Problem with samsung blu ray player bdf-5500

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i have the same bluray player.
owning it for past 2 months.
serves all the basic purposes, but as you can see the specs it only decodes the daolby standards(DD, DDplus, DDtruehd) but doesnt decode the DTS standards, rather it provides you with bitstreaming output for the DTS.
but that doesnt matter much as my receiver decodes DTS for me.
now the problem i faced was when i played this file:
File size : 10.0 GiB
Duration : 2h 10mn
Overall bit rate : 11.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 21:41:31
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.9.0 ('On The Loose') built on Dec 9 2012 15:37:01
Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate : 9 500 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.258
Stream size : 8.46 GiB (84%)
Title : Iron.Man.3.2013


Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.38 GiB (14%)
Title : DTS-CORE 1536K ENG
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

now as you can see its a heavy file. With really high video and sound bit rates.
the problem is whenever i seek this movie forward and reverse or fast forwarding/reversing or use the jump tool
the movie freezes, sometimes the play resumes after being unresponsive for some time or the movie is interrupted and it exits to the main menu of the player. And this only happens when i fast forward/reverse the movie.
rest everything works fully fine!
IF ANYBODY IS FACING THE SAME PROBLEM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'VE FOUND ANY SOLUTION TO IT?
 
i have the same bluray player.
owning it for past 2 months.
serves all the basic purposes, but as you can see the specs it only decodes the daolby standards(DD, DDplus, DDtruehd) but doesnt decode the DTS standards, rather it provides you with bitstreaming output for the DTS.
but that doesnt matter much as my receiver decodes DTS for me.
now the problem i faced was when i played this file:
File size : 10.0 GiB
Duration : 2h 10mn
Overall bit rate : 11.0 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-02-22 21:41:31
Writing application : mkvmerge v5.9.0 ('On The Loose') built on Dec 9 2012 15:37:01
Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate : 9 500 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.258
Stream size : 8.46 GiB (84%)
Title : Iron.Man.3.2013


Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 10mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.38 GiB (14%)
Title : DTS-CORE 1536K ENG
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

now as you can see its a heavy file. With really high video and sound bit rates.
the problem is whenever i seek this movie forward and reverse or fast forwarding/reversing or use the jump tool
the movie freezes, sometimes the play resumes after being unresponsive for some time or the movie is interrupted and it exits to the main menu of the player. And this only happens when i fast forward/reverse the movie.
rest everything works fully fine!
IF ANYBODY IS FACING THE SAME PROBLEM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU'VE FOUND ANY SOLUTION TO IT?

Bump... Same issue.. Was searching all over to find how to fast forward without getting the video frozen.. Any tool to bookmark the location of of video.. Frustrating to have to forward all the way when I have to see a movie from where I left...
 
11Mbps is not high enough bitrate for blu-ray players...blu-ray players are capable of playing close to 70~80Mbps without issue..may be threr is some issue with your player...you may try adding chapter file.
 
11Mbps is not high enough bitrate for blu-ray players...blu-ray players are capable of playing close to 70~80Mbps without issue..may be threr is some issue with your player...you may try adding chapter file.

what is a chapter file? i read it a couple of times over the forums.
how to add it and whats the use?
 
Copy and paste this in txt file
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=
CHAPTER02=00:05:00.000
CHAPTER02NAME=
CHAPTER03=00:10:00.000
CHAPTER03NAME=
CHAPTER04=00:15:00.000
CHAPTER04NAME=
CHAPTER05=00:20:00.000
CHAPTER05NAME=
CHAPTER06=00:25:00.000
CHAPTER06NAME=
CHAPTER07=00:30:00.000
CHAPTER07NAME=
CHAPTER08=00:35:00.000
CHAPTER08NAME=
CHAPTER09=00:40:00.000
CHAPTER09NAME=
CHAPTER10=00:45:00.000
CHAPTER10NAME=
CHAPTER11=00:50:00.000
CHAPTER11NAME=
CHAPTER12=00:55:00.000
CHAPTER12NAME=
CHAPTER13=01:00:00.000
CHAPTER13NAME=
CHAPTER14=01:05:00.000
CHAPTER14NAME=
CHAPTER15=01:10:00.000
CHAPTER15NAME=
CHAPTER16=01:15:00.000
CHAPTER16NAME=
CHAPTER17=01:20:00.000
CHAPTER17NAME=
CHAPTER18=01:25:00.000
CHAPTER18NAME=
CHAPTER19=01:30:00.000
CHAPTER19NAME=
CHAPTER20=01:35:00.000
CHAPTER20NAME=
CHAPTER21=01:40:00.000
CHAPTER21NAME=
CHAPTER22=01:45:00.000
CHAPTER22NAME=
CHAPTER23=01:50:00.000
CHAPTER23NAME=
CHAPTER24=01:55:00.000
CHAPTER24NAME=
CHAPTER25=02:00:00.000
CHAPTER25NAME=

Now open mkvmerge-->Global tab-->export chapter file-->add this txt file.
Your blu-ray player remote should have a next chapter button like >>|...press it to go to subsequent chapter provided your blu-ray player support chapter file in mkv.
 
Copy and paste this in txt file
CHAPTER01=00:00:00.000
CHAPTER01NAME=
CHAPTER02=00:05:00.000
CHAPTER02NAME=
CHAPTER03=00:10:00.000
CHAPTER03NAME=
CHAPTER04=00:15:00.000
CHAPTER04NAME=
CHAPTER05=00:20:00.000
CHAPTER05NAME=
CHAPTER06=00:25:00.000
CHAPTER06NAME=
CHAPTER07=00:30:00.000
CHAPTER07NAME=
CHAPTER08=00:35:00.000
CHAPTER08NAME=
CHAPTER09=00:40:00.000
CHAPTER09NAME=
CHAPTER10=00:45:00.000
CHAPTER10NAME=
CHAPTER11=00:50:00.000
CHAPTER11NAME=
CHAPTER12=00:55:00.000
CHAPTER12NAME=
CHAPTER13=01:00:00.000
CHAPTER13NAME=
CHAPTER14=01:05:00.000
CHAPTER14NAME=
CHAPTER15=01:10:00.000
CHAPTER15NAME=
CHAPTER16=01:15:00.000
CHAPTER16NAME=
CHAPTER17=01:20:00.000
CHAPTER17NAME=
CHAPTER18=01:25:00.000
CHAPTER18NAME=
CHAPTER19=01:30:00.000
CHAPTER19NAME=
CHAPTER20=01:35:00.000
CHAPTER20NAME=
CHAPTER21=01:40:00.000
CHAPTER21NAME=
CHAPTER22=01:45:00.000
CHAPTER22NAME=
CHAPTER23=01:50:00.000
CHAPTER23NAME=
CHAPTER24=01:55:00.000
CHAPTER24NAME=
CHAPTER25=02:00:00.000
CHAPTER25NAME=

Now open mkvmerge-->Global tab-->export chapter file-->add this txt file.
Your blu-ray player remote should have a next chapter button like >>|...press it to go to subsequent chapter provided your blu-ray player support chapter file in mkv.


Hello...thanks for that tip...
can that be added to a already ripped mkv.. sorry...i have no clue about it...
is there any other formats that support this method?

i spoke to the samsung tech guys...

they say that in bluray players the usb option has no separate processor..its just a chip with a usb decoding option and hence the issue.. any dvd player/bluray player with usb videoplayback will not support the "seeking" option in videos.. he said the best option is to play it in the TV usb if it is available..

thanks:sad:
 
yes it can be added in existing mkv file.

First save that chapter as txt file.
Open mkvmergegui-->In Input tab add the existing mkv file-->Go to Global tab-->in chapters browse to the txt file and add it.
Now select output location and start muxing.

Please make sure that you are modifying chapter.txt file depending upon movie length--
Like for a movie of 1hr 38 mins adding upto chapter 20 will be enough..
Also for movie more than 2 hrs you can add more chapter entries..just follow this format-

CHAPTER<chapterNumber>=<chapterStartTime in hh:mm:ss.000 format>
CHAPTER<chapterNumber>NAME=<Give a name as you want>

You have to try it and check using the button |<<(previous) or >>|(next) in your remote control. I have never used samsung blu-ray players so I can't tell whether it will support this format. I have two sony blu-ray players and both support chapters in this format.
 
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Hello...thanks for that tip...
can that be added to a already ripped mkv.. sorry...i have no clue about it...
is there any other formats that support this method?

i spoke to the samsung tech guys...

they say that in bluray players the usb option has no separate processor..its just a chip with a usb decoding option and hence the issue.. any dvd player/bluray player with usb videoplayback will not support the "seeking" option in videos.. he said the best option is to play it in the TV usb if it is available..

thanks:sad:

That samsung guy doesn't know anything..generally all decoding(bluray+usb) done by one microcontroller..for usb there is one usb host controller with memory buffer which generally cache the data to be decoded by the microcontroller..in your case that buffer size may be small to seek the video via usb..I have few large files with bitrate close to 60Mbps and Sony BDP S-190 can seek it fine without issue.
 
That samsung guy doesn't know anything..generally all decoding(bluray+usb) done by one microcontroller..for usb there is one usb host controller with memory buffer which generally cache the data to be decoded by the microcontroller..in your case that buffer size may be small to seek the video via usb..I have few large files with bitrate close to 60Mbps and Sony BDP S-190 can seek it fine without issue.

Hi... May be he's bonkers... But is there a workaround? It's really bugging me.. The tv has a time search option.. May be I'll connect the tv to avr using a toslink cable and use that.. Is there a advantage of watching brrip in bdp? Os is it the same as in the tv..
 
Can you copy the file on to pen drive and play? don't put any other file apart from this. of course you will require a 16GB drive.

I was having a issue similar to you with one 6GB file on hard disk though WDTV. Rest files played fine (even bigger than 15GB)

I played the same file through pen drive and it worked flawlessly. I am clueless weather reading through fully loaded hard disk could create an issue in transfer?
 
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