Looking for the best price for a Klipsch RP 7.1.4 HT system.

[LaidToRest2020]

It is NOT a bad thing to get a better pricing on any product. It is really GOOD to get a better pricing on a product.

Since you do not understand and ask why in an open forum, I guess people are responding to this. It is not an argument but it is a discussion (hence the forum!) and I am sure you know the difference.

As the OP rightly put
1. Denon x3800h
D1 (dealer 1)- 130000 D2- 93900 D3- 105000

If the OP had not checked around D1 would be 38% more expensive compared to D2. This is why people check around (and should not be labelled as running behind pricing) and are happy to have a base price. In this case, it is the same product, no liquidation and if Denon AVR is a Mass market brand then so be it. I am not sure how this can be a discussion about price to performance vs price to product since we are talking about the same product.

BTW, your signature leads to me think that you are a dealer and I could be so wrong! If I am right, all members would appreciate it if you could mention it more explicitly so that it is understood the right way.

Dear OP, Unfortunate to know that you are on the receiving side of this cartel. D2 seems to be good with pricing in all except projector. Since the products are same, I would go with D2 unless the reputation or service of D2 is substantially poorer than D1.
IMO, all dealers, are more or less same. Many of them try to wash their hands when there is an actual need for service. I really hope you would not need a service with your purchases. Regarding projectors, check vividstorm.in for newer projectors with better laser engines (I would go only for laser + optical zoom at minimum) and Horizon 20 series ticks all the bells. Valerion is great but they are asking more premium.

All the best!

Thanks, I have actually forgot to mention that one of the dealers called [the distributor of Denon], to try to match the Denon rates, which pissed of the distributor so much that he actually called us up and gave us an earful (for getting better rates) and when we told them we would only buy from the local authorised dealer (who was in conference with us) he still proceeded to get mad and asked me to buy it from wherever I can find it for cheap and he will not give us warranty.

So apparently the distributor was furious that we managed to get good rates? But as you rightly pointed out, this does infact seem like a cartel, it is REALLY unfortunate that some members here are a part of it, and making it painfully obvious.

I personally have dropped the entire plan of buying an HT. Until I can find a dealer I can trust. And a system which costs close to atleast the US prices, unlike Klipsch.

I would also like to bring to notice the malpractice of Klipsch’s distributor, Cinebels, who made me a quotation at MRP, and then straightaway locked the system for any dealer to generate me another quotation. The quotations I managed had the dealers jump through hoops to get the prices. Cinebels themselves refused to provide me a better quote, they have priced the Onkyo RZ50 around 2.1L, and the RP 8000F II is priced more than twice of that of US.

If this isn’t cartelization, I don’t know what is.

 

[SatMumbai]

Thanks, I have actually forgot to mention that one of the dealers called [the distributor of Denon], to try to match the Denon rates, which pissed of the distributor so much that he actually called us up and gave us an earful (for getting better rates) and when we told them we would only buy from the local authorised dealer (who was in conference with us) he still proceeded to get mad and asked me to buy it from wherever I can find it for cheap and he will not give us warranty.

So apparently the distributor was furious that we managed to get good rates? But as you rightly pointed out, this does infact seem like a cartel, it is REALLY unfortunate that some members here are a part of it, and making it painfully obvious.

I personally have dropped the entire plan of buying an HT. Until I can find a dealer I can trust. And a system which costs close to atleast the US prices, unlike Klipsch.

I would also like to bring to notice the malpractice of Klipsch’s distributor, Cinebels, who made me a quotation at MRP, and then straightaway locked the system for any dealer to generate me another quotation. The quotations I managed had the dealers jump through hoops to get the prices. Cinebels themselves refused to provide me a better quote, they have priced the Onkyo RZ50 around 2.1L, and the RP 8000F II is priced more than twice of that of US.

If this isn’t cartelization, I don’t know what is.

Thank you for the detailed update! This seems to be a growing trend eveyrwhere in India and in all industries. "Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish" India is getting slowly westernized (dramitization from my end) that people rather not sell or offer service and sit on stock / idle as it seems either they are satiated or being arm twisted.

Small anectode from Goa.. 4 of us on beach, 20 years back would get a massage for 100 each and now the guy wants 1200 per person where as many Spas on the street is offering for 999/- and this guy rather not take business and sit idle as well as discouraged another one from offering a massage at a discounted rate. It is not the same industry but I am seeing it everywhere these days.

Even I canned the idea of HT at home with in wall speakers as it seems too much trouble to get things sorted at all levels

Since you have a decent music setup, may be you can try a soundbar and see if it fits your needs.

Hopefully all these dealers will come down from their high horses but I doubt it

Sorry for bringing gloom into our forum but hope there is light at the end of tunnel if not via AV setup but quality of life improvement with time and money savings!

PS: Best part is the drop in large TV prices is amazing and a great 100" tv is with in reach for most of us who can afford a projector and a screen!

 

[LaidToRest2020]

Thank you for the detailed update! This seems to be a growing trend eveyrwhere in India and in all industries. "Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish" India is getting slowly westernized (dramitization from my end) that people rather not sell or offer service and sit on stock / idle as it seems either they are satiated or being arm twisted.

Small anectode from Goa.. 4 of us on beach, 20 years back would get a massage for 100 each and now the guy wants 1200 per person where as many Spas on the street is offering for 999/- and this guy rather not take business and sit idle as well as discouraged another one from offering a massage at a discounted rate. It is not the same industry but I am seeing it everywhere these days.

Even I canned the idea of HT at home with in wall speakers as it seems too much trouble to get things sorted at all levels

Since you have a decent music setup, may be you can try a soundbar and see if it fits your needs.

Hopefully all these dealers will come down from their high horses but I doubt it

Sorry for bringing gloom into our forum but hope there is light at the end of tunnel if not via AV setup but quality of life improvement with time and money savings!

PS: Best part is the drop in large TV prices is amazing and a great 100" tv is with in reach for most of us who can afford a projector and a screen!

I am building a dedicated HT for the new house and will need a system sooner or later. But I’m only putting it on hold until I find an ethical dealer.

I really don’t want to get ripped off, so I guess I will “run behind prices”

 

[mahaaprasaad]

This seems to be a growing trend eveyrwhere in India and in all industries. "Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish" India is getting slowly westernized (dramitization from my end) that people rather not sell or offer service and sit on stock / idle as it seems either they are satiated or being arm twisted.

sorry for the off topic....similar experience by me, but related to other important service.. Last year, I was at Jayadeva hospital for a heart checkup, when I want to reach nearest metro(2.5 Kms), asked autowallas near the gate to drop me,, there were around 5-6 autos, all are stated Rs. 150, no meter, no bargain. They went on enjoing their mobile phone, without even looking at me. I then gone with Ola app and got a ride at Rs. 65, but after struggling 20 minutes and few cancellation. Everybody know, the jayadeva hospital is for poor and for common people, the autowalas are also not rich and verywell aware that, they are at a point of serving where it is highly essential. But why they do like this? Not all are bad, but many.

 

[Amarendra]

I am building a dedicated HT for the new house and will need a system sooner or later. But I’m only putting it on hold until I find an ethical dealer.

I really don’t want to get ripped off, so I guess I will “run behind prices”

Why don’t you talk to Hifimart, Avshack and Ooberpad ? You may not get the same brands but you can build your HT easily.

 

[LaidToRest2020]

I’m in talks with AVshack. Their prices at too good.

 

[vishalrao]

I’m in talks with AVshack. Their prices at too good.

Hopefully not the case of "too good to be true" ? Just be wary of any gotchas/caveats !

 

[LaidToRest2020]

Hopefully not the case of "too good to be true" ? Just be wary of any gotchas/caveats

The prices of speakers are at par, But Denon x3800h is priced at 93k, which I'm assuming is not from an authorised distributor, they claim it comes with warranty but I highly doubt it.

Anyways, since the authorised sellers are quoting 40% extra, i can let go of a limited, 1 year warranty.