Advice and interest check for a Nano Stereo Amplifier built for beginners.

Re: Advice and interest check for a Nano Stereo Amplifier build for beginners.

I have decided to build LM 3886 Amplifier.

Ordered PCB from an E-bay seller. Price per PCB is Rs.33/- + Rs.40 Postage. I have ordered 4 PCBs and the total cost comes to Rs.132 + Rs.55 Postage. Hence, the cost of one PCB comes to Rs.46.75

A component list (for two boards) has been prepared based on the data sheet provided by the PCB seller and the advise/suggestions received from our omishra, as under:-

1 1K Ohm Resistor 1/4 Watt MFR 1% 4 Nos.
2 33 K Ohm Resistor 1/4 Watt MFR 1% 10 Nos.
3 10 Om Resistor 5 Watt (or 10 Ohm Carbon Composition or Wire Wound) 2 Nos.
4 2.2 uf 63 V Metal Film Capacitor 2 Nos.
5 220pf - 160 V Polyster Capacitor 2 Nos.
6 22 uf - 40 V Electrolytic Capacitor 2 Nos.
7 47 pF - 16 V Silver Mica/Polyster Capacitor 2 Nos.
8 100 uf - 40 V Electrolytic 2 Nos.
9 100 nf 100 V PP or Polyeter 4 Nos.
10 220 uF, 40 V - Electrolytic 4 Nos.
11 LM 3886 IC 2 Nos.

Tomorrow I am going to Lamington Road to procure these components. Pointers requested from our Mumbai members, from which shop I will be able to get these components.

I have reqested omishra to provide details for Power Supply, Volume control etc. for this amp.

Next step is to get/build a decent looking cabinet for this amplifier. Suggestions/Advise requested from FMs for a low cost solution.

Regards,
Suresh

Dear Suresh,

Please post the progress in your DIY venture and I request you to kindly post some pictures of the amp.

Thanking you,

pksnathan
 
I would like to build a good quality but low cost amplifier as a beginning and seek advise and suggestions from our experienced forum members to proceed further in this regard. If other forum members are interested we can also go in for a Group Buy for components, cabinet etc.

First advice is required for finalizing a suitable schematic for this amplifier build. Some LM 3886/LM 4766 based amplifer PCB/Kit is available in Eby India.

2 x LM3886 68Watt IC + PCB + DIY Kit Components (Two Economical Sets) | eBay

PCB for LM3886 68W RMS amplifier IC | eBay
LM4766 40+40W RMS amplifier IC with PCB | eBay

Some kits are available fom Vegakits, Mumbai also:

Catalogue

How good are these amplifers?
Very good initiative. I don't know about Vega kits but having made and listened to LM3886 based Mauro Penasa amp earlier by sourcing the kits from Linuxguru, I can vouch for its SQ. The best part is, it is not very difficult to make. I intend to make one for a friend of mine and I'm keen to join a group buy.

After finalzing the schematic, advise on power supply, cabinet etc are also required.

Looking forward for experts advise /suggestions and also beginners interest in this project.

The objective of this exercise is to mate it to a B1 or SSP preamp and keep the overall cost within 6-7K and we would have a winner in our hands which would take the socks off the budget amps like Norge and give the likes of NAD, Marnatz and Cambridge Audio a run for the money.

Our FM Raghunath has established a link for producing low cost cabinets in the range of 1k or thereabouts but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) is 10. If 10 members can join in, we can make this happen.

LETS DO IT.:yahoo:
 
Our FM Raghunath has established a link for producing low cost cabinets in the range of 1k or thereabouts but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) is 10. If 10 members can join in, we can make this happen.

LETS DO IT.:yahoo:[/QUOTE]


Good news. I am interested in 1 cabinet and if more members are interested, we can request Raghnath to take up the matter further.

Is there any photo of this cabinet available ????

Best wishes,

Suresh
 
Very good initiative. I don't know about Vega kits but having made and listened to LM3886 based Mauro Penasa amp earlier by sourcing the kits from Linuxguru, I can vouch for its SQ. The best part is, it is not very difficult to make. I intend to make one for a friend of mine and I'm keen to join a group buy.

I'd contacted Linuxguru regarding availability of kits and he still has a few left but the prices have gone up its 2.5k/mono std. and 4.5k/mono prem. BUT kits dont include 4 PSU caps and LM3886TF :sad: add to that the cost of trafo, switches, heatsinks, cabinet etc


The objective of this exercise is to mate it to a B1 or SSP preamp and keep the overall cost within 6-7K and we would have a winner in our hands which would take the socks off the budget amps like Norge and give the likes of NAD, Marnatz and Cambridge Audio a run for the money.


It'll be incredible if we could achieve this target.

As, I also looked at offerings from Audio sector, chipamp but then is it worth spending more money on amp than the cost of speakers [wharf 9.1 ~ 11k] it'll be driving ? and I've no plans to upgrade speakers anytime soon.


Our FM Raghunath has established a link for producing low cost cabinets in the range of 1k or thereabouts but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) is 10. If 10 members can join in, we can make this happen.

LETS DO IT.:yahoo:


Good news. I am interested in 1 cabinet and if more members are interested, we can request Raghnath to take up the matter further.

Is there any photo of this cabinet available ????

Best wishes,

Suresh


I'm in, LETS DO IT :yahoo:
 
Our FM Raghunath has established a link for producing low cost cabinets in the range of 1k or thereabouts but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) is 10. If 10 members can join in, we can make this happen.

More details please!does it include heatsinks?
IIRC,the B1 cabinet itself cost ~3.5K right?
the lm3886 wont need big cabinets or huge heatsinks,but nothing brings more joy that a big beefy looking amp right?
I too am looking for a cabinet,one for a MYREF,another for a pass F5,but the cheapest ive been quoted is ~10k(cab+machining+heatsinks-for the F5) and in both cases,the cabinet will cost more than half the total cost of all the parts for the amps.So,running the F5 open to air,for now.
 
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Our FM Raghunath has established a link for producing low cost cabinets in the range of 1k or thereabouts but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) is 10. If 10 members can join in, we can make this happen.

LETS DO IT.:yahoo:

Hi Capt,
I think there is a misunderstanding regarding cab cost.I think he was trying to keep cost within 2.5k including volume knob,feet,IEC socket and wooden faceplate.I can vouch for his cab quality though.Fit and finish is also excellent.

Regards,
Sachin
 
A real noob question.

LM3886/LM4766 based kits - Are they headphone amp/power amp/integrated amp/pre amp kits?

Is a single kit sufficient for both channels or two kits are required?
 
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Its an amp alright but,not a diy kit.so,dropped.
 
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Oh no. F5 is for my elder brother.Im building a MYREF though.
I just thought the tp20,because i heard it today,and liked it(a very bad habit at that),and i thought it met the needs of the topic.
 
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Oh no. F5 is for my elder brother.Im building a MYREF

Did you buy them as kits ? If yes, from where and the total damages please.

I just thought the tp20,because i heard it today,and liked it(a very bad habit at that),and i thought it met the needs of the topic.

It sure is a great little amp, heard TP20 once at a Gurgaon hi-fi meet with Marantz SACD player and B&W's nautilus 801's - sounded pretty good for a puny 4k/- inr amp !
 
A clarification and update: The MyRefs are monoblocks, so the cost for 2x units includes some circuitry that is replicated across both boards: The rectifiers, PSU filter caps, snubbers, chipamp bypass caps, speaker DC offset protection circuitry, speaker relay, opamp supply and regulator, etc. Together, the replicated circuitry accounts for about 75% or more of the board area of the MyRef. The advantage of this setup is that this gives very good channel separation and isolation between the two channels.

For more price-sensitive and space-constrained applications, I have designed and built another LM3886-based nested topology called the MiniRef 3886. This contains two channels on one board, and many of the expensive components are shared across *both* channels. This saves space as well as cost, and the MiniRef is a stereo board on one PCB which is about 25% larger than a single channel of a MyRef.

The current status of MiniRef is that the first prototype works and is under testing and evaluation for audible sonics. In simulation, it is comparable to a MyRef on most performance parameters, although the topology differs from the MyRef in several ways. Some minor tweaks may have to be done to fine-tune stability and/or sonics.

Those who want something that is proven and works/sounds great out of the box should stick with MyRef Rev C/E/FE monoblock kits. However, those who're willing to experiment and tweak a new design which is potentially comparable to a MyRef, but at a significantly lower cost for 2 channels, should consider the MiniRef 3886. The MiniRef also allows opamp rolling, so future opamp upgrades are possible. The MiniRef also shares about 90% or more of its parts with the MyRef, so there will not be any shortage or difficulty in obtaining most parts for the foreseeable future.

I have a few MiniRef bare boards as well as parts sets available - PM me if you're interested in prototyping/tweaking the MiniRef for use as a low-cost alternative audiophile-grade chipamp board.
 
Sorry guys, my Modem conked off and am browsing from my mob and hence replying late.
Is there any photo of this cabinet available ????
IIRC, Sachu888 had posted the pics of the cabinet in the B1 thread. Why don't you PM Raghunath? You'd be able to get all the details.
It'll be incredible if we could achieve this target.

As, I also looked at offerings from Audio sector, chipamp but then is it worth spending more money on amp than the cost of speakers [wharf 9.1 ~ 11k] it'll be driving ? and I've no plans to upgrade speakers anytime soon.

No clue capt., you're supposed to be guiding us lesser mortals.
IMHO the leading lights on DIY front on HFV are Omishra and Sachu888. :)
More details please!does it include heatsinks?
IIRC,the B1 cabinet itself cost ~3.5K right?
the lm3886 wont need big cabinets or huge heatsinks,but nothing brings more joy that a big beefy looking amp right?
Hope you got the answer from Sachu888's post.
I think there is a misunderstanding regarding cab cost. I think he was trying to keep cost within 2.5k including volume knob,feet, IEC socket and wooden faceplate. I can vouch for his cab quality though.Fit and finish is also excellent.
The pricing indicated by me is for bare cabinet.
 
~~~edit~~~ beaten to it.
I purchased all the parts myself-partly,because,well i thought it would be cheaper(it is NOT,Siva's deal works out better+no pain of ordering parts) and partly because i have stock of a lot of the parts.total price-for me(including the pcb+parts+Big caps+fixtures)-14K.
not including 3886 or the transformer which i have.
i still need a cab,so add say another 5-6k for it if i were to go for a good looking one.and if i were to box it up,i would get a toroid,say 3k more.

Hope you got the answer from Sachu888's post.

The pricing indicated by me is for bare cabinet.
sure did!
 
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