Boston Acoustics with Norge 2060

[syed_rizvi]

Dear FMs,

I have recently brought Norge 2060 Amp from Norge Showroom in Mahim. I was looking to pair it up with some decent speakers and was thinking about Boston Acoustics A 26 since it has very good reviews.

So can anybody suggest me on the performance of the combination ? How would these speakers go with Norge 2060. Any help and guidance would be of great help and much appreciated.

Best Regards,
Syed

 

[grunthos]

You have identified good beginner equipment
The Boston Acoustics showroom is MZ Audio in Bandra, just across the Mahim Causeway at the start of SV Road (next to the big mosque)

You can call ahead, take an appointment and bring your amplifier with you to listen to the Boston A26s. They are nice to deal with and will let you hear your music collection in peace
Whether you will like the sound combination - no one else can decide that for you. So go ahead and book yourself an audition

For the same price range (<25k) there is Tannoy Mercury V1 bookshelves, the Dali Zensor 1s and Wharfedale Diamond 10.1s (and possible Q Acoustics 2020 if you bargain hard)
~I am sure there are others as well, but these come to mind immediately

Since the Norge is somewhat manageable weight, you can carry it around to individual dealers and see which among these sound the best before deciding
~Auditioning can be very pleasurable

 

[z@m]

Just out of curiousity...why is the 2060 referred to as beginner equipment?

I also own this amp and would like to know the forum's thoughts on what 'advanced' equipment provides that starter equipment doesn't so that I know what to look out for when scouting for an upgrade.

Thanks.

 

[hemantwaghe]

Just out of curiousity...why is the 2060 referred to as beginner equipment?

I also own this amp and would like to know the forum's thoughts on what 'advanced' equipment provides that starter equipment doesn't so that I know what to look out for when scouting for an upgrade.

Thanks.

Before asking what is advanced why not explore the forum and try to understand ?


By the way here on forum there are members ( not me) who spent lacks of rupees on power cables -even there is someone who have dedicated power line for audio equipment .....

 

[vardesh]

@syed rizvi:

You can check speakers review on this forum.Demo will be very good if you have with Norge 2060.I am also looking forward for same.

 

[syed_rizvi]

Dear FMs,

Thanks so much for the input. I took 2 auditions today as follows :-

1. I visited Alliance 4 with my Norge 2060 and met Mr. Kadam. He is an extremely good person and patiently configured my amp with Warfedale Diamond 10.2. I was obviously blown away by the sound (Jagjit Singh CD) on his local CD player. Though I wasn't very impressed with the performance when I played my MP3s from the mobile. MP3s are anyways not that good quality wise. Nevertheless, I was impressed by the overall performance. I request Mr/ Kadam to give me a day to take a call, cost being a vital factor (30k for 10.2).

2. At around the same time, I saw grunthos suggestion on taking A 26 demo. I immediately called up Mr Arshad. He invited me for a demo post lunch today. So I reached there at around afternoon time with my amp. As grunthos said, both Mr Arshad and Mr Sajid (the technician I guess) were quite hospitable. They first played AR Rehman (CD) on A26 paied with Marantaz 5004. I was again spell bound. What crazy sound that combination was producing. Then Mr. Sajid configured my amp with A26. The CD were again playing just great, thought not as good as Marantz (It could be psychological too). When I played my MP3s from mobile, they again sounded quite good, obviously not as good as when paired with Marantz but somehow I found them better than Wharfdale 10.2.

So I made a deal on A 26. I'll be transferring the amount tonight and should be getting the delivery tomorrow.

Thanks all the FMs for all your help. Special thanks to gunthos on timely help and Vardesh in being with me throughout the research

You guys rock !

~Syed

 

[z@m]

Before asking what is advanced why not explore the forum and try to understand ?


By the way here on forum there are members ( not me) who spent lacks of rupees on power cables -even there is someone who have dedicated power line for audio equipment .....

Actually that was not my question, as you suggest.

I *have* spent considerable time reading through the forum but haven't really come across an explanation as to what makes a 2060 (or any entry level amp for that matter) starter stuff. In other words, how does it differ from more advanced equipment. Obviously, one major difference is price but surely that can't be the only parameter.

I ask only to learn how to distinguish; what to look out for, when evaluating more serious gear.

Cheers.

 

[vardesh]

@syed rizvi: Happy to know about your favorable purchase .Good to know about new compatible speaker with Norge 2060.


Happy Listening .

 

[Nero9]

Dear FMs,

Thanks so much for the input. I took 2 auditions today as follows :-

1. I visited Alliance 4 with my Norge 2060 and met Mr. Kadam. He is an extremely good person and patiently configured my amp with Warfedale Diamond 10.2. I was obviously blown away by the sound (Jagjit Singh CD) on his local CD player. Though I wasn't very impressed with the performance when I played my MP3s from the mobile. MP3s are anyways not that good quality wise. Nevertheless, I was impressed by the overall performance. I request Mr/ Kadam to give me a day to take a call, cost being a vital factor (30k for 10.2).

2. At around the same time, I saw grunthos suggestion on taking A 26 demo. I immediately called up Mr Arshad. He invited me for a demo post lunch today. So I reached there at around afternoon time with my amp. As grunthos said, both Mr Arshad and Mr Sajid (the technician I guess) were quite hospitable. They first played AR Rehman (CD) on A26 paied with Marantaz 5004. I was again spell bound. What crazy sound that combination was producing. Then Mr. Sajid configured my amp with A26. The CD were again playing just great, thought not as good as Marantz (It could be psychological too). When I played my MP3s from mobile, they again sounded quite good, obviously not as good as when paired with Marantz but somehow I found them better than Wharfdale 10.2.

So I made a deal on A 26. I'll be transferring the amount tonight and should be getting the delivery tomorrow.

Thanks all the FMs for all your help. Special thanks to gunthos on timely help and Vardesh in being with me throughout the research

You guys rock !

~Syed

excellent choice mate. don't forget to post the pics and a small review when they home. enjoy:clapping:

 

[sachin_k5]

Just out of curiousity...why is the 2060 referred to as beginner equipment?

I also own this amp and would like to know the forum's thoughts on what 'advanced' equipment provides that starter equipment doesn't so that I know what to look out for when scouting for an upgrade.

Thanks.

The Norge 2060 has a toroidal transformer and simple build if you ever open it. It is built for a certain price point using ST transistors which are also not high end.

I always wondered why they never put in some 'basic upgrades' like brushed aluminium, remote controls, led indicators, removable power cords. These would have not added to the sound quality but would have increased the price.

Based on reviews, you can safely assume that Norge 2060 will sound the same as a 25K imported amp. If you want something better then you are looking at the 25K + bracket. As starters, better amps will have increased instrument separation, some instruments that are faint may be heard more clearly, the clarity of instruments themselves increases, basic upgrades as I mentioned above and all of these at a higher volume without distortion.

To add, Not all CDs are stamped properly so for demos always carry your own good CD.

For now keep the Norge for a few years, save up 30K plus and we will help..

 

[z@m]

Thanks for that. I have a Super Simple Preamp that's waiting to make its way into my 2060. That should help bide time until an upgrade.

 

[rohitmusic]

Congrats to the OP for a nice pair of gear! Hope you have many happy hours of listening pleasure and welcome to this wonderful world of music enjoyment!

Just out of curiousity...why is the 2060 referred to as beginner equipment?

I also own this amp and would like to know the forum's thoughts on what 'advanced' equipment provides that starter equipment doesn't so that I know what to look out for when scouting for an upgrade.

Thanks.

Hello Dear,
Greetings!

IMHO, the whole notion of "beginner" or "advanced" is very abstract. It could be categorized such in one of many ways like:
1. Price
2. Performance
3. Aesthetics (looks/finish) and so on

I have had the opportunity to hear gear that may look "cheap" but sounds like a million $ and the reverse as well.

Added to that a layer of personal taste. Something like sounds like a million $ to one person may sound not to the liking of some other person. And this is where things start getting fuzzy I mean really really fuzzy..
Its the same thing like your favorite color.. your favorite food.. and your favorite music taste...

So this is the part that could be part fiction and part reality.

Having said this there is actually truth in various performance levels of equipment. Certain design decisions allow sound to be reproduced in more desirable ways. Then there is quality of components which *may* enhance the performance/shelf-life of the product.

I really like the idea that "A well designed audio equipment will sound good even 15 years from now" because it just sounds good..! Its as simple as that.

Now to the actual improvements that can be achieved with "better" made/engineered/designed/equipped gear as per my experience:
1. Reduced noise floor (less grainy/more clean so as to say. negligible sound when no music playing)
2. Improved overall resolution of music (better highs/mids/lows)
3. better "transparency"
4. improved sound stage/placement of instruments/artists
5. more accurate timbre of sounds. tabla sound like real table and guitar like real guitar
6. power that drives speakers better (higher power not always = better/I have heard very low powered amps sometimes sound better)
7. etc,etc,etc..

You might be wondering why I took this long route to and why not post these points upfront.

That is because - it takes some time to understand and gradually develop the taste to truly appreciate these parameters. If on the first day we hear a 40K amp and a 1.5K amp there is every chance that we will find them both to be okay. But an experience ear can clearly make out the differences between the two (assuming they both are well engineered/etc and on a level playing field)

What this means is the Norge 2060 is a superb amp that will do all the things right. Whether you want more refinement is the call we have to individually make (and there is really no limit and end to that wish! Just look at the for sale and wanted thread and you know )

I thing the best system for you is the one that makes you enjoy the music for hours without you bothering about fiddling with the system anymore.

The ultimate upgrade is of the cable in our brains!

Wishing you happy listening!
Thanks and Cheers!

 

[hseplak]

Dear FMs,

Thanks so much for the input. I took 2 auditions today as follows :-

1. I visited Alliance 4 with my Norge 2060 and met Mr. Kadam. He is an extremely good person and patiently configured my amp with Warfedale Diamond 10.2. I was obviously blown away by the sound (Jagjit Singh CD) on his local CD player. Though I wasn't very impressed with the performance when I played my MP3s from the mobile. MP3s are anyways not that good quality wise. Nevertheless, I was impressed by the overall performance. I request Mr/ Kadam to give me a day to take a call, cost being a vital factor (30k for 10.2).
~Syed

Thank god you didn't go for the wharf-2060 combo!! I once had that combo and twice the 2060 blew the tweeters of the 10.2s, have also the post /query for the same on the forum, later I paired the norge with sony hifi speakers which I got from a fellow fm and got a Marantz pm 6004 amp for the wharfedales 10.2, both combos are happy now at their respective places:lol:.Sorry did not see your post earlier otherwise would have warned you.
Meanwhile enjoy your present setup and music.
thanks.

 

[syed_rizvi]

Thank Hseplak,

Do you think A26 will be ok with 2060, as in compatibility issues wise ? I've still not placed the order so thought of checking with you.

Thank again.

 

[hseplak]

@syed,ah see i am not that good at maths, if specs wise both match and sound wise you like them then you should go for them, meanwhile you can consult the senior fms for compatibility issues.
thanks.

 

[syed_rizvi]

Thanks mate, Will check with other FMs as well.

Dear FMs,

Do you guys think there will be compatibility issues between Boston Acoustics and Norge 2060 ? My quick observations are as follows :-

A 26 have the capacity of handling 10-150 watts of power and 8 OMS impedance. 2060 will produce 60 watts per channel at 8 OMS, so that should be good.

But I might be horribly wrong due to my half cooked / incomplete knowledge. I'll go by what all you experts will say here.

Many Thanks in advance.

 

[grunthos]

No there shouldn't be any compatibility issues between Norge and BA
You can go ahead and purchase

 

[syed_rizvi]

Thanks grunthos.

I'll go ahead with the purchase.

Will you all on the reviews and pictures once the set up is done.

Many Thanks,

 

[sachin_k5]

Thanks mate, Will check with other FMs as well.

Dear FMs,

Do you guys think there will be compatibility issues between Boston Acoustics and Norge 2060 ? My quick observations are as follows :-

A 26 have the capacity of handling 10-150 watts of power and 8 OMS impedance. 2060 will produce 60 watts per channel at 8 OMS, so that should be good.

But I might be horribly wrong due to my half cooked / incomplete knowledge. I'll go by what all you experts will say here.

Many Thanks in advance.

Thumbs up ! Go ahead if you like the sound !

 

[rohitmusic]

Hi,
Just my 2 cents..

If you are just starting out then try to give yourself some time before you pull the trigger *which ever* speakers you buy.

You can always buy the speakers but once you have them you just have them!

It is good that you have decided on the speakers. So you are done with step 1.
Now step 2 is to keep them as your benchmark and continue your auditions (this means you can also get a chance to audition some higher end speakers as a bonus ).

So in summary: take time and be patient and give yourself maximum time to visit showroom/listen to forum member setups if possible. I am sure there are many helping members around who can invite you over

The last thing I would advice you would be "just go ahead and buy it NOW!" In my humble experience patience always pays BIG in audiophile world..

This is a good and exciting time for you so take your own sweet time to make the call

(This is assuming you are just starting and have'nt got a chance to audition many a speakers uptill now. I find auditioning different speakers very exciting hence this 2 cents shared.. )

Cheers!

Thanks mate, Will check with other FMs as well.

Dear FMs,

Do you guys think there will be compatibility issues between Boston Acoustics and Norge 2060 ? My quick observations are as follows :-

A 26 have the capacity of handling 10-150 watts of power and 8 OMS impedance. 2060 will produce 60 watts per channel at 8 OMS, so that should be good.

But I might be horribly wrong due to my half cooked / incomplete knowledge. I'll go by what all you experts will say here.

Many Thanks in advance.