for hitachi...
And a yr back Hitachi use to top the Flat Panel Market (Quality Wise), and no one can deny on that...

So read my threads stating the realistic technologies and market sucking myths of Flat Panels...
And there is seriously no use of arguing or discussing the same theory fight of Plasma & LCD...

And please dont be childish to fight out here for the same topic over ages...

I have not said all the above to state my experience or knowledge, but the basic concept behind all that is that, i am seeing these perceptions for a very long period, and seriously there is no use to waste our so called left over brains, which is mostly converted into smoke through fags in my case...

And one more thing if you guyz are really interested in knowing more about the technology, of LCD & Plasma then please visit en.wikipedia.org, and search for LCD first than for Plasma...you will come to know the technolgy...

And So please give up all these...

I know still many will laugh on that, and make comments on this of my post, but as adder says...
" I GIVE A DAMN"....
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I'm a big plasma fan but as LCD can offer higher resolution, one should go for LCD if he wants to use his TV as a PC monitor as well...
However, even HDTV is not required when you need TV just to watch Satellite Channels, regular DVD's and for casual gaming...
LCD can also be a good option if you wanna use the TV in your well-lit places...
and one important fact we have missed in this forum about LCD's...
i.e. their response time...
All LCD fans out there... just watch a cricket or football match in a regular LCD TV and you'll find out how important response time is...
Sony has tried to overcome this problem with motionflow but they have stopped incorporating motionflow in the new W series... so unless you got lots of extra money and you don't care about it, go for the sony top models or else you should settle with a plasma from any first tier manuacturer...

Does anybody know why sony doesn't make plasma?

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Does anybody know why sony doesn't make plasma?
Purely business reasons I am sure. They have a JV with Samsung to manufacture LCD panels to cut down on costs and also supposedly as a company believe LCD is the future/better than Plasma so want to concentrate only on it. Now though everyone seems to be moving towards OLED and I am sure the argument about which is the best will start all over again...

BTW Panasonic has taken the opposite view and has decided to go with plasma as the better technology at least for the big screens from 42", 50" etc.
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Purely business reasons I am sure. They have a JV with Samsung to manufacture LCD panels to cut down on costs and also supposedly as a company believe LCD is the future/better than Plasma so want to concentrate only on it. Now though everyone seems to be moving towards OLED and I am sure the argument about which is the best will start all over again...

BTW Panasonic has taken the opposite view and has decided to go with plasma as the better technology at least for the big screens from 42", 50" etc.
I thought so...
Sony is losing its market to new players...
Btw, as far as I know one company (i don't remember the name) used to manufacture LCD panels for sony as well as for samsung and it was taken over by samsung so now we can say that samsung makes sony's LCD panels...
OLED sure is something we all wanna experience... but it's like HD DVD's or BD's... who would wanna change his collection of regular DVD's after spending a couple of 100K's on it...
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who would wanna change his collection of regular DVD's after spending a couple of 100K's on it...
Don't get it. Can you elaborate?
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Sony has tried to overcome this problem with motionflow but they have stopped incorporating motionflow in the new W series...

Does anybody know why sony doesn't make plasma?
well sony have launched the new W450A series which has motion flow as well as the new Z450A series which have motion flow 200hz a first for a lcd tv,it will soon be launched in india already the new W450A are available on order in grey market.
well sony doesnt make their own lcds or plasmas,but sony saw the future as in LCDs,at the time of exit sony 26lcds used to cost almost the same as a 42inch sony plasma.also the resolution of plasma was low,and sony promoting HD via blue ray concentrated on getting HD ready lcds.

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Sony is losing its market to new players...
well sony was at no1 spot in USA in 2006 after taking over the lead from Sharp,but today samsung is the leader in terms of sales ,although most of the sony lcds have the performance edge,it comes at a premium,sony just cant match the samsung prices and with the deterioting global economic crisis,it isnt going to help sony who already laid off quite a lot of its workers.

sony has now partnered with sharp, we will see sharp lcds in sony tv in late 2009.
only sony OLED tvs will have for the first time a sony panel in a flat screen tv,just like the sony famous TRINITRON picture tube the best in CRT.
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Sony used to make plasma's until 05. Its market share was so crappy that not many people have heard about this. Even for LCD it was a late entrant and slowly has moved to #1 position. Sharp is currently #2. Its mid and hi end LCDs are some of the best options out there.

For plasmas, nothing comes closer to Pioneer (and Elite line). While its premium priced, there is a noticeable difference between this and Samsung, Panasonic etc.

Reason for manufacturers to mainly stick to one type of product suite is manufacturing and delivery costs. Samsung, Panasonic are unique for offering both.

Finally, Sony has hardly brought out a game changing produt except the Walkman and the PS3 player. It completely missed the MP3 boom. Many months ago I read somewhere that Sandisk was the #2 seller of MP3 players. I don't have a reference but it was the time when Sansa line was being introduced.
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Sony is not No.1 for LCDs, Samsung is.....Sony may perhaps be No. 2.

Sony is not into "game-changing" anymore, which is why their marketshare and brand value have dropped dramatically in the recent past. They still make good LCD TVs.

As many people have said before, both LCD and Plasma have their advantages and disadvantages, prospective buyers should really just check them out side by side and decide for themselves which they prefer. I preferred Plasma and I thought it was much better value for money.


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Sony used to make plasma's until 05. Its market share was so crappy that not many people have heard about this. Even for LCD it was a late entrant and slowly has moved to #1 position. Sharp is currently #2. Its mid and hi end LCDs are some of the best options out there.

For plasmas, nothing comes closer to Pioneer (and Elite line). While its premium priced, there is a noticeable difference between this and Samsung, Panasonic etc.

Reason for manufacturers to mainly stick to one type of product suite is manufacturing and delivery costs. Samsung, Panasonic are unique for offering both.

Finally, Sony has hardly brought out a game changing produt except the Walkman and the PS3 player. It completely missed the MP3 boom. Many months ago I read somewhere that Sandisk was the #2 seller of MP3 players. I don't have a reference but it was the time when Sansa line was being introduced.
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Sony is not No.1 for LCDs, Samsung is.....Sony may perhaps be No. 2.

Sony is not into "game-changing" anymore, which is why their marketshare and brand value have dropped dramatically in the recent past. They still make good LCD TVs.

As many people have said before, both LCD and Plasma have their advantages and disadvantages, prospective buyers should really just check them out side by side and decide for themselves which they prefer. I preferred Plasma and I thought it was much better value for money.

In terms of shipped units Samsung held #1 but in terms of sold units Sony was the leader. These different measures are used by the respective marketing departments to band up their respective sales pitch. The same reason that Vizio (a relative new comer) was #1 for a couple months this year for the no. of shipped panels. It sells no where near other brands though.

I agree with you that the aura of Sony has long been gone. Its good enough for PS3 and Blu Ray which are its only notable achievement since the walkman though it was a consortium that pulled it through at the end. Thats the reason I haven't bought Sony products since about 1996. Its been Samsung or Panasonic for TVs all the way.

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