New Receiver Advice Needed

[moodyda]

I am in the market for a new Receiver and looking for some advice. My current Pioneer SC25 died and need to replace it. It was a band-aid from my old B&K days. Now that the kids are older and I can "crank it up" again (not that the Pioneer was a slouch) but I am trying to maximize my old equipment with current technology.
I currently run a 5.1 set-up in a challenging room that has vaulted ceilings that opens up to the kitchen. My speaker line-up is; Sonus Faber Grand Piano front 3 (6ohm), Klipsch dipoles (8ohm), and a huge SVS pb-12 plus2 subwoofer. Using a 60"LG plasma, sony Blueray, apple tv, direct tv hd dvr, sony ps 3, and a wii. Still have a B&K AV5000 series II amp that runs 125 X 5 (and that is conservative) that should be sufficient to run my 5.1 set-up better than most on board amps at my price point. Also, if needed to power a separate zone I have an Adcom GFA 535 that should handle any of that if necessary.
Based on the equipment that I posses what recommendations are out there?
I have been somewhat swayed to either the Denon x4000 and use the B&K as the main amp and use the Denon for the Zones 2&3. Or perhaps go with a Marantz 7008 and possibly let it do everything.
I am somewhat limited to what I can get as I have $1,000 Best Buy dollars for my failing Pioneer SC25 (replacement warranty), so it would best to go through them, naturally. I have not mentioned the Pioneers or Yamaha's because I have been persuaded that the equalization by Audyssey is superior especially the XT32 version (and I need help with Bass management with this system) and Onkyo due to the HDMI situation. I have also been persuaded away from separates due to diminishing returns.

I have a thread on AVS forums but still in need of advice.

Thanks

 

[jagdish_p]

The only comment I have is that the Yamaha YPAO is as good as Denon Audyessy and should not be the reason for discarding Yamahas.

Also Marantz are good for music.

 

[007india]

You may consider to check ONKYO 515 or any system that has the following

- 120+Watts per channel @ 8ohm
- Dual HDMI out
- USB & LAN port
- Airplay or WIDI (ability to transmit videos wirelessly without use of dongles)
- Video upscaling or upconversiont o 1080i
- Enough Sound DSPs
- Zone2
- Ability to Bi-amp

You may PM me for specific details.

I am in the market for a new Receiver and looking for some advice. My current Pioneer SC25 died and need to replace it. It was a band-aid from my old B&K days. Now that the kids are older and I can "crank it up" again (not that the Pioneer was a slouch) but I am trying to maximize my old equipment with current technology.
I currently run a 5.1 set-up in a challenging room that has vaulted ceilings that opens up to the kitchen. My speaker line-up is; Sonus Faber Grand Piano front 3 (6ohm), Klipsch dipoles (8ohm), and a huge SVS pb-12 plus2 subwoofer. Using a 60"LG plasma, sony Blueray, apple tv, direct tv hd dvr, sony ps 3, and a wii. Still have a B&K AV5000 series II amp that runs 125 X 5 (and that is conservative) that should be sufficient to run my 5.1 set-up better than most on board amps at my price point. Also, if needed to power a separate zone I have an Adcom GFA 535 that should handle any of that if necessary.
Based on the equipment that I posses what recommendations are out there?
I have been somewhat swayed to either the Denon x4000 and use the B&K as the main amp and use the Denon for the Zones 2&3. Or perhaps go with a Marantz 7008 and possibly let it do everything.
I am somewhat limited to what I can get as I have $1,000 Best Buy dollars for my failing Pioneer SC25 (replacement warranty), so it would best to go through them, naturally. I have not mentioned the Pioneers or Yamaha's because I have been persuaded that the equalization by Audyssey is superior especially the XT32 version (and I need help with Bass management with this system) and Onkyo due to the HDMI situation. I have also been persuaded away from separates due to diminishing returns.

I have a thread on AVS forums but still in need of advice.

Thanks

 

[sl4y3r]

Do ensure 1 thing, that the receiver you choose has pre outs so that you can use the B&K amp if you ever wanted to do so.

The onkyo 515 does not.

 

[007india]

Do ensure 1 thing, that the receiver you choose has pre outs so that you can use the B&K amp if you ever wanted to do so.

The onkyo 515 does not.

Please clarify which pre-out is not there. ONKYO 515 rear pinout is in below link. It has got both line out and pre-out.
http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/13/txnr515_re_300.jpg

Anyway I gave this model as reference only.

Also hooking up many systems in AVR increases the electrical risk. There are lot of posts where a spike in DTH STB has burned the entire setup including TV inspite of heaby protection.

 

[sl4y3r]

Please clarify which pre-out is not there. ONKYO 515 rear pinout is in below link. It has got both line out and pre-out.
http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/13/txnr515_re_300.jpg

Anyway I gave this model as reference only.

My friend I just cautioned the OP. There was no hard feelings intended for you.

That AVR has Sub Pre-out and not discrete channel wise pre-out that the OP would require if he wishes to connect an external amp to his 5.1 setup.

 

[moodyda]

The only comment I have is that the Yamaha YPAO is as good as Denon Audyessy and should not be the reason for discarding Yamahas.

Also Marantz are good for music.

Which Yamaha would you recommend for me?

 

[moodyda]

Just wondering, is there any on board eq'ing that compares to Audyssey XT32 by Pioneers or Yamaha

 

[shanmune]

Since you already own a 5 channel amp, no AV receiver can come close to the actual power rating (when all the 5 channels are run) except for a couple of top end/reference models. I think the best solution for you would be to go for a seperate pre-processor and Marantz AV7701 can be the right one for you. Though it costs around $1600, it is worth to have that along with your existing amp. Nothing (I mean most of the AV receivers) can beat this combination.
I guess you might get holiday discounts as well for AV7701. Also, it has one of the best room corrections as well.

If I already own a dedicated 5 channel amp, I will never go for a AV receiver.

 

[moodyda]

While I do like the Marantz 7701 due to its lack of XT32 room correction I have been persuaded away from that unit. I will say that when I have used my B&K separate as the amp with my Pioneer sc 25 I did not hear a significant sonic difference.