AVR help Required

[Nickhill007]

Hello All,


I am considering to buy a DENON AVR which would support a 7.1 channel system . Which one should i buy Denon x1000 or Denon x2000 ? Or any other ioptions available ?

 

[Nickhill007]

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[netant]

Hello All,


I am considering to buy a DENON AVR which would support a 7.1 channel system . Which one should i buy Denon x1000 or Denon x2000 ? Or any other ioptions available ?

X1000 is 5.1 only & doesn't have video upscaling.

 

[jagdish_p]

Hello All,


I am considering to buy a DENON AVR which would support a 7.1 channel system . Which one should i buy Denon x1000 or Denon x2000 ? Or any other ioptions available ?

You will need to provide your room size ,speaker specs , listening preferences before any one can recommend

X1000 is 5.1 only & doesn't have video upscaling.

I feel that 5.1 is more then sufficient also up scaling does not help. If the original quality of the picture is bad up scaling will not improve on it

 

[Dirac]

It is always better to future proof ourselves and go for 7.1
I think already there are blurays with 7.1 hd sound.
Regarding upscaling, it is also a goodie to have. For example one can switch of upscaling on the STB and make the denon do it . Usually the STBs have poor quality upscaling chip. Here Denon would be very helpful with its Anchor Bay upscaler chip.

 

[Nickhill007]

On enquiring about the price of these units all the dealers have offered the AVR's at MRP on the boxes. Dont they offer discounts?

 

[netant]

On enquiring about the price of these units all the dealers have offered the AVR's at MRP on the boxes. Dont they offer discounts?

yes definitely ask for discount.
dont know actuals but X1000 should cost roughly 38K and x2000 roughly 50k

you can also consider Marantz SR5007 (discontinued) which should be slightly better then x2000 in terms of features and should cost approx 42K

 

[aakashr]

never consider an AVR for video upscaling, X2000 if budget permits, else X1000.

 

[Dirac]

On enquiring about the price of these units all the dealers have offered the AVR's at MRP on the boxes. Dont they offer discounts?

Every dealer gives 12 to 15 percent discount on mrp.

 

[netant]

never consider an AVR for video upscaling,.

why not ? care to elaborate ?

 

[Nickhill007]

yes definitely ask for discount.
dont know actuals but X1000 should cost roughly 38K and x2000 roughly 50k

you can also consider Marantz SR5007 (discontinued) which should be slightly better then x2000 in terms of features and should cost approx 42K

Where can I get a deal for marantz

 

[netant]

Where can I get a deal for marantz

someone form pune would be able to help you.
I shall check with my knows in Bangalore & get back to you later.

 

[jagdish_p]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aakashr View Post
never consider an AVR for video upscaling,.

why not ? care to elaborate ?

Upscaling can be done by any of the Components in the chain ( DVD Player/STB,AVR,TV).

The latest TVs usually have a good upscaler.

See below thread
http://www.hifivision.com/surround-amplifiers-receivers/5651-upscaling-worth.html

 

[glen7x]

I am asking my friend to carry an AVR for me from the US. I initially planned on getting Pioneer VSX 822 (had a good deal in newegg) for the features it had.
But now considering Harman Kardon AVR 1610 as its quite light, 4.5 kg or so. easier for him to bring it in.
Any feedback on this AVR? It has a digital power supply, as per what i read, making the AVR lighter.

 

[Vinod.R]

I am asking my friend to carry an AVR for me from the US. I initially planned on getting Pioneer VSX 822 (had a good deal in newegg) for the features it had.
But now considering Harman Kardon AVR 160 as its quite light, 4.5 kg or so. easier for him to bring it in.
Any feedback on this AVR? It has a digital power supply, as per what i read, making the AVR lighter.

Generally speaking an AVR is judged by it's build quality and then features. Usually the heavier AVRs are said to have a better power supply (be it EL core or torroidal type etc). Older AVRs have always had better transformers, better caps etc. Digital power supply? (Search me!)

An AVR which is 4.5kgs in weight ?!? Makes it very dubious to me at least. Check out the internal images of this AVR online. Make sure it has enough number of inputs and outputs to serve your needs. It is always better to buy a better and beefier AVR (budget permitting of course) as it is something people do not change overnight and trying to make it as future proof as possible is one of the general aims of buying an AVR.

Also US AVRs run on 110v, so you will have to factor a step down too. There are enough discussions about this in different threads.

Go through different threads, see if you can get a better deal here in India itself. Even though a bit costlier, it might give you more peace of mind.

Just my thinking that is all.

Vinod

PS: If this is what you are planning, this weights 9.1 kgs excluding the packaging:

http://www.harmankardon.com/HI-IN/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=AVR 160/230

 

[glen7x]

Generally speaking an AVR is judged by it's build quality and then features. Usually the heavier AVRs are said to have a better power supply (be it EL core or torroidal type etc). Older AVRs have always had better transformers, better caps etc. Digital power supply? (Search me!)

An AVR which is 4.5kgs in weight ?!? Makes it very dubious to me at least. Check out the internal images of this AVR online. Make sure it has enough number of inputs and outputs to serve your needs. It is always better to buy a better and beefier AVR (budget permitting of course) as it is something people do not change overnight and trying to make it as future proof as possible is one of the general aims of buying an AVR.

Also US AVRs run on 110v, so you will have to factor a step down too. There are enough discussions about this in different threads.

Go through different threads, see if you can get a better deal here in India itself. Even though a bit costlier, it might give you more peace of mind.

Just my thinking that is all.

Vinod

PS: If this is what you are planning, this weights 9.1 kgs excluding the packaging:

Harman Kardon - Beautiful Sound

Thanks for your response Vinod. Yes, I was surprised by the weight too. The one you listed is the 230 V version If I am not wrong.
I have gone thru the 110 v to 220 V threads.
There is one factor thats worrying me. This is listed for NTSC TV's. I am not sure if the receiver has a HDMI pass thru or whether it does conversion on the Video signals. If it does, then I am not sure if it will work with the STBs available in India.

One thing thats in favour of this AVR is its weight, I do not want to burden the guy too much

The following pages would give us information on this.
Harman Kardon : Support - AVR 1610 - AVR 1610

AVR 1610 | 425-watt, 5.1-channel, Roku Ready, networked A/V receiver with Bluetooth and GreenEdge technology | Harman Kardon US

Amazon.com: Harman Kardon AVR 1610 5.1-Channel 85-Watt Roku Ready Networked Audio/Video Receiver: Electronics

 

[Vinod.R]

Thanks for your response Vinod. Yes, I was surprised by the weight too. The one you listed is the 230 V version If I am not wrong.
I have gone thru the 110 v to 220 V threads.
There is one factor thats worrying me. This is listed for NTSC TV's. I am not sure if the receiver has a HDMI pass thru or whether it does conversion on the Video signals. If it does, then I am not sure if it will work with the STBs available in India.

One thing thats in favour of this AVR is its weight, I do not want to burden the guy too much

The following pages would give us information on this.
Harman Kardon : Support - AVR 1610 - AVR 1610

AVR 1610 | 425-watt, 5.1-channel, Roku Ready, networked A/V receiver with Bluetooth and GreenEdge technology | Harman Kardon US

Amazon.com: Harman Kardon AVR 1610 5.1-Channel 85-Watt Roku Ready Networked Audio/Video Receiver: Electronics

Best is to download the exact manual of the AVR you are planning to buy and then check its NTSC/PAL conversion. Usually AVRs in US are NTSC only. But I think there was a discussion in some other thread about being able to adjust this in the STB (I think Videocon?) I am not sure.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page2/B00CMNZHEC_back_lg.jpg

Is this the AVR you are planning to buy, rear view wise?

 

[glen7x]

Best is to download the exact manual of the AVR you are planning to buy and then check its NTSC/PAL conversion. Usually AVRs in US are NTSC only. But I think there was a discussion in some other thread about being able to adjust this in the STB (I think Videocon?) I am not sure.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page2/B00CMNZHEC_back_lg.jpg

Is this the AVR you are planning to buy, rear view wise?

Yes, that should be. Below is the image from HK page.

http://www.harmankardon.com/images/media/AVR1610_004_dv480x480.png

 

[Vinod.R]

Just to tell you that connectivity wise you are too much shortchanged in this AVR.

Everything has to be HDMI only. A couple of optical/coaxial and you are done.

So making sure it serves your purpose is very important.

Also analogue wise you can only connect stereo. I somehow always feel safer having an 7.1 analogue in and out in my AVR, but that is just me , having component up conversion does not hurt either...

http://www.harmankardon.com/HI-IN/Products/Pages/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=AVR 160/230

Something like this makes me feel a bit safe.......check the rear connectivity.

 

[glen7x]

Just to tell you that connectivity wise you are too much shortchanged in this AVR.

Everything has to be HDMI only. A couple of optical/coaxial and you are done.

So making sure it serves your purpose is very important.

Also analogue wise you can only connect stereo. I somehow always feel safer having an 7.1 analogue in and out in my AVR, but that is just me , having component up conversion does not hurt either...

Harman Kardon - Beautiful Sound

Something like this makes me feel a bit safe.......check the rear connectivity.

It does have Analogue Video in and from what I read, it does convert the RC Video to HDMI. It missed component video in though, something which I am willing to sacrifice.