Best way to gain practical knowledge(Basic Audio Electronics)

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Hi Members,

Would like to know what is the best way to gain practical knowledge(basics only) of audio electronics. I am not from electronics background (by education) but very passionate about it. I wanted to assemble a simple stereo amp but just reading n number of articles and tutorials alone doesn't gives a clarity and confidence to work on. I have reached out few local electronics shops and asked them if they would be willing to teach me soldering and basics (of course for a 'fee') but all of them said 'can't'. Is there a good way to learn things and become a good DIYer?
 
Hi

There are a number of courses available in the many technical institutes....JetKing is one of them....dunno if still around....

There are DIY mini kits available, try playing with those first....with the internet we have today, there are ample YouTube videos to guide you....provided you are very keen to learn the trade and tricks....

All the best
 
Hi

There are a number of courses available in the many technical institutes....JetKing is one of them....dunno if still around....

There are DIY mini kits available, try playing with those first....with the internet we have today, there are ample YouTube videos to guide you....provided you are very keen to learn the trade and tricks....

All the best

Thank you, efernand.
Yes, I depend on YouTube for learning soldering skills but something is missing in learning from digital media (or by my own). on other side, for ex. in repair shops, we will have access to many working/non working audio systems (real world examples) and this would help us to learn practical stuffs. Having coming from 'teacher-student' model right from schoolings, my mind is set for such learning environment?
 
The hardest thing is to keep at it . Expect to mess up a few times. But persistence is the key, especially if you are doing it on your own.Good luck.
 
Thank you, efernand.
Yes, I depend on YouTube for learning soldering skills but something is missing in learning from digital media (or by my own). on other side, for ex. in repair shops, we will have access to many working/non working audio systems (real world examples) and this would help us to learn practical stuffs. Having coming from 'teacher-student' model right from schoolings, my mind is set for such learning environment?

I have learnt some basic things by opening any electronic that's sent to me before sending them to the technician.

I would like to share my Real life story here.

Once one forum member has requested here that does anyone know any good high end technician who can do Accuphase servicing.

Nature of complaint:
One day he was listening in his setup within few minutes left channel sound has faded and became dead.

Reason for failure:
On his scrutiny he found one table spoon was lying on the speaker terminals shorting the Hot and Cold terminals. He realised it's the handy work of his toddler.

His Actions:
So now he realised the gravity of the situation and swallowed the spine chilling reality that ACCUPHASE IS DEAD. So he called the authorised service people and got a rough estimate of around 75,000/- may be +/- 10%.

Under these circumstances only he made the above referred post in our Forum searching for technician.

My action:
I responded to his post saying that I have a reliable high end technician in my contact for which he need to send his Accuphase to me and I will get it serviced right infront of my eyes at my place.

He was not having the OE packing and didn't want to venture in packing and shipping so we fixed a convenient date for him to bring it.

So on that fixed date he brought the Amp wrapping it in a quilt and stuffed it in a suitcase.

Here comes my hidden Technician skills:

As I told earlier I decided to open it myself. So when our forum friend has finished all is morning routines and refreshing in my home, I expressed my desire to check it by my self before calling the technician and thanks to him for his confidence in me he readily accepting.

So I have opened the unit and thoroughly had a physical examination and nothing was evident. When I switched ON the unit was shutting down on Safety.

So I have pulled the Power and Signal wires from both the Power amp boards, the unit was getting ON and stable.

Now I connected the Right channel alone (which was sounding good before going dead) all the wires. Then switched ON the unit and the Amplifier was getting ON and stable. Now I gave PRE IN and speaker OUT to my trial speakers. Played the Audio the Amp was stable up and running.

After sometime of trial I had the confidence and connected B&W, yes ACCUPHASE proved it's power.

Now emboldened with this, I had removed all wires from right channel and connected all wires to left channel, when I tried to switch ON the unit was going to safety mode.

Further to be sure there is nothing gone wrong in the PRE amp section I swapped the Left & Right power boards then connected the left channel and played and it was working excellent without any glitch and the SQ is real ACCUPHASE.

Now it's time for my skills:

I had removed both the boards and started checking the values of every component (I have a good quality HIOKI multimeter) by referring the values in good working board. With in few minutes I found 2Nos. of FET in out put stage were Short circuited and dead in the non working board.

Rest all other components were sound in condition. So we contacted a electronic spares dealer in Mumbai, sent him every detail and photo of the FET to our luck the same one to one item was available. Two Nos of the put together Rs. 3,600/- (The price was almost double the US price. It's understandable)

Now I told our friend instead of wasting 3 days in Chennai, to take the unit to his town and get the new FETs soldered by his local Technician who is good in soldering etc., Which he also felt better and we got the FETs couriered directly to his address and got the new FETs soldered to the board. After following all due safety steps I asked him to hook up the system.

The ACCUPHASE was running excellent, staging and SQ was exactly as it was.

He was extremely happy to have got his ACCUPHASE up and running just for Rs.3,600/- plus his train rare / travelling expenses.

From then on I gained more confidence in handling power amps.

I wrote this story in due respect to the feelings of our forum friend who is the owner of the ACCUPHASE and I am sure he will not feel offended by this post which I mean it to be in the interest of all gadget owners with interest to learn.
 
I have learnt some basic things by opening any electronic that's sent to me before sending them to the technician.

Yes I agree sir. As well-versed DIYers here are eager to help others is it a good idea to request a workshops/classes (say, 2 day workshop) for beginners like me ? I know we may have many issues like availability, place and all but such workshops would be a real beneficial to beginners.
 
Electronics DIY is a passion and no formal training is required. Some basic understanding of electronics, soldering, etc is all that is required. My first ever project was a morse key and my second ever project was a 3 watt amplifier. Stay away from digital stuff during the beginning stages, build pure simple analogue stuff, preferably with old school components. All the very best.
 
Solder resistors on veroboard for practice. Then move on to making yourself a simple power supply ("battery eliminators," they were called in my time) -- a multi-tap transformer, 4 diodes, a choke, a capacitor and multi-pole switch. Look up the circuit online, check youtube for the basic theory. FINISH the project -- build it into a case and use it. The great pleasure of DIY is to see your project in action -- light up some LEDs or turn a fan. Best of luck!
Cheers,
~HP
 
Stay away from digital stuff during the beginning stages, build pure simple analogue stuff, preferably with old school components. All the very best.

Well said.

@OP:
I would like to add to the list of suggested items like LED running lights using 4017 counter IC, simple audio amplifier (like TDA 2030... i made lots of them for hostel mates), auto water pump cut-off upon tank full etc.. the list could go on.
Dont look at these projects from value for money or utility perspective. Just do it and enjoy the satisfaction that you will get on seeing those LEDs light up for the first time or the sound coming out first time from the tiny amp you would have just built. And then along the way, you will gain confidence to do more complicated and serious DIY stuff!
 
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Solder resistors on veroboard for practice. Then move on to making yourself a simple power supply ("battery eliminators," they were called in my time) -- a multi-tap transformer, 4 diodes, a choke, a capacitor and multi-pole switch. Look up the circuit online, check youtube for the basic theory. FINISH the project -- build it into a case and use it. The great pleasure of DIY is to see your project in action -- light up some LEDs or turn a fan. Best of luck!
Cheers,
~HP

Thanks a lot. This really guides me the best place to start. For most of the beginners like me, have no clue on how gradually we build our self to become a DIYer (let's say, a skilled person to assemble basic amp or design a crossover). From all your great replies I come to know that I must first develop soldering skills, understand basic of electronics, usage of multi meter and more importantly start with 'simple stuff'.
 
To add to what others have said, you'll need to learn some basics:

1/ how to read values of resistor, capacitors, inductors. Resistors have colour codes to identify its value and tolerance. Capacitors and inductors too have value codes.
2/ how to identify correct polarity of those components like electrolytic capacitors or diodes that have polarity, and place them correctly on the board.
3/ learn to read basic datasheet of transistors (at least to learn correct assignments of the three legs/pins so that you can place it correctly in the circuit board.
4/ same as above for chips. They have specific pin numbering so it's essential to place it correctly in the circuit board.
5/ learn to read a circuit diagram. It's not daunting.
6/ soldering skills is a must. Buy a decent soldering iron with stand, solder removing suction pump.
7/ basic tools like nose plier, wire cutter, solder paste.

Try building a basic (cheap) amplifier kit that comes with all components and board. There's lots and lots of resources online. This forum also boasts of lots of solder jocks who will be more than happy to help.

All the best in this new journey.
 
Thanks all. Its overwhelming.

On other day, our fellow member Tmr_Suresh (Maya amp) has shared the 'Getting started in Electronics - Forrest M Mims' book and it helps me a lot.

Can anyone share sites that takes me from start to finish on how to build a test power supply for a basic amp (say, gainclone LM1875) pictorially along with written instructions as to what it is being done and why we need to do it.
 
Lots of leads for OP. Hope you find them helpful.
@balagopalan, I didn't know that you could troubleshoot too. Good show. :thumbsup:
 
Thanks all. Its overwhelming.

On other day, our fellow member Tmr_Suresh (Maya amp) has shared the 'Getting started in Electronics - Forrest M Mims' book and it helps me a lot.

Can anyone share sites that takes me from start to finish on how to build a test power supply for a basic amp (say, gainclone LM1875) pictorially along with written instructions as to what it is being done and why we need to do it.

plenty of youtube videos showing how to build a basic power supply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk37Q9aeFyM

(the pcb creation part can be skipped)
 
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