HFV CD Exchange Program

alcy

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Hello folks.

I understand that there are enough tools & resources available to all of us for discovering various kinds of music on the net and through magazines & journals...music we never thought we'd ever hear,new music in our preferred genres, new music from different genres, old music from different genres, music revelations...pretty much everything to cater to our music-related needs.

Well this thread (the program, rather) is about exploring yet another way to gain exposure to different music and broadening our musical horizons, although in a more humane & tangible manner. Music that you'd want to share, the music you'd like to share.

The idea is to simply send a CD to someone and then that person sends a CD to someone else, and the chain continues.

//Communication takes place through private messages for most of the part, and it should be frequent to avoid delays. Once a CD is received, the original sender is notified to keep track of the chain. Also, after receiving a CD, you notify the next person in line to ask for their address, and send him/her a CD.

//Groups can be made on the basis of state or region to increase fluidity of the exchange.

//Notes: No copied or burned discs should be sent, to avoid any sort of legal issues that may potentially arise. Send good/well maintained CDs to prevent any annoyance or embarrassment that may be caused by poor quality recordings.

If you'd like to participate, you can simply represent your interest on this thread, and hopefully we'll get this exchange started soon !

Rules:
1. If you sign up you must be willing to give away a CD and pay postage to ship that CD. Ensure good packing to avoid potential damage during transit.
2. CD's should be in like-new condition. They do not have to be new/sealed, but should be able to be played in any CD player.
3. If you want to share a SACD it must be a hybrid disc that will play in any CDP. Not everyone owns a SACD player.
4. Ideally, CD's should be quality recordings as we are all music lovers and are often critical about music and gear. Or think of it this way: send them a CD that you think they will like or one of your favorites for a critical listening session.
5. Once you receive your CD simply PM the next person in line for their address. Please respond quickly so we can get CD's shipped within a week of receiving your new disc.
6. No burned/copied CD's. We don't need any DRM issues!
7. Have fun! send a disc that you enjoy! When you receive your disc post in this thread some impressions and to let everyone else know where in line they are.



** Chennai Group **
thevortex
srinisundar
...awaiting more confirmations



** Delhi Grup **
ai7lcy
...awaiting more confirmations







P.S.: This idea was inspired by a similar program I came across on one of the forums I am a part of. It can be found here and here
 
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Good Luck for this Program . I dont allow even My wife to Touch the CDs and Equipment. So for my Nature :indifferent14: I am out of this program right way.
 
A nice idea in principle. I wonder what the resident lawyer (psychotropic) thinks about the modalities and legalities. Is it all OK?
 
Is this not pushing our friendliness a little too far? The idea of 'Right Now I am Listening To' is just that. It allows you see what people are listening too, and it is quite easy to sample the song or album. You can then decide whether you want to buy or not. There are over 400 hundred pages of listings there, and it will take you a couple of years to exhaust all that.

Even assuming I send a CD to you, what guarantees do I have that you will not copy the CD? The minute you do that, both the sender and the receiver become co-conspirators in a illegal activity.

Cheers
 
Good Luck for this Program . I dont allow even My wife to Touch the CDs and Equipment. So for my Nature :indifferent14: I am out of this program right way.

Even I don't let anyone to touch my CDs. But don't you think there will be a difference between how members on this forum (mostly audiophiles !) will handle a CD compared to "everyone else" ? I am not trying to push anyone here, but I don't find your line of reasoning to be convincing.

With so much of transportation involved and CDs changing so many hands, the CD will go kaput in no time. This may not work.

You do listen to CDs a hundred times right ? Does it go kaput on the 101th play ? And as I said above, most members of this forums are audiophiles...so I don't see the reason why someone would mis-handle your CDs. And regarding transportation, good packing can take care of that right ?

A nice idea in principle. I wonder what the resident lawyer (psychotropic) thinks about the modalities and legalities. Is it all OK?

I don't know what can go wrong here. All we are doing is to make somebody listen to music that we own, that's it. Friends come over to your place, you play your CDs. No body gets sued right ? Its pretty same.

Is this not pushing our friendliness a little too far? The idea of 'Right Now I am Listening To' is just that. It allows you see what people are listening too, and it is quite easy to sample the song or album. You can then decide whether you want to buy or not. There are over 400 hundred pages of listings there, and it will take you a couple of years to exhaust all that.

Even assuming I send a CD to you, what guarantees do I have that you will not copy the CD? The minute you do that, both the sender and the receiver become co-conspirators in a illegal activity.

Cheers

Errm, yes...I can browse a hell lot of lists on a hell lot of forums. I can browse last.fms of people all day. I can follow tonnes of blogs. Don't you think that's a bit mechanical ? Sure, everything is instant. Instant listens, instant downloads, instant delete...everything at your service. Its your personal preference if that's how you like to get your music. Actually that's how most of us get our music. All I was suggesting was a different...more human way of going around it. Not that its noble or distinct or whatever, but I thought it would be pleasing to receive a CD at your doorstep, from a fellow member and you could be surprised with what you get. I am not sure if that's over-friendly, but yeah I feel its slightly better than 24/7 TCP/IP handshakes & clicking on hyperlinks.

And regarding the guarantees...I think you are exaggerating the possibilities. Don't tell me you don't let your friends borrow your CDs(personal preferences aside) just because you think the moment your friend rips your CD, you and your friend become co-conspirators in an illegal activity and run the risk of landing up in jail.

These things happen on trust and good faith.

Exactly. I understand I haven't been here for long, but that aside...I am unable to understand this highly critical attitude.
 
@ Alcy
Dont think its YOUR idea and you being a new member most people are being critical of it. Dont even let that thought come to you. This is the most helpful forum you could ever belong.

But usually h/w & s/w are very dear to most of us and should be to you as well. Hence the going gets tough with ideas of sharing the cd with 'whoever'. I have very lovely friends here, but theres an code that prevails - 'if i lend i cant hear the notes too well'. So i 'assume' if that goes for me it goes for the others too ;) ..Hence a +1 to AE's view.

*Just in a mean mood. Pls dont take it to heart.

Yet you are most welcome to come over and get bored to death with the 'tings-tongs' that i listen to (thats how my dad puts it across while he addressed the piano notes i usually hear :lol:)
 
@ alcy : Your idea may be noble BUT I am of the principle "I don't Borrow & I don't Lend"

The idea is not noble. Its not new. Its not mine. There's a reason I posted the links in the title post. Anyway, if that's the way it is perceived...in terms of borrowing & lending, indeed the idea is epic fail.

@ Alcy
Dont think its YOUR idea and you being a new member most people are being critical of it. Dont even let that thought come to you. This is the most helpful forum you could ever belong.

But usually h/w & s/w are very dear to most of us and should be to you as well. Hence the going gets tough with ideas of sharing the cd with 'whoever'. I have very lovely friends here, but theres an code that prevails - 'if i lend i cant hear the notes too well'. So i 'assume' if that goes for me it goes for the others too ;) ..Hence a +1 to AE's view.

*Just in a mean mood. Pls dont take it to heart.

Yet you are most welcome to come over and get bored to death with the 'tings-tongs' that i listen to (thats how my dad puts it across while he addressed the piano notes i usually hear :lol:)

These ARE one of the most helpful forums I have come across. And I am grateful to the people who conceived the idea of HFV as well as the people who post here. No second thoughts on that.

Your mean mood is hardly mean ! C'mon...I am not taking anything of this to heart. Just a discussion (I'd rather be having the actual exchange going on already, but a debate is not that bad either ;) )

Thanks for the offer man. :cheers:
 
hey alcy, i don't think anyone is objecting to it on the basis that you're a new member, and I do think these are valid concerns. Some people don't like to part with their discs. There is definitely a risk of transit damage when the discs are in the hands of the indian postal sytem. The people on the list may be audiophiles who coddle their CDs, but the same can't be said of the postmen and handlers.

I don't like lending discs, but i suppose I am on the fence about this program. It sounds like a good idea, but the hassle of posting stuff is what is putting me off :) Yeah i'm bone lazy.

About the legality, I don't see a problem. It's non commercial gifting/lending/sharing between friends/acquaintances.....so even the Americans would probably have a hard time shooting this down legally :)
 
Also Alcy, you could assuag esome of the concerns by explaining the scheme better. Assuming it works as planned, you send out a CD and the chain goes around and you end up getting some other CD. So no one is at a net loss here.
 
hey alcy, i don't think anyone is objecting to it on the basis that you're a new member, and I do think these are valid concerns. Some people don't like to part with their discs. There is definitely a risk of transit damage when the discs are in the hands of the indian postal sytem. The people on the list may be audiophiles who coddle their CDs, but the same can't be said of the postmen and handlers.

I don't like lending discs, but i suppose I am on the fence about this program. It sounds like a good idea, but the hassle of posting stuff is what is putting me off :) Yeah i'm bone lazy.

About the legality, I don't see a problem. It's non commercial gifting/lending/sharing between friends/acquaintances.....so even the Americans would probably have a hard time shooting this down legally :)

Indeed. In fact, the links I posted in the title post are from American forums, and people successfully carried out this exchange in USA (and Europe too), without issues. So I also think legal issues here should be least concerning.

I don't have a well based opinion on the postal system. If indeed there's risk in it (even after we do our best to pack the CDs well), then without a doubt the exchange should not be carried out. But I am glad you like the idea. :)

I finally I thought I'd be less lazy from now on, but. ;)
 
OK Alcy - if it is all above board - what are we thinking about?

Start off with the CD exchange. You started off with the germ, its only fitting that you come up with more details, rules, whatever. Lets do it.

How many in Chennai are up for this? Goes without saying that I am game.
 
Also Alcy, you could assuag esome of the concerns by explaining the scheme better. Assuming it works as planned, you send out a CD and the chain goes around and you end up getting some other CD. So no one is at a net loss here.

Sure. The only concern is that people should not start getting paranoid if there are slight delays in receiving CDs. For that, frequent communication over PMs to notify of the changes should be done. An illustration of sorts, if you may: I send the CD to Mr.X, Mr.X PMs Mr.Y to ask for his address, Mr.X sends another CD to Mr.Y or sends the same CD I sent to him. Someone else sends me a CD, and the exchange continues. Also, each sender is notified about their CD, for tracking.

To ensure fluidity, groups can be made.

For eg., for a start we can divide groups by state or regions. We can have separate groups for Delhi/Mumbai/B'lore etc...or we can divide by regions like North India, South India etc. So lets say 5-10 people are in the North India group, they carry out their exchange among themselves. So do people in other groups.
 
OK Alcy - if it is all above board - what are we thinking about?

Start off with the CD exchange. You started off with the germ, its only fitting that you come up with more details, rules, whatever. Lets do it.

How many in Chennai are up for this? Goes without saying that I am game.

Thanks ! Have started the Chennai group in the title post. Will keep updating.
 
I think we should burn a CD of our favorite songs and send it to the next person....if we all are that noble, then the other person will buy the CD if he/she likes it......This way the artists also get their dues and we help promote their music....
I don't see any reason why I should send my original CD which I like and listen to it regularly, to someone else....In my humble personal opinion that is a dumb idea...

Yes, this idea works if we all send the CD which we don't like to someone else....as it is it is lying unused and it just might find someone who appreciates it.....
 
Then, I suggest that we should all switch off our TVs whenever we have guests coming over just incase they watch a movie on our TV on our Tatasky....
also we should not give lifts to people in our car since our cars are not registered as taxis.....
And we should not borrow books as well from friends and family....

My apologies for the sarcasm but as I mentioned in my earlier post, if we all are noble and righteous, then we will buy the CDs that we like else we simply pass it on....Even in the US where these laws were made, you can go and buy things and return them if you do not like them within a given time period....
So if I burn a CD of music which I think someone would like, and if that person is law abiding, they should buy that CD.
We are simply promoting the artist and their music by spending OUR money on the CD and the shipping for no monetery profit.

I would like to know your thoughts fellow members..........
 
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