Bi-wire or normal Cable for Stereo System??

nvashi

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Hi Friends,

I have the Amp (NAD), CD Player (NAD) and Speakers (B&W 683 3-way) ready at my house now to play!

But I have not yet bought cables yet. There are 4 questions and I look for answers from you.

(1). Should I use Bi-wire for speakers or a normal? Is bi-wire requred to better sound quality and stability?
(2) What type of cables are required to connect Amplifier and CD Player?
(3). For bi-wire what are the guage/size required to connect speakers?
(4) For CDP to Amp what type of wire or any particular guage is required.

I will highly appreciate your reply.

Best regards,
 
There is good thread on Biamping vs Biwiring kindly search. As per the interconnects and cables it will depend on your tastes. Some forum members had suggested that the cables available on hifimart seem to be value for money.
 
Should I use Bi-wire for speakers or a normal? Is bi-wire requred to better sound quality and stability?

Single run of wire is enough. IMO, biwiring makes very subtle difference; better save money staying single!

What type of cables are required to connect Amplifier and CD Player?

An interconnect of 0.5m or 1m length. Chord Crimson or anything budget from QED will do the trick.

For bi-wire what are the guage/size required to connect speakers?

Depends on how far the speakers are from your components.

For CDP to Amp what type of wire or any particular guage is required.

See above.

:)
 
bi-amping does makes sense.. but to be very true.. bi wiring will not make any sense.


Many times people think they hear a difference because they expect to.
 
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i also had same doubt and found this.


Q. MY SPEAKERS ARE BI-WIREABLE. SHOULD I BI-WIRE THEM?
A. Absolutely! Bi-wiring significantly reduces distortion in the cable,
providing you with a much better sounding system. With a full range cable
(i.e. one with simply one positive and one negative connector at each end),
all the frequencies travel along the whole cable. Because the bass
frequencies have significantly more energy than the mids & highs, they cause
distortion. When you bi-wire (using a 3 way speaker as an example), the
amplifier sees such a high impedance at the treble input (remember - it's
really the treble and midrange input) that only the mids & highs travel
along the treble cable. Now that there is no longer any harmful lower range
energy present in the treble cable, the mids & highs sound more open and
detailed. Even though all the frequencies travel along the bass cable, the
mids & highs don't have enough energy to modulate the bass frequencies.
 
I had a lengthy discussion with Alan of Axiom on this and I respect his findings:

"Will it sound any different if you biwire? Some users think it does, but I've never heard any differences, nor have any of our laboratory measurements or scientifically controlled double blind listening tests ever demonstrated there are audible differences."

Tips: Biwiring And Biamping - Axiom Audio

Even our blind test, when in college never showed any difference!
 
Use a good quality 12 AWG wire or better when not bi-wiring and use the same cable to short the +ve and -ve binding posts instead of the metal links.

Dynaudio is one company who don't believe in bi-amping/ bi-wiring and they don't provide that option in their products.

@nvashi
BTW nice stereo system. Congrats. I saw on the other thread you got NAD C356BEE Amp, NAD C545BEE CDP and B&W 683 Floors :clapping:
 
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Any audio enthusiastic person will do any trick if he senses even a little insignificant improvement.
 

+1 to the article especially the cable lie, bi-wiring lie and golden ear lie.

Recently I have spent money on buying the so called speaker cables which do something special to the audio signal flowing through them. Special dielectric which bounces back the signal, cryogenics which makes your speaker cable some kind of superconductor at room temperature and other technology that can shame modern day physicists. They sound the same as a home constructed 12AWG cable. Remember that the best that a cable can do is to be neutral. However you will find people saying that a particular cable improves the mid, makes the sound sweet, and attribute other musical adjectives. I agree that it is impossible for a cable to have zero capacitance and zero inductance. But these can be minimized by having the cable unzipped (have air as dielectric) and without any winding in its path from the amp to the speaker. At normal speaker cable length the capacitance will be in few pico farads and will have no perceptible effect.

Other than aesthetics, self satisfaction and psycho-acoustics, these cables serve no purpose. But I am still keeping my ears (and mind) open for the day when I hear a difference between a good thick copper wire and an exotic cable.

As far as interconnects are concerned, they can make a difference by having better noise shielding and better conductivity per meter of cable. The voltage levels from Turntable cartridge, most audio sources are quite less and it makes sense to have shorter, better shielded and thick copper/silver cables.

Biwiring in speaker can reduce the DC resistance by half. But in the path, the speaker, the crossover has the biggest impedance (> 4ohms or > 8 ohms). By reducing the resistance by few milli ohms, the portion of circuit from the amp to the speaker terminal, overall impedance of this series circuit will hardly change. Even in interconnects, where input impedance is in the order of kilo ohms or mega ohms, having the wires, rca plugs of silver will not make any difference.

EDIT: Need to also add about the connector lie. I am sure connectors like the WBT, Eichmann bullet plug will make no difference other than making your wallet lighter. I will make my comments when I receive my mogami cable with Eichman bullet plug. I have so far made connections with bare wire, spade, banana plugs, siltech connectors on my cadence setup with absolutely no perceivable difference between any of the methods. There is also a fancy explanation of eddy currents being the culprit which spoils your audio when you use a RCA plug with round collar :eek:. If this is not enough, Cardas even goes to the extent of using the golden ratio for the rational behind cardas cables.
 
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