Help in selecting good carpet for HT living room

[renjith lal]

Hi All,

Need help in buying carpet for my living room which I use for music and movie. Of late I realized the importance of good absorption material and room treatment . As a first step I though of putting a good rug.I am attaching picture of my setup for better understanding.

My setup is in living room and I have all type of issues. Lot of reflections from tile, french window etc.So I need help in buying a good carpet. I already have one typical carpet generally we use. I feel a good rug will absorb lot of sound/reflections and it will help in improving sound quality. I am also planning to put some absorption panel/ foam pad in front of french window.

Can you guys suggest some good carpet (brands or what material I should buy) so that I can buy it. I can see lot of options but I just want to buy a good one and not end up buying a bad one for sound absorption. Please let me know your experienced suggestions.

Any suggestions other than rug is also appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Guys no suggestion?
Common guys need some experienced opinion.

Thanks
Renjith

 

[ranojoy]

Go ahead and buy any reasonably priced (unless you're in the "splurge" mode) carpet of your choice. Even a quarter inch thick ordinary carpet will make a HUGE difference. Make sure you cover at least 75% of the exposed floor area. In my opinion, floor coverage % is more important than buying a high quality but smaller carpet.

Size matters

 

[renjith lal]

Thanks ranoroy for your suggestion.
I checked most places in Blore they are mostly selling synthetic material carpet. Some of my friends suggested to use natural material. Wool I found some place but that is very expensive and I am not getting big size.

I am not only asking about carpet and any other suggestion is also welcome. I have some problem in putting curtain on french window. So any other suggestion will be great.

Thanks
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Bought one carpet and I could find the improvement in sound. Reflections from the tile has reduced and I find the sound is improved.

Next step I am planning to put absorbing panel at first reflection point on left side (french window side). After that I need to work on other areas.

Thanks
Renjith

Thanks
Renjith

 

[GeorgeO]

Hi Renjith

PM me your number, let's talk. I was travelling and with very limited internet access for the past two weeks, otherwise I would have responded. I've used Anutone boards in my HT room..

George

 

[renjith lal]

Hi George,

Thanks a lot for your time, I have send my contact number.

Thanks,
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Thanks George for giving me tips and I am working on that and will update you.

Thanks
Renjith

 

[audiohead]

With a room of that size and shape i doubt even carpets around the whole floor are gonna help you Renjith.

You mentioned that the reflections from the tiles have decreased since u put the carpet, i would really like to know how were you able to come to that conclusion, did you do a room test or are you saying it on the basis of hearing? cause if you have some data to support that theory i would be ok but if you are basing it on just by hearing it that its not possible.

You will never be able to just hear the reflections by ear and given the size of the room and shape the frequencies would be all over the place, please share the data if you did a RT60 test.

Suggestion : You would require lots and lots of absorption in that room, no offense to George but you would have to apply anutone boards to the whole walls + ceiling to achieve anything remarkable, besides i wont trust them cause they dont provide you with any NRC tests data on their website neither do they provide you the tests results on request.

I see some furniture and some wood work in the background which is definitely good but they must be absorbing like 0.05 which in the sound world is as good as zero. As far as i can see in the pictures your first reflection points are definitely the floor but you also have the left wall and the left corner and the right wall and the right corner.

I would suggest you invest in some Speaker pad absorbers to cancel the vibration on to the floor, you also need a lot of broadband absorbers for the walls behind the seating area and for the side walls. I also suggest you invest in some clouds which are very necessary in the case of your room. Since your room is long and i also see a passage way right behind the seating area im sure the frequencies in your room are going haywire.

If you have some extra funds i would suggest to go for some QRD Diffusers or Open Grid Diffusers which would add that scattering / diffusing touch to the room acoustics. You can also invest in some control columns and scatter blockers which would also give a very nice aesthetic feel to the room, you DEFINITELY need Bass Traps and i dont mean broadband absorbers i mean Bass Traps.

If you could share some more pictures from different angles of the room i would be able to help you some more. I would suggest you check these guys out cueacoustic.in.

Regards,

 

[renjith lal]

Hi Audiohead,

I just said based on hearing. I didn't do any measurement. Thanks a lot for suggestions.

My room has all bad things like french window on left hand side,POP done with regular gypsum board and a passage behind listening room etc.

I can send more detailed pictures to you.

Thanks,
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Hi All,

I interacted with few guys (anutone/ some other also) in Bangalore, they suggested to treat the wall behind the listening area. One issue is, area behind listening area (exact center) is a passage to bedrooms. So I am not sure what to do? Any suggestion will be great. I saw acoustic panels from anutone. They are 25mm thick and I think using grippers it can be put on wall. In that case how to put one inch gap, I am not sure.


I am thinking of having one panel at first reflection point on left ( in front of french window) other side it is to the kitchen and it is bit far.So a panel on right may not be that helpful.

Please let me know your opinion.

Thanks
Renjith

 

[audiohead]

Hi Audiohead,

I just said based on hearing. I didn't do any measurement. Thanks a lot for suggestions.

My room has all bad things like french window on left hand side,POP done with regular gypsum board and a passage behind listening room etc.

I can send more detailed pictures to you.

Thanks,
Renjith

Gypsum is good for STC but i doubt it has any absorption coefficient but again u might be using it for stc.

Please send some more pics, would definitely try and help. Also please share your experience with anutone boards, have never have had a chance to check them in person. But i doubt only putting these boards on you FRP & SRP is going to help or do any good but please do share your experience.

 

[renjith lal]

Interaction with anutone was bit tough. They work from 9.30 to 5.30,five days a week.
I went to there office on one working day and talked with a lady and they showed me few of there products.

One of our forumn member who works in anutone gave me a list of boards (panels) and price. But unfortunately he was traveling abroad and couldn't talk to him in detail, I will try to reach him.

 

[renjith lal]

Sorry, anutone works on some Saturdays (twice in a month) also.

 

[renjith lal]

Hi All,

I bought good curtains (100% cotton) and planning to put it behind the listening area which opens in to the passage. Also planning to put acoustic panels (poly wadding material) and place at first reflection point on side.

I bought a diffuser. ( not sure how good it is, need to check)
I am attaching the picture of the diffuser I bought. Ideally I know that diffuser should be placed behind the listening area. ( live at listener area and dead at area on front behind the speaker)
Can any one suggest location to put the so called diffuser in my living room?

I am getting some absorption panel, so is it good to put absorber and diffuser (adjacent to each other) behind listening area? I cannot put absorber on front side (behind speaker)since I already have veneer paneling done.

Any suggestion will be highly appreciated.

Also how to mount the absorption panels on wall?
Any suggestion?

Thanks
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Guys any suggestion?
Looks like all are busy with new year celebrations.

 

[renjith lal]

In order to do some room treatment I added one curtain behind the listening, I used 100% cotton for the curtain cloth, added three carpet and made three acoustic panel.
Acoustic panel is made of poly wadding material (size 4 feet by 2 feet) and covered with fabric. One panel is put on side in front of french window (first reflection point, placed it approximately) and two on rear. I have not place panel on other side since it is opening to kitchen and I guess it is not reflecting. I am placing the pictures after adding curtain, carpets and panels.

Got wedge foam from Bajaao (small 10inch by 10 inch) and place behind the center channel on TV unit. I just placed it, I mean I have not pasted it on any plywood board.

I didnt do anything on ceiling because I already have false ceiling done long back and dont want to try anything now.

Echoes and reflections from floor has reduced and sound has become tight.

Guys please let me know if you guys have any suggestion.

Thanks
Renjith

 

[renjith lal]

Forgot to mention that I moved speaker front by 1.5 feet from initial position forward and made 20 degree toe in.

 

[jacindawilson]

I also want some suggestion regarding the carpets.. I am looking for some Hotel carpet .. Can anyone suggest me the best carpet for the hall of my hotel.. And the best place to get these carpets..

 

[jenson]

Ideal position would have been along the French windows...once you throw open the window, there would be no rear reflections. that would remove a lot of clutter. of course that would mean, HT would be compromised and single seater sofa would've to be moved to a position where listener would face French windows... again here you could move the chair front/back to a sweet spot.