Importing Speakers/AV from UK

darkavenger143

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Hello All,

I live in London and returning to India in next 3 months. I am planning to buy AV+Spk package from Richer sounds here. Probably Yamaha Rx v377+Tannoy Hts 101.

Comparison wise, it is almost one fourth price what we pay in India.

Can you suggest me best way to get it here? Can i check in the whole package in Check-in Luggage?

How to clear customs?
 
Hello All,

I live in London and returning to India in next 3 months. I am planning to buy AV+Spk package from Richer sounds here. Probably Yamaha Rx v377+Tannoy Hts 101.

Comparison wise, it is almost one fourth price what we pay in India.

Can you suggest me best way to get it here? Can i check in the whole package in Check-in Luggage?

How to clear customs?

YMMV, but based on what I now know, I wouldn't try to lug a pair of speakers purchased abroad here - there's plenty of local supply of good speakers, both used and new.

You can just remove the amp from its carton, and pack it in checked-in luggage with all accessories and manual. You can go to a red channel counter and declare it - I don't think they're even bothered about consumer electronics like AVRs these days. The assessed duty will probably be in the range of Rs.2-2.5k, and it might not even be assessed any duty if it's below the duty-free limit.

BTW, there are a zillion multi-channel HT receivers on Ritchie Street these days - it's a buyer's market. However, vintage audio is scarce, including turntables.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Though there are wide range of speakers available, not sure if they match the price and performance. Most of the local brands are made of cheap material which wont last long. Just wanted to check if anyone has carried the speakers from abroad....
 
I had a colleague who bought a pair of floorstanders with him, but they pretty much ate up his entire baggage allowance.

customs are not bothered even if you try to declare :D . the limit is 45K or so, and since all my stuff was vintage, they did not even bother.

PS: if i recall correctly, you can claim a VAT refund if you buy stuff and go out within a particular timeframe
 
How does one become member of the cheapskate society?

By being born a desi - it's intrinsic to our genes...

But jokes apart, the hankering for phoren maal was probably reinforced by bans on import of almost anything from the late '50s onwards, which reinforced the perception that local goods were inferior, and imported goods were superior. The depreciation in the Rupee from 1966 onwards would have emphasized this even further - it would have been difficult for a manufacturer of quality goods in India (say Philips India) from importing quality components and manufacturing intermediate/finished goods of the same quality as international standards. Over time, a dual-tier system would develop, and the quality of goods for local consumption under a Rupee tariff would be poor, while a separate export-quality tier which is paid for through hard-currency exports would be partly competitive for a while, before being crushed by innovations elsewhere.

Singapore and the Asian Tigers did exactly the opposite - they fostered Free Trade in everything to give competitive innovation a free hand at all levels in the manufacturing supply-chain (knowledge/designs, tools, raw materials, components, intermediate goods, finished goods, ... ). By the '80s/'90s, audio equipment that was made in Singapore was competitive with the best in the world - for instance, check out the Denon (Nippon Columbia) microcomponent systems that were manufactured in Singapore then, for export to the US and EU. The Denon UD-M5 3-CD microcomponent changer is an unbelievably complex piece of electromechanical engineering for its price point of $599 or whatever.

Similar blunders made in the '50s/'60s by Nehru/TTK are being repeated in the Nokia factory case. By eliminating a quality local manufacturer who was manufacturing about $10B+ per annum of product on a small plot of land in the boonies, using mostly local labour which doesn't have any qualifications above high-school and only speaks Tamil, the taxman and UPA II successfully managed to transfer about $10B worth from the export to the import trade-balance account. The only low-end smartphones available now are Chinese-made, cost about 2x the Nokia Ashas, and have about 25% of the durability (they will have to be replaced about 2-4x more frequently).

The tax-man must be brimming with socialistic pride at having eliminated about 125,000 direct and indirect private-sector jobs at one shot, and also creating a forex liability of ~$20B through removal of value-addition (which has just gone to China and Vietnam). Great job guys, a Bharat Ratna or similar awaits you, just like the one awarded to Nehru...

BTW, the Nokia factory on its own is worth *nothing*, zero, zilch, nada, shunya, as Essar has correctly concluded when it walked away yesterday from a tentative deal to buy it. All the value is locked up in *wetware*, i.e. brains of ex- and current employees of Nokia. It consists of knowledge of designs, software, supply-chains, markets, logistics, manufacturing, etc., most of which is now safely in the hands of Microsoft. Microsoft may mess it up further, but that's another story...
 
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Hello All,

I live in London and returning to India in next 3 months. I am planning to buy AV+Spk package from Richer sounds here. Probably Yamaha Rx v377+Tannoy Hts 101.

Comparison wise, it is almost one fourth price what we pay in India.

Can you suggest me best way to get it here? Can i check in the whole package in Check-in Luggage?

How to clear customs?

Hope you have considered the fact that you may not be eligible for warranty & denied local service also for international purchase...

You many consider getting AVR alone from UK... Don't know your budget for AVR...

For speakers, you can consider Boston Acoustics A2310 HTS package from hifimart.com once you come to India, They are reasonably priced @ 36K....
 
Well said Linuxguru....

@darkavenger: You should buy the 5.1 from the UK and also get a VAT refund at the airport...Richer sounds or Seven Oaks will both give the VAT refund form....

Try and buy the Yamaha AVR here only as that might need some warranty since the chances of an amplifer going bust are higher than the speakers....Moreover the amp would add another 20 kgs to your baggage allowance which I am sure is limited....
 
I would suggest you to buy it here in India. Both Receiver and speakers are available here itself. If you buy it there then you have to pay the shipping and customs charges. For note, customs charge is 36% for sure for all the electronics. Moreover you dont have international warranty for the receiver. Buy it here so that you will spend less amount and warranty as well.

You can buy things which is not available in india... Your receiver and speaker packages are available here also....
 
By being born a desi - it's intrinsic to our genes...

But jokes apart, the hankering for phoren maal was probably reinforced by bans on import of almost anything from the late '50s onwards, which reinforced the perception that local goods were inferior, and imported goods were superior. The depreciation in the Rupee from 1966 onwards would have emphasized this even further - it would have been difficult for a manufacturer of quality goods in India (say Philips India) from importing quality components and manufacturing intermediate/finished goods of the same quality as international standards. Over time, a dual-tier system would develop, and the quality of goods for local consumption under a Rupee tariff would be poor, while a separate export-quality tier which is paid for through hard-currency exports would be partly competitive for a while, before being crushed by innovations elsewhere.

Singapore and the Asian Tigers did exactly the opposite - they fostered Free Trade in everything to give competitive innovation a free hand at all levels in the manufacturing supply-chain (knowledge/designs, tools, raw materials, components, intermediate goods, finished goods, ... ). By the '80s/'90s, audio equipment that was made in Singapore was competitive with the best in the world - for instance, check out the Denon (Nippon Columbia) microcomponent systems that were manufactured in Singapore then, for export to the US and EU. The Denon UD-M5 3-CD microcomponent changer is an unbelievably complex piece of electromechanical engineering for its price point of $599 or whatever.

Similar blunders made in the '50s/'60s by Nehru/TTK are being repeated in the Nokia factory case. By eliminating a quality local manufacturer who was manufacturing about $10B+ per annum of product on a small plot of land in the boonies, using mostly local labour which doesn't have any qualifications above high-school and only speaks Tamil, the taxman and UPA II successfully managed to transfer about $10B worth from the export to the import trade-balance account. The only low-end smartphones available now are Chinese-made, cost about 2x the Nokia Ashas, and have about 25% of the durability (they will have to be replaced about 2-4x more frequently).

The tax-man must be brimming with socialistic pride at having eliminated about 125,000 direct and indirect private-sector jobs at one shot, and also creating a forex liability of ~$20B through removal of value-addition (which has just gone to China and Vietnam). Great job guys, a Bharat Ratna or similar awaits you, just like the one awarded to Nehru...

BTW, the Nokia factory on its own is worth *nothing*, zero, zilch, nada, shunya, as Essar has correctly concluded when it walked away yesterday from a tentative deal to buy it. All the value is locked up in *wetware*, i.e. brains of ex- and current employees of Nokia. It consists of knowledge of designs, software, supply-chains, markets, logistics, manufacturing, etc., most of which is now safely in the hands of Microsoft. Microsoft may mess it up further, but that's another story...

I say Wow...a comprehensive explanation of why people have perception about cheap products......

Have u done a good amount of research then?
 
Thanks guys for suggestions...baggage allowance wouldnt be a big problem as i have almost 130 KG allowance (45+45+45) as three of us are travelling....

The only reason why I got tempted for this deal is that I found UK to be a looooooooot cheaper when it comes to speakers.....

I do agree that there are lots of brands in india, but they are 3 to 4 times expensive than here....

I personally have used lots of local brands since my child hood days and I can clearly feel the difference between the branded vs unbranded speakers. Now neither i have lots of time to research nor take any risks...

So I want to go blindly with the market and be in peace......
 
Have u done a good amount of research then?

Regarding speakers, I too brought back a pair of brand new, boxed, commercial 3-way speakers as well as a 5-channel Sony AVR from the US over a decade ago. Admittedly, they were less expensive in the US than comparable units available in India then. However, in my case the cost of transportation was economical, since I just added to a full-container load of household goods that I was anyway bringing back. After reaching here, I found that there was an ample supply of imported speakers as well as HT receivers at reasonable prices locally in Chennai. But no regrets, since those speakers (with upgrades) are still among my favourite reference units. However, I've almost never used the 110V Sony 5-channel receiver.

If I were to do this again, I wouldn't bring back speakers or consumer-grade items, but confine myself to vintage audio items that can be hard to find locally.
 
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If I were to do this again, I wouldn't bring back speakers or consumer-grade items, but confine myself to vintage audio items that can be hard to find locally.

+1. I bought an NAD 3020 & two record players, both of which I'm sure would be incredibly hard to find locally, and I got them in much better shape than I could ever find in India, and got them for almost free :D

Since service is expensive in the UK, folks tend to dispose of vintage stuff than repair, so if you're there at the right time, you can score some amazing deals. I got my sansui SR 222 & B&W floorstanders for the grand total of 40 GBP (and the guy bought them to my house, and was willing to give further discount as he was relocating urgently)

the TT had a speed issue & the speakers had a rattle, both of which were easy fixes!
 
Thanks guys for suggestions...baggage allowance wouldnt be a big problem as i have almost 130 KG allowance (45+45+45) as three of us are travelling....

The only reason why I got tempted for this deal is that I found UK to be a looooooooot cheaper when it comes to speakers.....

I do agree that there are lots of brands in india, but they are 3 to 4 times expensive than here....

So I want to go blindly with the market and be in peace......

When you have a good baggage allowance, i think you should get it from there..
 
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