copy protected cds

[stillsearching..]

hi, I have a Primare CD21 which refuses to read copy protected cds, in fact the player hangs.will have to switch off the power and switch on again for the cd tray to eject. is it just my player or a problem with all primare cd players ?

 

[linuxguru]

The problem is that the so-called copy-protected discs are not Redbook CD-DA compliant, and are not guaranteed to play on *any* standard Redbook-compliant CD player. If they play at all, it's just by accident - the Redbook CD-DA standard does not specify any copy-protection at all (which wasn't necessary at the time the standard was drafted in 1980, when CD-Rs didn't exist).

Compact Disc Digital Audio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In short, the so-called copy-protected discs are not CDs at all, and cannot legally be called CDs or Compact Discs. If the labelling on the disk or its packaging contains the CD logo, it's unlawful and you are entitled to pursue all legal remedies for damages.

 

[stillsearching..]

its this one-http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6680662/a/free+form.htm.wouldnt expect this from a company like blue note, but then i guess they had their reasons.i had a marantz cd 48 (?) which could play anything that was chucked in it.maybe somebody could compile a list of players that do play protected cds.i do have a lot of protected cds, george Harrisons albums, gerry rafferty etc.

 

[IndianEars]

The Copy Protection of Audio CDs was intended to negate any attempts to rip or copy the CDs at High Speed. ( Ripping at more than 1 x ). It places intentional errors at strategic locations. these errors are handled by the CD player's error correction, with the CD being read at 1x. However the strtegic location of the errors results in a large cummulative error if the CD is read ( process of ripping) at more than 1x.

I remember the Stereophile CDs were similarly Copy Protected.

I tried to rip one using EAC: Exact Audio Copy ( I did not know it was copy protected).

EAC kept struggling, so I left it over night .....

Next morning I had a Pristine Rip. All copies from the rip are no lomnger "Copy Protected" !

 

[stillsearching..]

The Copy Protection of Audio CDs was intended to negate any attempts to rip or copy the CDs at High Speed. ( Ripping at more than 1 x ). It places intentional errors at strategic locations. these errors are handled by the CD player's error correction, with the CD being read at 1x. However the strtegic location of the errors results in a large cummulative error if the CD is read ( process of ripping) at more than 1x.

I remember the Stereophile CDs were similarly Copy Protected.

I tried to rip one using EAC: Exact Audio Copy ( I did not know it was copy protected).

EAC kept struggling, so I left it over night .....

Next morning I had a Pristine Rip. All copies from the rip are no lomnger "Copy Protected" !

exactly what i did too, ripped to my PC , using CDex i think.used some other software in tandem to remove(or bypass) the copy protection. took only a few minutes. but it irks me that we have to do this after buying the original cd, shelling out a few extra bucks too for the stereophile stuff.

 

[IndianEars]

but it irks me that we have to do this after buying the original cd, shelling out a few extra bucks too for the stereophile stuff.

TOTALLY agree with you.

The imposed errors should (atleast theoretically) result in poorer sound, hence a Shame that an Audiophile CD such as from Stereophile should do this and degrade its sound ...

 

[Shivam]

I have a NAD 546BEE that also doesn't play copy protected CDs. I use another multiformat player as a transport for playing such discs.

 

[stillsearching..]

I have a NAD 546BEE that also doesn't play copy protected CDs. I use another multiformat player as a transport for playing such discs.

which multiformat player is that please ? i have an Oppo BD83.have not tried playing these discs on that.does the NAD hang too when a protected disc is inserted ?

 

[Shivam]

Yes, the player (NAD) simply freezes after playing for sometime and then I have to power it 'off' and then 'on' to eject the disc. The freeze always occurs at the same location which, I guess, might be an indication of the location of copy protection.
I use a Pioneer BDP150 (bluray player) as a transport for such discs.

 

[stillsearching..]

Yes, the player (NAD) simply freezes after playing for sometime and then I have to power it 'off' and then 'on' to eject the disc. The freeze always occurs at the same location which, I guess, might be an indication of the location of copy protection.
I use a Pioneer BDP150 (bluray player) as a transport for such discs.

Ahm ok. let me see what happens with the oppo. i shall throw in a disc with a prayer for a song.

 

[stillsearching..]

Hey Shivam , thanks a lot for that piece of info . tried a protected cd on an oppo BD player (FINALLY!!!! ) and it played flawlessly. saved me from buying another cd player !!!!! now if i can only figure out how not to accidentally play a protected cd on my primare ,

 

[IndianEars]

The Oppo sounds acceptable for audio only, compared to the Primare ??

 

[stillsearching..]

it is pretty much acceptable. but i've only played HDCDs and SACDs on my AV setup.so i'll need to connect the oppo to my stereo setup to get a perfect idea. which i'll do very soon.

 

[stillsearching..]

Ok , heres what i did : rigged up my oppo BDP-83 to the stereo setup(atlas hyper interconnects). accuphase E-212 integrated amp connected to Tannoy arden speakers with nordost valhalla single strand cables.primare cd21 connected to amp with Atlas hyper interconnects.made 2 copies of Steve Turre's "one4J-paying homage to J J Johnson" (telarc)' because i did not want to have copy vs original issues. when i played both players simultaneously, no difference.zilch, zero . no difference.

 

[rangarao_vk]

I always use IMGBURN to author my CD's and have never faced a problem.Hope this helps