Got my Wharfedale 9.2 diamond's.. First impressions

thekinge thanks for the quick reply .

In one of the forums Venkat sir mentioned a link I used that link to caliculate and here are the results ...

inputs : Speaker sensitivity - 88db
Amp power - 100 watts (per ch)
Distance - 12 feet
No of Speakers - 2
Speaker Placement (near the wall 2 feet option selected)

Results : Gain from amp - 20
Loss due to dispersion - -10.5
DB gain from sonic reinforcement - 3
DB gain from placement - 3
DB spl at listening postion - 103.5


I am having hard time interpreting the caliculations :-)
 
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kittu1977 said:
thekinge thanks for the quick reply .

In one of the forums Venkat sir mentioned a link I used that link to caliculate and here are the results ...

inputs : Speaker sensitivity - 88db
Amp power - 100 watts (per ch)
Distance - 12 feet
No of Speakers - 2
Speaker Placement (near the wall 2 feet option selected)

Results : Gain from amp - 20
Loss due to dispersion - -10.5
DB gain from sonic reinforcement - 3
DB gain from placement - 3
DB spl at listening postion - 103.5


I am having hard time interpreting the caliculations :-)
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Kittu,

That link is for calculating how many decibels are hitting your ears given the power of your amp, sensitivity of your speakers etc. You can use that result to see if the SPL is safe for your ears or not. It is not useful for speaker calibration!

Do calibrate your speakers using Audyssey and let me know the results.

Also, what is the volume level in the 608 when you're listening to music / watching movies?
 
thekinge said:
Kittu,

That link is for calculating how many decibels are hitting your ears given the power of your amp, sensitivity of your speakers etc. You can use that result to see if the SPL is safe for your ears or not. It is not useful for speaker calibration!

Do calibrate your speakers using Audyssey and let me know the results.

Also, what is the volume level in the 608 when you're listening to music / watching movies?
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Correct ! I will try that calibration tomorrow... I am listening AVG volume of 40 - 45 .
 
Kittu,

Were you able to do the toe in test I requested you to do yesterday? Any discernable differences between toeing in vs. not toeing in?
 
thekinge said:
Kittu,

Were you able to do the toe in test I requested you to do yesterday? Any discernable differences between toeing in vs. not toeing in?
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Tried it I realized the sound was too high @ low levels as well coz both speakers were directionally hitting my ears .

As the level of loudness got increased the trebels were flowing high and bass was tight at few spots I heard some jarrrrrrrrr in the bass segment (not able to figure out from where)

The audio dispersion was angled to the listening direction so there is less vibration of walls or doors .

When I am seated in the corner I could barely listen anything so in my kind of small living room I think I shld leave them toe-out ....

After I do the calibration I am going to try this toe-in / out thing again to see what suits best.

Kittu
 
Can't say about the rest of the Diamond range, but I FLAT OUT LOVE the 9.1 for its awesome midrange and mid-treble integration.... exceptional with small woodwind ensembles. :)
 
thekinge said:
Nice setup Kittu! I notice that the speakers are placed too close to the walls. The Diamond 9.x and 10.x are rear ported and its best to place them at least a feet away from the walls to avoid the bass being boomy. Try placing it away from the rear wall and let me know if you like the bass then.

Also, the speakers are not toed in. Can you please do a test for me? Try playing some of your favorite songs (songs that you are very familiar with) with the speakers in their current position. Then toe in the speakers in a 20 30 degree angle towards the listening position and then play those same tracks . And please tell me if you hear any difference after toeing in and if you like it or not. I will tell you the reason for asking you to do this test after you do the testing (if you agree to do the testing that is):)
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I completely agree with @ thekinge.
Try placing the speakers so that the rear is in the same line as the front of the cabinet. Listen to the music for some time and then try to toe in the speakers slightly and mark the positions with a tape, and listen to the change. Toe in little by little until the music really sounds great to your ears.
I did the same exercise with my Mordaunt Short Carnival 6 during the initial 100 hours of burn-in and now am finally happy with the set-up.
 
maniac_2004 said:
Hi .. how does the 9.2 compare with the 9.1 ? which one is better buy ?
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If you want sound going as low as 35 Hz and loud... then 9.2 is clear choice. However if sound till 50Hz is and moderate volume is ok for you... you can save some bucks by going for 9.1.

Regds,
Sonosphere
 
sonosphere said:
If you want sound going as low as 35 Hz and loud... then 9.2 is clear choice. However if sound till 50Hz is and moderate volume is ok for you... you can save some bucks by going for 9.1.

Regds,
Sonosphere
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so i will essentially be saving a subwoofer by buying a 9.2 ? Am i correct on this assumption ?

if so seems a great vfm ..
 
maniac_2004 said:
so i will essentially be saving a subwoofer by buying a 9.2 ? Am i correct on this assumption ?

if so seems a great vfm ..
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Hi maniac,
If you are talking about reproducing music... yes you are correct in assumption. Read on...

Bookshelf speakers generally need assistance of subwoofer to reproduce music wherein freq below 50 Hz should not be lesser than 3dB in level, in comparison to remaining part of spectrum. This basically means that the bass notes should sound almost as loud as other notes present in higher spectrum (what's the point if a speaker is capable of playing bass notes, but it plays them so low in volume that they are hardly noticeable)

The Wharfe 9.2 is probably the only Bookshelf spkr among mainstream brands (i.e Monitor Audio, Paradigm, Quad, etc) that can deliver such low end within 20k.

However if you are talking about reproducing movie soundtrack, then you do NEED a subwoofer. As you may be aware the proportion and extent of bass in movies (as low as 10Hz) is dramatically higher than typical music track.

Regds,
Sonosphere
 
I have auditioned Wharfedale 9.2 paired with Denon CD Player DCD-710AE and Denon
Amp PMA-710AE in Designer audio Mumbai some time back. I really liked the warm and laid back sound with adequate bass. In this forum, I have read many threads which talk about the Marantz+Wharf 9.2 synergy. however I have not got a chance to audition. Have any of our members auditioned both. What are the suggestions comparing denon and marantz with wharf 9.2
 
seal78 said:
I have auditioned Wharfedale 9.2 paired with Denon CD Player DCD-710AE and Denon
Amp PMA-710AE in Designer audio Mumbai some time back. I really liked the warm and laid back sound with adequate bass. In this forum, I have read many threads which talk about the Marantz+Wharf 9.2 synergy. however I have not got a chance to audition. Have any of our members auditioned both. What are the suggestions comparing denon and marantz with wharf 9.2
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Marantz is more suited for music ... denon for HT+music so depends on your requirements . Why dont you audition it in cinebels ?
 
I have heard various Wharfedale models and most of them suit NAD amps better than Marantz. Try with NAD also if you get a chance.
 
Shivam said:
I have heard various Wharfedale models and most of them suit NAD amps better than Marantz. Try with NAD also if you get a chance.
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Thanks Shivam. Is there a particular model of NAD amps which matches well with Wharf 9.2? and what is the best source for this setup?
 
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