How much can I get for a dead LCD set? Also help on buying a new flat panel

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Hi All,

Today the samsung engineer called and confirmed that the new panel for my 46incher 5 series LCD costs 31K and it only comes with one month warranty.

So its obvious I am not going with the replacement.

I need your advice on two things given this development:

(1) What resale value can I expect for this faulty panel TV? The samsung engineer suggested that I buy a new samsung tv and negotiate with the dealer for an exchange price - he said 10-15k may be possible

(2) Given my bad experience with flat panels I do not want to invest again heavily and for a price range of 70-75K, I think the Samsung 51E550 fits the bill. Not sure if we have any other comparable brand with that size for that price range. The 'good' panasonic plasmas with Neo panel and all that seems to cost atleast 25 K more?

(3) Also assuming that I take a 3 year additional warranty for 15K more from Samsung - and since this pushes up the price of a E550 to 85-90K mark - what comparable Panny set can I get? 50ST30 available at that range any more?

Please help me...Thx
 
i had a very bad experience with Panasonic plasma .. pls avoid plasma completely or for that matter any flat panel , see below..

its a huge loss..
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Dear

Pleasure talking to you today and your patient hearing to the concern we are facing currently, Pls find below details of my plasma tv Model TH-P50V20D / Bill no -885 / DOP 18 oct -2011 / Dealer Panasonic brand shop , kormangala , bangalore

I would like to bring to your notice that as per attached pictures of my Tv there is a spider web type breakin on the internal glass of the screen which happened all by itself with a buzz while tv was in operation for around 2-3 hours.

I was being told by the technician visiting us today ( while I complained under ref no 030899 ) that it is a physical damage which led to such a situation, we refute the claim STRONGLY as we were watching and suddenly the tv stopped working after a buzz ( we have no reason to be UNTRUE with facts here for sure.. ) . As i am made aware,such incidences are not new with plasma technology or with Panasonic or any other brands and failures do arise which have been reported by other plasma consumers earlier extensively EVEN in the threads below all over the world and is a very common problem due to poor wms

Quote 1
PLASMA CRACKED FROM INSIDE (spider web) - CNET Samsung Forums
Internal Crack on my TV panel - CNET Samsung Forums
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1401206/plasma-screen-cracked-panasonic-60s30
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1405049/internal-crack-on-my-46-panasonic-plasma
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1289851/p...g20-developed-internal-screen-crack-by-itself
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1401206/plasma-screen-cracked-panasonic-60s30#post_21811102
3/23/12 at 12:26pm confirmed the component failed
Reasons for a Plasma TV Screen to Crack | eHow.com
http://www.avsforum.com/t/986862/my-42-lg-plasma-screen-cracked
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1233575/plasma-internal-screen-cracked-by-itself-while-watching-tv
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1348871/new-lg-plasma-mystery-crack-inside
panasonic hd plasma - CNET Home audio & video Forums - similar case customer got refund immediately in this case knowing it is manufacturing defect
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1393327/new-plasma-cracked
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1135400/plasma-cracks

below quote 2 explains the situation further

Sometimes and internal component can suddenly blow with enough force to crack the plasma panel from behind. That would have been the loud boom (probably more like a pop or snap). It has historically happened mostly on Samsung and LG plasmas, and there have been a few reports of it happening on Panasonics as well.

the outer glass is intact and the inner (plasma) glass is what's broken, then that's good evidence that a component failure cracked the glass.

Boards fry, panels break.

Along with other serious researches and quotes as below

Quote 3

Thermal fatigue is the most important failure mode in plasma screen casting. Thermal fatigue cracks may be classified by their appearance in heat checks and stress cracks. The characteristic feature of heat checking is a net-shaped crack pattern which occurs predominantly on level surfaces due to change in surface tensile stresses. Stress cracks mainly appear as individual and clearly pronounced cracks as a result of stress concentrations due to the configuration of the cavity. Generally, thermal fatigue cracks will already appear after a few thousand cycles or even much earlier, i.e. in the low cycle fatigue regime.

Quote 4

Since glass is brittle and thermally insulating, significant thermal stresses, especially in larger components often lead to catastrophic failure. The warm expanded glass inside pushes outwards on the outer layers of glass, forcing them to be stretched with very little tolerance for being stretched and cannot expand very far without breaking. Any existing microscopic crack on a stretched surface will grow all the way through the thickness of the glass, abruptly.

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We have bought this unit on LOAN and HARD earned money and had done a extensive research before finalizing Panasonic due to your extensive experience in manufacturing plasma screens and being superior to any other brand in terms of service and technology, it is fairly understood that it is a ONE ODD early technical failure and manufacturing defect of the screen and components which should be investigated thoroughly and is completely shattering our this belief currently and we seek your help to review our case with compassion and help replace / repair the unit earliest being just 10 months old and still covered under primary warranty and extended warranty of 2 years as well.

We have complete belief in the brand and its people backing it up and are sure we all superior std's of BRAND until now would be upheld.

Look forward to earliest swift resolution and response.

rgrds
 
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