Sub for music listening...

zoso02

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Hi,

I have a 2 channel set up...CA 840C amp and Monitor Audio RX6 speakers. With certain types of music I feel the need for a sub. Any suggestions for a subwoofer for less than 35K. I will be using this purely for music listening and looking for a sub that will be tight...punchy and musical. Preferable an 8" or 10".

Thanks...
 
From my experience, finding a musical sub and then pairing it with bookshelf speakers for music listening is a daunting task. Plus, purists will sneer at your decision to add a sub-woofer to a stereo setup. Not that it should matter. So, before you purchase a sub, have you exhausted all other options such as speaker placements, room acoustics etc?

REL sub-woofers are regarded by many as being the best for tight, punchy and musical reproduction. However, I'm not sure what you can find in your budget.
 
Thanks...

The RX6 are floor standers and for most music I would not need to use the sub. I am getting a good deal on a REL Q150E (pre owned)...I believe it's an 8 inch driver. Anyone has experience with it? Do you guys think it would match with my set up? The room size if not big so not looking for a big and boomy sub anyways...just a little extra punch at times.
 
the REL150s were more of HT subs than Music subs (ST series) they are still pretty good if you use their High level ins (Speaker level). integration is not easy..but once you do it is worth it as it augments the natural roll of of tbhe main speaker.
The key with subs to to get quality bass than quantity ;)
 
Thanks...

The RX6 are floor standers and for most music I would not need to use the sub. I am getting a good deal on a REL Q150E (pre owned)...I believe it's an 8 inch driver. Anyone has experience with it? Do you guys think it would match with my set up? The room size if not big so not looking for a big and boomy sub anyways...just a little extra punch at times.

Dear zoso02,

Try the Wharfedale Diamond 9 series SW 150.. a 10 inch 150 Watt sub with Kevlar cone.

It is the winner of a WhatHIFI magazine best subwoofer in its class award

The light/tight Kevlar makes it very very fast and it is ideal for people who hate Booming bass.

In fact, when listening to Lightning and Thunder or cannon ball blasts, the rapid start/stop of the tight cone makes for lovely accuracy.

It has speaker level inputs too.. so, you can connect from the amp direct if you dont have a pre/power setup.

All this for less than 20K INR

I should know as I have one of this for the past 6 years..

Yours,

Subcenter2009
 
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You might get the bass you desire by simply changing to an amp to one that has better drive. Subs are definitely not the first option.
 
Thanks everyone...

Arj, what exactly is integration and how would I go about doing it? Sorry not much experience with this.

Subcenter & Gowrish...I will audition your suggestions

Reignofchaos...which amp are u suggesting?
 
Reignofchaos...which amp are u suggesting?

That will depend on your budget for a new amp. Here too, the idea is the same as what arj mentioned. The quality has to be much better than quantity. Post your budget for a new amp.
 
Thanks everyone...

Arj, what exactly is integration and how would I go about doing it? Sorry not much experience with this.

Subcenter & Gowrish...I will audition your suggestions

Reignofchaos...which amp are u suggesting?

there are primarily 4 parameters to take care of
1. positioning : where in the room will the room lock in to the room
2 Phase: depending on the position from the speaker the phase has to be set.
3 Crossover: at which crossover setting does the sub add on to the speaker and help it cover a larger range rather than interfering with it
4 sub amplifier level. the sub should not be heard.but missed when switched of...most folks hate subs in audio because they have only heard it pump up the volume and not augment the speakers


to find
First increase the sub volume pretty high so it is clear
1: put the sub in your seating position and play a piece with bass. walk around the room till you hit a place where the sound is the loudest. that is where you place the sub..9 times out of 10 it is a corner
2: with the sub in place listen from your listening point in both phase positions ..use the one where the sub appears louder. please also try playing with the angle of the sub vis a vis the walls..it may sound better at a different position
3: 3 and 4 are complementary..but keeping the sub volume just below the volume of the speakers, reduce the crossover to minimum and keep increasing it till at a point the midrange cleans up. this is the crossover point. in many subs it is a 10dB point of the speaker..but need not be so

4: now change the volume so that you just hear it..and if you switch it off you miss it.


the above is easier said than done. have a friend to make it faster/easier... it took me 3 weeks of around 5 hours per week to get it right :sad: ..but when you do, its worth it
 
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