Denon 1610 vs Denon 1910

[corElement]

Profx 1st cut quote is like the highest price, after this you can tell them you have someone in bangalore getting it for 38, but if they give it to ou for 39, youll buy the interconnects from them worth 1k aswell and also a denon 1610.

All in all you should have a whole 5.1 setup with avr that has true hd decoding at the exact price of 39+1+25= 65 but if this isnt possible, pay no more than 68.5.

My guess is if profx has access to it, get the whole thing from them. They have good after service.

 

[spirovious]

1910 is for 33.5k in grey(Banglore)
1610 24k.(even less)

 

[sanchits]

hi, i was checking the prices of denon 1610/1910 in UK, online and found out that 1610 and 1910 should cost around 18k and 26k repectively. It means if I buy one from there i could get the 1910 for the price of 1610 in India, right? Do you guys think its worth it. Is the one year warranty we get in India worth so much more. Does anything happen to these amps in its 1st year as i have no clue about their shelf life as i am buying such an AVR for the first time.

 

[idlebrain]

hi, i was checking the prices of denon 1610/1910 in UK, online and found out that 1610 and 1910 should cost around 18k and 26k repectively. It means if I buy one from there i could get the 1910 for the price of 1610 in India, right? Do you guys think its worth it.

Please check if Denon warranty is applicable in India as well which I don't think it is.

Is the one year warranty we get in India worth so much more. Does anything happen to these amps in its 1st year as i have no clue about their shelf life as i am buying such an AVR for the first time.

Initially I bought 1610, after using for a week(3 weeks I had it without opening), its HDMI out is burned out for some reason, AVR couldn't send the signal to display.Dealer agreed to replace it with new one at that time I upgraded to 1910 by paying difference amount.Similar kind of issue is faced by sventeshsmart in our forum,this time it is from USA.
So if you ask me one year india warranty matters, its big YES.
http://www.hifivision.com/surround-amplifiers-receivers/8891-re-denon-1910-gone-kaput-pls-help.html

 

[ssps]

I am planning to buy either denon 1910 or onkyo 607. I have lots of secretmyth BR Rip with aac audio and audio quality is very bad in sony HT . Will either of these receivers will give good 5.1 sound for aac connected thru optical cable from WD media player?

 

[infinity]

I am planning to buy either denon 1910 or onkyo 607. I have lots of secretmyth BR Rip with aac audio and audio quality is very bad in sony HT . Will either of these receivers will give good 5.1 sound for aac connected thru optical cable from WD media player?

I think both 1910 and 607 are very good receivers. However, I feel the DCDi Faroujda upscaling of 607 is much better than Denon 1910 upscaler...inspite of DCDi - in 607 upscaling limit to 1080i...compared to 1080p in 1910. If I were to choose among the 2 ..I would go for Denon 1910...its a personal choice

Regarding 720p/1080p secretmyth/ps3-team..etc BD rips...all these are 5.1/6.1 coded from source BDs @ 24Fps. I know that it works absolutely fine even in an old Yamaha / HK receiver through Digital Input...from WDTV...(audio set to Digital)...what issue are you having with Sony HT, which one is it and what is ur connection setup ?? Havent tried this with a 1910 or a 607, but have heard very good results with 1910 for 24p playback and 5.1 performance of 720p/1080p rips.

hi, i was checking the prices of denon 1610/1910 in UK, online and found out that 1610 and 1910 should cost around 18k and 26k repectively. It means if I buy one from there i could get the 1910 for the price of 1610 in India, right?

Would'nt you need to pay duty ? :sad:
& Warranty is really worth it according to me. All these AVR components are of good build quality and do not degrade rapidly with careful / thoughtful usage over time. The only issue is minor manufacturing defects which surfaces easily in early days of operation >>> which needs safeguarding with warranty. Therefore it is always advisable to try out Each and Every function possible out of your AVR in the early days.

The s606 has questionable internal components but thats a different topic

Absolutely agree
Overall build quality of Wharf is better that Jamo IMHO.

thanks everyone for the replies. i don't need the upscaling feature or the 7.1 audio. Does it make sense spending more just for the wattage as i stated before i will mostly need it for music and a bit of movies. I am planning to buy Jamo s606 or wharf diamond series. So, would the 1610 be enough for these speakers and the likes.

If you dont need the upscaling features..go for the 1610 - eyes closed. Wharfs pair up very well with Denon..you can pair it up with 9.1 / 9.2 / 10.1 / 10.2. The 9.1 / 10.1 sound superb with 1610...especially the 9.1..which is a tried and tested combination. The 10.1 is also great...but need to be positioned carefully to take advantage of the "Rear Firing Twin Reflex Ports". Try and audition these combos..you will notice the difference. The xx.2s will give you better bass reproduction owing to the 6.5" drivers than the 5" ones in the xx.1s. However, its always better to invest in a sub for overall better bass performance.

 

[ssps]

My sony HT is very old doesn't even have digital inputs , so leave that ... I have read only high end and very limited AVR decodes AAC to 5.1 and most of other AVR merely decodes it to 2 channel stereo , is that true?

 

[reignofchaos]

I think both 1910 and 607 are very good receivers. However, I feel the DCDi Faroujda upscaling of 607 is much better than Denon 1910 upscaler...inspite of DCDi - in 607 upscaling limit to 1080i...compared to 1080p in 1910. If I were to choose among the 2 ..I would go for Denon 1910...its a personal choice

The Denons have the Anchor Bay VRS chip (exists in the Oppo BD83 as well) for upscaling which is a few gens ahead of the Faroujda DCDi. So I'm guessing that the Denon would do much better.

 

[sud98]

The Denons have the Anchor Bay VRS chip (exists in the Oppo BD83 as well) for upscaling which is a few gens ahead of the Faroujda DCDi. So I'm guessing that the Denon would do much better.

Roc,

The Denon 1910 uses an older version of Anchor Bay (1030) versus the Denon 2310 (or even the Oppo 983/bdp83) which use the ABT 2010.

The ABT 2010 is far superior that Faroujda DCDi, I am not very sure of the ABT 1030 as it is a few gens behind.

 

[infinity]

Absolutely Correct @ sud98.

@reignofchaos : You are right in saying that Denons will do better..but only 2310 models and above...check out other posts where another person spent the extra $$ on the Denon 1910 and was not at all happy with the upscaling results.

@ ssps...I know that relatively all average receivers decodes 5.1 AC3 very well...and the higher models will surely as well. 5.1 AAC .MP4 container is easily decoded by any apple product. so if you have a Mac...your problem is solved hyeah: However, if thats not the option....you can always covert AAC to AC3 using any convertor and play through your receiver. If you need to play AAC 5.1...it will only play as 2.1 through the receiver.

 

[surinder1508]

Guys can I leave video up-scaling job for my XFX GTX260 core 216 BE (spatially when video source is going to be the same PC) n save money with non video upscaler AVR like Denon 1610 or if AVR like Denon 1910 or anything else around 30K will upscale better then my existing video card then I have to consider a video upscaler AVR cause I'm going to use it for more then 70% of times for HD/full HD videos.

One more thing as my projector is going to be 720P is that means my system will be bottle-necked by it to upscale SD and HD to up to 720P and even downscale full HD videos (1080P) to down to 720P.

 

[spirovious]

I found GC upscaling is better than AVR & yes I am happy with 7300 & old onkyo AVR.

 

[surinder1508]

Thanks spiro its a good news for me n and what about my 2nd query?

 

[spirovious]

If projector is HD-ready,it will Dnscale 1080p & upscale SD to 720p.

 

[amitksvs]

Hi Friends, Good discussion here on 1610, I am seriously contemplating about getting one, a few points I wanted to ask you people here about 1610 are
1. How good would be 1610 for Music? I know asking how good an AVR could be for music is little nave nevertheless I would want to buy something which could be used for both music as well as movies.
2. No body has talked about Compressed Audio Restorer feature of 1610 does it help in making good of losses in mp3 formats etc,?
3. How does Wharfedale 9.5 pair with Denon 1610? May I go with 9.5 for 1610 initially and then add on other components later?
4. How good is Norges Floorstander TWR 125 for this kind of a setup and later add other components?
If above is not a plausible combo, which AVR shall I go for, if attach equal importance to Music and music for me would be Classic Rock, Fusion n World music, Indian classical. Please help!

 

[no1lives4ever]

Hi Friends, Good discussion here on 1610, I am seriously contemplating about getting one, a few points I wanted to ask you people here about 1610 are
1. How good would be 1610 for Music? I know asking how good an AVR could be for music is little nave nevertheless I would want to buy something which could be used for both music as well as movies.
2. No body has talked about Compressed Audio Restorer feature of 1610 does it help in making good of losses in mp3 formats etc,?
3. How does Wharfedale 9.5 pair with Denon 1610? May I go with 9.5 for 1610 initially and then add on other components later?
4. How good is Norges Floorstander TWR 125 for this kind of a setup and later add other components?
If above is not a plausible combo, which AVR shall I go for, if attach equal importance to Music and music for me would be Classic Rock, Fusion n World music, Indian classical. Please help!

1. I would recommend that you test the receiver + speakers combo in a demo room with your own music to get an idea. My take is that a 1610 or a 1910 will both be pretty good for music. The 1910 has a feature where i can set the surround back speaker output to a separete set of speakers for listening to music. This way you can have a 5.1 setup for movies and a separete 2.0 setup for music. The 1910 can also use the surround back speakers to bi-amp the front speakers in a 5.0/5.1 setup. This can help extract better performance out of your speakers.

2. The compressed audio restorer adds fake frequencies to the track. These frequencies need not be the same that got removed by the compression process. There are 3 modes on the 1910. The Mode 3 aka HQ mode does a good job of removing compression artifacts from 128kbps MP3 tracks. It definitely makes poorly compressed music sound decent on the system, otherwise the poor quality MP3 tracks stand out like a sore thumb. But then again, at the end of the day, the compressed audio restorer only adds fake stuff. If you are serious about your music listening, then it is better to re-rip the tracks from CD onto a 256kbps VBR MP3 or some lossless format like FLAC or apple lossless.

I would also add that you should not discount the upscaler of the 1910. The 1910's upscaler also does a very good job upscaling the composite output from Tata Sky SD STB than my TV. The ppscaled composite Tata Sky SD channels also look a lot better than they do on my Dish HD STB, which does an upscaling to 1080i over HDMI. You should test this out with your STB+TV combo to see if you are seeing any real benefit. Some TVs come with very good upscalers and for those, it might be a better idea to let the TV to do the upscaling.

-- no1lives4ever

 

[manoj_joseph78]

Hi,

I have a HD ready 50 inch plasma. I am going for tata sky HD once it is available in Kerala. Will there be any benefits going for 1910 for the HDMI upscaler? Will the SD and HD channels be upscaled accordingly?

Thanks,
Manoj

 

[no1lives4ever]

I have a HD ready 50 inch plasma. I am going for tata sky HD once it is available in Kerala. Will there be any benefits going for 1910 for the HDMI upscaler? Will the SD and HD channels be upscaled accordingly?

The HD ready 50" Plasma would most likely be a 720p panel. I do not know how much difference the upscaler would make on such a panel.

I did originally demo the 1910 with a 720p screen and the upscaler did properly downscale the 1080p output of my laptop's HDMI output to 720p, but then I was not doing any critical evaluation of the upscaler's output. It looked quite bad to me

With my HD stb, the upscaling is done on the STB, and that does as bad a job as my LG TV. I use the upscaler only with my tata sky SD STB, and with that, it does a great job of upscaling the composite output to 1080i HDMI for my TV.

I would not recommend spending extra for a 1910 only for the upscaler when you are going to be using it with a 50" 720p plasma display, as your display might already have a good enough upscaler. You need to check and see if the other features on the 1910 are worth the price difference.

-- no1lives4ever

 

[ozzymandias]

Manual has the codes for DVDp/HDP(Blu Ray),TV for all the major brands.You just need to press the codes in the 1910 remote for each mode (DVDp/HDP/TV).Its very easy.

G'day Idlebrain
True but some of the brands have multiple codes so how do you determine which code is applicable? I have a Denon AVR2310 and for example there are 13 codes for a Sony DVD player so how do you choose the correct one? I may be wrong but I presume they could be linked to the various Sony DVD models.
Any comment would be appreciated.