Automatic Room Correction / Speaker Calibration. YPO vs Audyssey MultEQ XT

[SonomaComa]

I am in the process of choosing between the Yamaha RX-V475 and the Denon AVR-X1000. Both list for approx. $450.00. The Yamaha does have a MHL HDMI Input, the Denon does not. From what I have been reading is the Audyssey MutEQ XT will calibrate the Sub and that YPAO does not but certain versions will. What different versions of YPAO are there?
And after running the Room Calibration the Yamaha can still be fine tuned and tweaked to the users liking while the Audyssey cannot. From what I've read and experienced from my Marantz SR6007, if you are not happy with the Audyssey's calibration too bad you just have get used to it.
It seems like Yamaha has a huge faithful Fan Club that raves about their products. Is the sound quality between the two really that much different? The system will be mostly for 90% music and 10% (if that) for movies. It is going to start out as just a two channel system for now and a sub will be added down the line. But why add a sub if the receiver can't calibrate it. Some reviews say the Yamaha is better for music but it will only calibrate the low frequencies down to a certain level . Connecting iTunes devices will be used, A C.D. player will be added and streaming Pandora will be from a Roku.
For this type of setup will one room calibration have and advantage over the other? Does one really sound better than the other for music? I'm just not sure what would really be the deciding factor beings they are so closely priced.

 

[elangoas]

I have the Onkyo TX NR 818 AVR... It as Audyssey MultEQ XT32 setup which i think it excludes Sub-woofer setup...

But calibrating the AVR was the simplest i have done so far.... I had to do 8 point calibration... Before running the Audyssey, i made sure that all the AVR values against each parameter was set to minimal... I did this specifically to check what are the adjustments that the Audyssey does to the listening room...

After the setup was complete, sound was superb & spot on..... even the speaker distance, level were simply exemplary....:clapping:

My setup is 5.0.. Have bi-amped my FS using the surround back channel.....

 

[spirovious]

I can say that Audyssey MultEQ XT is much better than YPAO.Comparing them,Audyssey gives much better results in room correction.You can see actual readings ,crossover settings,ch equalisation of Audyssey in Denon and can copy them on paper.You can set it manually with desired changes later.

 

[madbullram]

If the system if for 90% music, you should be looking at getting a 2 channel amp not an HT amp. They will be anyd ay much much better than the HT amps

 

[sdurani]

I have the Onkyo TX NR 818 AVR... It as Audyssey MultEQ XT32 setup which i think it excludes Sub-woofer setup...

The Onkyo 818 does subwoofer calibration (and do an excellent job of it), but excludes Audyssey's dual-sub calibration.

 

[manoj.p]

If the system if for 90% music, you should be looking at getting a 2 channel amp not an HT amp. They will be anyd ay much much better than the HT amps

Its a misconception.

 

[elangoas]

The Onkyo 818 does subwoofer calibration (and do an excellent job of it), but excludes Audyssey's dual-sub calibration.

Thanks for the correction buddy.. I don't have a sub right now in my set up... I thought it didn't..

 

[madbullram]

Its a misconception.

Not in my case, 90% system I have auditioned in the same price range, have always proven that for a given budget a Stereo amp any day performs better in when it comes to music.The 10% was the when I listened few high-end Sony, NAD, Bryston and others. But nothing in the budget category.

If you have come across an HT in budget category that's available today which is on par compared to a similar stereo amp, please suggest, even I would love to look at it and if good would upgrade.

 

[sdurani]

No problemo elangoas. Don't know if you're aware but your receiver is considered one of THE best values in consumer electronics, especially because it has the latest surround processing (DTS Neo:X, Dolby PLIIx) and the most advanced version of Audyssey room correction (MultEQ XT32).

 

[SonomaComa]

I would like to get an AVR instead of just a 2 CH amp mainly because of all the extra connections and I would want to totally exclude myself from using it for TV. It seems like an AVR brings a little more to the party.
But now I'm trying to decide between the Yamaha RX-V675 or the Denon AVR X-2000. Here at the local Best Buy they have the Denon in the Special Magnolia Room where they claim to keep the best stuff. The Yamaha is out on the floor with everything else that starts out at about $199.00. Is that a hint that the build quality of the Yamaha is in a lower class than the Denon?

 

[jagdish_p]

I would like to get an AVR instead of just a 2 CH amp mainly because of all the extra connections and I would want to totally exclude myself from using it for TV. It seems like an AVR brings a little more to the party.
But now I'm trying to decide between the Yamaha RX-V675 or the Denon AVR X-2000. Here at the local Best Buy they have the Denon in the Special Magnolia Room where they claim to keep the best stuff. The Yamaha is out on the floor with everything else that starts out at about $199.00. Is that a hint that the build quality of the Yamaha is in a lower class than the Denon?

The general wisdom of the audiophile community favours an Amp over an AVR for 2 channel music listening for a fixed budget.

Also room calibration looses importance / is not required for a 2.1 channel set up.
All you need to do is set the crossover freq for the sub based on the L/R speakers response.

 

[elangoas]

No problemo elangoas. Don't know if you're aware but your receiver is considered one of THE best values in consumer electronics, especially because it has the latest surround processing (DTS Neo:X, Dolby PLIIx) and the most advanced version of Audyssey room correction (MultEQ XT32).

Thanks... Glad to know this is one of the best AVR in the category... Before making my purchase, i checked the specs of the AVR and it was really good... The most important thing was the Video processor in it I saw it had some very good recommendations in almost every review... Hence bought it blindly even without taking audition...

Room correction was brilliant setup.. It just took 30 mins to calibrate the speakers level & the performance has been phenomenal...

Stereo listening in Pure Audio mode is one of the best that i have heard in this AVR category so far.... Am extremely pleased & take pride in owning this AVR...:thumbsup:

 

[sdurani]

Also room calibration looses importance / is not required for a 2.1 channel set up.

What does number of speakers have to do with room correction?

 

[rbalagopalan]

Its a misconception.

Not in my case, 90% system I have auditioned in the same price range, have always proven that for a given budget a Stereo amp any day performs better in when it comes to music.The 10% was the when I listened few high-end Sony, NAD, Bryston and others. But nothing in the budget category.

If you have come across an HT in budget category that's available today which is on par compared to a similar stereo amp, please suggest, even I would love to look at it and if good would upgrade.

I concur Madbullram.

 

[jinxeddeep]

Also room calibration looses importance / is not required for a 2.1 channel set up.

What does number of speakers have to do with room correction?

@sdurani: you're spot on!

room correction does not depend on the number of speakers alone....regardless of the number of speakers the effect of a room by means of standing waves, phase cancellation etc exists...a properly done room correction can help eliminate these effects and thereby contribute to a more coherent, well imaged sonic distribution with a good sense of timing...

 

[spirovious]

A useful link-
Audyssey MultEQ FAQ and Setup Guide - Home Theater Forum and Systems - HomeTheaterShack.com