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Not a big fan of stereophile or any of the rags. But it is really nice to see reality checks like this re surfacing once in a while.

Accuracy Is Not the Answer | Stereophile.com

Maybe it comes down to this: Making gear that's more accurate and/or measures better isn't the same as making better-sounding gear. Today's best gear can play louder, with lower distortion, and has wider bandwidth than the best of yesteryear's "Recommended Components." That's true, but a hi-rez file of a new recording can't match the bloody realism of a 1960 RCA Living Stereo LP played through a well-set-up turntable, 1980s-era electronics, and a pair of Quad ESL or Klipschorn speakers
 
Hi,

In similar vein Art Dudley in the same magazine.

It's reasonable for the average person to assume that hi-fi gear has also improved over the years, but that isn't entirely true. Although the audio industry has made strides in eliminating tonal distortions and in creating for the listener a more exciting spatial presentation of recorded sound, to me early playback equipment endures in sounding far more tactile, dramatic, and colorful. In those respects, contemporary gear has not only failed to hold its ground since 1962, it has markedly declined.

In other consumer industries, developmental gains appear to come at relatively little cost. In the quest for cars that are safer, faster, and more comfortable, fuel efficiency hasn't merely remained steady: It has improved, along with everything else. Yet audio engineers often seem no better at banishing distortions than I am at shooing flies out of the house: They can't get rid of one without letting in another. Amplifier designers sacrifice immediacy and speed for power, phonograph designers sacrifice musical dynamics for low tracking force, and loudspeaker designers swap efficiency for extended bass and treble.

Think of it: A loudspeaker's most fundamental task is to convert electricity into sounda task at which the average new model fails more resoundingly with each passing year. What the hell kind of progress is that?

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Rajiv
 
I am not against measurements but this extract from here showcasing the audio-video setups of the contributing editors of Hifi News and Record Review magazine, probably the oldest surviving audio magazine in the world (since 1956), is relevant. This article is about the current editor Paul Miller, who is acknowledged as one of the foremost authorities in developing tests for all kinds of measurements for audio.


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And the search for correlation with sound quality, are we closer today than ten or twenty years ago?
Most certainly. But the task is still a huge jigsaw puzzle. Its easier to predict sound quality with front-end components like pick-ups and DACs, less easy with amps because theyre influenced by whats connected both fore and aft. Speakers? Im happy to leave these with Keith Howard whos already forgotten more than most reviewers know about the subject.
But correlation will never be absolute until you can factor in the tastes and expectations of the reviewer. I always lab test our review products first, not only to reject those with fatal flaws but also to decide which of our guys will have the greatest empathy with its performance. Two reviewers may have separate reactions to the same product, but the lab data remains the same. Its not about some notional idea of good or bad measurements but how the various facets of performance interact.
Like I say, reading the numbers is like trying to complete a complex jigsaw when youve only a rough idea of the picture and absolutely no idea of how many pieces are missing. But will we ever drop the last piece in place? I believe so, but not necessarily in my lifetime!
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Emphases mine. The last emphasis is rather gloomy.
 
Hi,


"We should no more let numbers define audio quality than we would let chemical analysis be the arbiter of fine wines..." -- Nelson Pass


Regards
Rajiv
 
Like I say, reading the numbers is like trying to complete a complex jigsaw when youve only a rough idea of the picture and absolutely no idea of how many pieces are missing. But will we ever drop the last piece in place? I believe so, but not necessarily in my lifetime!
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A much forgotten reality!
 
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