Frugal Horn MK3 - MA CHR-70A

manniraj

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I got hold of couple of MA CHR-70A 4" champaigne color drivers from Singapore couple of weeks ago and started the itch to build and finish the Frugal Horn immediately :ohyeah:. The necessary components like the speaker terminals, speaker connectors, woolen felt booked it from diyaudiocart.com site and I received the same last week. So couple of days back got hold of my carpenters and in a day's time managed to cut the panels to size as per the measurements from this site. As they were not having any idea of the purpose for which the panels were being cut, I have to measure it accurately and use the mathematical geometry box rulers for the angled cuts with perfect degree. I made sure that they followed my instructions but still they were not able to give a precision cut using the jigsaw. I have to work overtime with sandpaper to make it to the accurate cut.

Thanks to bijin/bibin for the pictures of their build I was able to follow it for having the woolen felt pasted properly on all the sides behind the driver mounting baffle. I followed the instructions given in the above site for polyfill (recron pillow stuffing) fillings for my CHR-70 drivers. Spent yesterday and today full day and was able to make the cabinets ready by today evening :) and mounted the drivers and started listening to them. I got hold of a small piece of 4mm veneer sheet which I am going to use on the baffle so that I can make the drivers as flush mounting similar to my Zaph build.

I can now proudly say that this is my baby as I did the entire cabinets myself and I think I improved from my Zaph build but still the finish is not as good as bijin/bibin's. Hopefully I can improve further and by the time I become expect my wife would have thrown me out ;)

Coming to the listening impressions, I started with AR Rahman's best album (Kandukondain Kandukondain) as per my taste with Hari Harans voice. With just barely less than 10 min burn-in his voice was coming out so clearly with very nice instrument separation. The bass is superb with such a small driver and I think all the credit goes to the cabinet design. I felt the highs are little shrill at present but should settle down after may be 100 hrs but looking at online reviews most of the people have used a 3" super tweeter to compliment the highs. But I feel I may not require the tweeter fingers crossed.

My Zaph BS are resting now and the FH are doing my stereo duty. Hopefully in another couple of months time I will be getting the Pass B1 and a nice power amplifier for my Zaph speakers and the Marantz amp with the FH and move them to my bedroom.

Not yet decided with the finish but thinking of going with auto grade spray finish or may be use the laminate veneer. Now the build pictures :)

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Congratulations Manniraj! Very nicely done....

The FH3 design seems to be getting a lot of attention in the forum recently. It will be great to hear a more detailed review once the drivers have settled in.

Best,
APK
 
Congratulations manniraj!

Your DIY spirit is commendable. You did all this over a weekend, superb.

Even I wanted to go with FH or MLTL but confused if I ever need a tweeter. My listening does not get limited to any genres but I like to listen to fast numbers and heavy metal repeatedly and occasional melody , Ilayaraja hits and ARR hits.

I am referring to something like this.

DIY - Mini torre com Fostex FE166en + Tweeter vifa - YouTube
 
Congratulations Manniraj! Very nicely done....

The FH3 design seems to be getting a lot of attention in the forum recently. It will be great to hear a more detailed review once the drivers have settled in.

Best,
APK

These are cheap and slightly complex to make. I think my overall cost of the build would be around 10k as the majority of the work was done by me :licklips:
 
Congratulations manniraj!

Your DIY spirit is commendable. You did all this over a weekend, superb.

Even I wanted to go with FH or MLTL but confused if I ever need a tweeter. My listening does not get limited to any genres but I like to listen to fast numbers and heavy metal repeatedly and occasional melody , Ilayaraja hits and ARR hits.

I am referring to something like this.

DIY - Mini torre com Fostex FE166en + Tweeter vifa - YouTube

Thanks, yes I was very eager to finish it this weekend as I am not sure how the things will turn out next weekend as I may be busy with some travel. As of now they are performing more than my expectations and slightly behind my Zaph speakers. But I may change this view after sometime once the drivers burn-in.
Why don't you come down to my place once I am done with the finish of the cabinets and listen to yourself and then may be make up your mind. Your are most welcome to visit.
 
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Thanks, yes I was very eager to finish it this weekend as I am not sure how the things will turn out next weekend as I may be busy with some travel. As of now they are performing more than my expectations and slightly behind my Zaph speakers. But I may change this view may be after sometime once the drivers burn-in.
Why don't you come down to my place once I am done with the finish of the cabinets and listen to yourself and then may be make up your mind. Your are most welcome to visit.

Thank you for the invite. I will surely visit once you are done with the cabinets.
 
congrats! absolutely DIY!!!

I could have suggested no-screws for the panels. but theses do not matter here.

how did you manage the 69" radi cut
 
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congrats! absolutely DIY!!!

I could have suggested no-screws for the panels. but theses do not matter here.

how did you manage the 69" radi cut

Congrats buddy...
Its very simple, I went and purchased a compass box :ohyeah:(first time after my schooling). So went thru the manual and it says 85.2 degrees so I first made a drawing of the rectangle cut with the exact measurements for the length and breadth. Then used the protractor to measure the angle and then drew a line passing the top breadth. Now coming to the curved cut, I measured the length of the top breadth to the bottom and then made a center point and from there used a protractor to put a perpendicular line and measure the length as per the manual. And then used a straight stick used for beading (the ones which can be bent easily) and bent it exactly touching the perpendicular point with the top and bottom edges holding to the edges.

I think I explained a lot but not sure whether it made any sense :lol:
 
OK! Apart from getting a geometry box, you should also - seriously - think of adding a circular router jig into your kitty to do the flush mounting. Or, at the least, get the baffle done by CNC. Especially if you're going to be diy-er. All the best!
 
OK! Apart from getting a geometry box, you should also - seriously - think of adding a circular router jig into your kitty to do the flush mounting. Or, at the least, get the baffle done by CNC. Especially if you're going to be diy-er. All the best!

Yes definitely a CNC cut panels would come out nicely compared to the way I have done but getting the CNC workshops to do this kind of small works is a pain to convince them. By the way I own an apartment and as I live on the ground floor I was able to finish the work in my balcony with the panels cut at my car parking area. Getting all the tools will not be feasible for people living in apartments and using them, the neighbours will throw me out.
 
It seems to be raining Frugal Horns on HFV.. Congrats on the build. Now got for the finishing ASAP to increase the WAF quotient.

She wants to go with the auto grade spray finish to match the interiors and I am planning to with laminate veneer as it would be easy to finish as getting the cabinets ready for the spray finish is a pain as those guys will not do the rubbing/sanding to our expectation. So lets see how it goes in another couple of weeks.
 
Its very simple, ... coming to the curved cut, I measured the length of the top breadth to the bottom and then made a center point and from there used a protractor to put a perpendicular line and measure the length as per the manual. And then used a straight stick used for beading (the ones which can be bent easily) and bent it exactly touching the perpendicular point with the top and bottom edges holding to the edges ...

Genius idea. Fantastic solution to a not so simple problem!
 
This is great Manniraj.

You have been so quick in this build up. I was just surprised how quickly you moved with this build up.

Congratulations!
 
This is great Manniraj.

You have been so quick in this build up. I was just surprised how quickly you moved with this build up.

Congratulations!

Thanks Amit, I was free this weekend and thought of finishing at least the raw cabinets.
 
She wants to go with the auto grade spray finish to match the interiors and I am planning to with laminate veneer as it would be easy to finish as getting the cabinets ready for the spray finish is a pain as those guys will not do the rubbing/sanding to our expectation. So lets see how it goes in another couple of weeks.

Hi Ramesh,

Nice to see that you have completed the build. Hope you are also enjoying the music very much like me with the FH3.

My advices is better stay away from paint finish. It requires lot of effort to achieve decent finish. You need to finish the joints perfectly otherwise it will be visible after painting. Laminate will be easy compared to paint. Still you need some sanding and putty work.

Really appreciate your dedication and speed of work.

Thanks,
Bibin
 
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