Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demands

[srisaikat]

I hope most of us will agree that love for the music itself should comes first rather than the audio gears, So watching the thread "Songs with great soundstage", suddenly an idea came to my mind to start a thread which will be dedicated to the songs or tunes which are almost independent of the quality of source component, sound stage and other audiophile filters, that mean the tune or voice or the composition itself is so magical that you will forget anything else, I mean you will just forget to judge the sound. The performance will compel you to just enjoy the music. I found many old Hindi and Bengali as well as some old English composition within this category. So here is a list (1st installment) for which in my opinion you need not to be an audiophile. I know great source material and component will give you greater pleasure like bonus, but they are almost independent of the quality of source components like mentioned earlier. I am inviting other FM to come forward and contribute to this list. Most tracks of the list are between 5ts and 7ts and in mono. There may be some mistakes, but you are most welcome to make any correction. I hope it will be handy especially for younger generation-

Asha - Waqt - Aage Bhi Jaane Na Tu - 1965
Md. Rafi - Aadmi - Aaj Purani Rahon Se 1968
Lata Mangeshkar - Baharon Ke Sapne.com - Aaja Piya Tohe Pyar Doon - 1967
Md. Rafi - Neel Kamal - Aaja tujhko pukare mera pyar - 1968
Manna Dey - Bhoot Bungla - Aao Twist Karen - 1965
Lata - Anpadh - Aap ki najar ne samjha - 1962
Asha - Howrah Bridge - Aayiye Mehrban Baithiye - 1958
Rafi, Asha - Hum Dono - Abhi Na Jao Chod Kar - 1961
Mahendra kapoor - Baharen Phir Bhi Aayengi - Badal Jaye Agar Mali - 1966
Md. Rafi - Dosti - Chahoonga mein tujhe - 1964
Mahendra Kapoor - Gumrah - Chalo Ek Baar - 1963
Mukesh - Saraswati Chandra - Chandan sa badan - 1968
Md. Rafi - CHAUDHVIN KA CHAND - Chaudhavin ka chand ho - 1960
Rafi, Lata - Jewel Thief - Dil Pukare Aare Aare - 1967
Rafi - Guide - Din Dhal Jaye - 1965
Rafi - Kashmir Ki Kali - Diwana Hua Badal - 1964
Lata - Bahu Begam - Duniya Kare Sawal - 1961
Rafi - Junglee - Ehsaan Tera Hoga - 1961
Lata Mangeshkar - Chhote Nawab - Ghar Aaja Ghir Aye - 1961
Rafi - Kashmir Ki Kali - Hai Duniya Usiki - 1964
Lata, Talat - Chhaya - Itna na mujhse tu pyar - 1961
Lata - Anpadh - Jiya Le Gayo Ji Mora Sanwariy - 1962
Mohd. Rafi - Kala Bazar - Khoya Khoya Chand - 1960
Mahendra Kapoor - Hamraaz - Kisi Pathar Ki Moorat Se - 1967
Muhammad Rafi - Koi Sagar Dil Ko Behlata Nahin - Dil Diya Dard Liya
Lata - Anupama - Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - 1966 - Other
Lata Mangeshkar - Baharon Ke Sapne - Kya Janoon Sajan - 1967
Md. Rafi - Guide - Kya Se Kya Ho Gya - 1965
Lata - Woh Koun Thi - Lag Ja Gale Se - 1964
Manna Dey - Dil Hi To Hai - Laga_Chunari_Mein_Daag - 1963
Mahendra Kapoor - Kismat - Lakhon Hain Yahan Dilwale - 1968
Mohd. Rafi - KOHINOOR - Madhuban Mein Radhika Nache - 1960
Md Rafi - Hum Dono - Main Zindagi Ka Saath - 1961
Mahendra kapoor - Yeh Raat Phir Na Aayegi - Mera Pyar Woh Hai - 1965
Kishore - Mr X In Bombay - Mere Mehboob Qayamat Hogi - 1964
Kishore Kumar - Do Raaste - Mere Naseeb Mein Aye Dost - 1969
Kishore Kumar - Padosan - Mere Samne Wali Khidki - 1968
Hemant Kumar - Baat Ek Raat Ki - Na Tum Humein - 1962
Mahendra Kapoor - Hamraaz - Neele Gagan Ke Tale - 1967
Lata Mangeshkar - Chandan Ka Palna - O Ganga Maiya - 1967
Asha Bhonsle - Teesri Kasam - Paan Khaye Saiyan Hamaro - 1966
Lata - Guide - Piya Tose Naina Lage - 1965
Manna Dey - Pucho Na Kaise Maine - 1963
Lata - Mamata - Rahen na rahen - 1966
Lata - Jewel Thief - Rula Ke Gaya - 1967
Lata - Guide - Saiyan Beimaan - 1965
Mukesh, Lata - Milan - Sawan Ka Mahina - 1967
Lata - Aaye Din Bahaar Ke - Suno Sajna - 1966
Rafi - Kashmir Ki Kali - Taarif Karu Kya Uski - 1964
Rafi - Guide - Tere Mere Sapne - 1965
Md. Rafi - Jab Pyar Kisise Hota Hai - Teri Zulfon Se Judai - 1961
Kishore - Jhumroo - Thandi Hawa Yeh Chandani Suhani - 1961
Mahendra kapoor - Hamraaz - Tum Agar Saat Dene Ka Wada Kar - 1967
Kishore Kumar & M. Rafi - Pyar Ka Mousam - Tum Bin Jaoon Kahan - 1969
Manna Dey Lata Mangeshkar - Sati Savitri - Tum gagan ke chandrama ho - 1964
Hemant Kumar - Khamoshi - Tum Pukar Lo - 1969
Md. Rafi - Teesri Manzil - Tumne Mujhe - 1966
M. Rafi & Lata Mangeshkar - Abhilasha - Wadiyan Mera Daman - 1968
S D Burman - Guide - Wahan Kaun Hai Tera - 1965
Kishore - Khamoshi - Woh Sham Kuchh Ajib - 1969
Hemant Kumar - Kohraa - Ye Nain Dare Dare - 1964
Lata - Jab Jab Phool Khile - Ye Sama - 1965
Asha Bhosle - Mere Sanam - Yeh Hai Reshmi - 1965
Rafi - Barsaat Ki Raat - Zindegi Bhar - 1960

 

[haisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

These are indeed golden songs. However in my opinion the songs in the 50s did not have that edge over recording quality that we get for songs of 70s onwards (Pink Floyd era). So if you do not get any additional benefit of using a high resolution audio system due to either the recording quality limitation or the lack of details (imparted into the track) which we otherwise are anxious to hear in modern tracks (eg:- sound of birds in the background in Bassotronics, Bass I love you).

To me many songs of 50s sound alike even on Medium Wave Vivid bharathi as on sound systems.

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

I get your point, but these compositions or tune are so touching and my mind get so involved in a way that I just forget how they are sounding, through which medium I am listening! Yes, I have a dream too to enjoy all those tracks using decent TT & Tube amp. I do not think it will be possible in near future. So sad! Sourcing those individual tracks in decent condition will be most hard part.

However I am going to share the 2nd list as soon as possible.

Edit:
Here is 2nd part of the list -

Md. Rafi - Loafer - Aaj Mausam Bada - 1973
Kishore & Lata - Ghar - Aapki Aakhon Mein Kuch - 1978
Manna Dey & Archana - Budha Mil Gaya - Aayo Kahan Se - 1971
Lata Mangeshkar - Dil Apna Aur Preet Parai - Ajeeb Dastan Hai Yeh - 1960
Hariharan - Gaman - Ajeeb Sa Neha - 1979
Lata - Bobby - Ankhiyon Ko Rahne De - 1972
Amit K, Rajani Sharma - Balika Badhu - Bade Acche Lagte Hai - 1976
Lata, Kishore - Heera Panna - Bahut Door Mujhe Chale - 1973
Asha - Pran Jaye Par Vachan Na Jaye - Chain Se Humko Kabhi - 1974
Kishore Kumar & Lata Mangeshkar - Lakhon Mein Ek - Chanda O Chanda - 1971
Kishore Kumar - Amar Prem - Chingari Koi Bhadke - 1971
Lata - Aap Ki Kasam - Chori Chori Chupke Chupke - 1974
Kishore Kumar - Gambler - Churi Nahin Ye Mera Dil Hai - 1971
Kishore Kumar - Mere Jeevan Saathi - Deewana leke aaya hain - 1972
Kishore Kumar - Paraya Dhan - Dil Haye Mera Dil - 1971
Lata - Heer Raaanjha - Do Dil Toote Do Dil Hare - 1970
S.D.Burman - Amar Prem - Doli Mein Bithay Ke - 1971
Manna - Saudagar - Door Hai Kinara - 1973
Lata - Shor - EK PYAR KA NAGMA - 1972
Asha - Johny Mera Naam - Husn Ke Lakhon Rang - 1970
Kishore - Anurodh - Jab Dard Nahni Tha Seene - 1977
Yashudas & - Chitchor - JAB DEEP JALE AANA - 1976
Kishore - Safar - Jeevan se bhari - 1970
Kishore - Tapasya - Jo Rah Chuni Tune - 1975
Yashudas - Swami - Ka Karoon Sajni - 1977
Mukesh - Kabhi Kabhi - Kabhi Kabhi Mere - 1976
Manna - Anand - Kahin Door Jab Din Dhal Jaye - 1970
Rafi - Khilona - Khilona Jaan Kar - 1970
Kishore Kumar - Joshila - Kiska Rasta Dekhe - 1973
Mukesh - Kabhi Kabhi - Main Pal Do Pal Ka - 1976
Mukesh - Bobby - Main Shair To Nahin - 1972
Md. Rafi - Chitralekha - Man re tu kahe na dheer dhare - 1964
Lata - Pakeezah - Mausam Hai Aashiqana - 1971
Mohammad Rafi - Gambler - Mera mann tera pyasa - 1971
Lata - Saathi - Mere Jeevan Shathi - 1972
Lata - Mere Mehboob - Mere Mehboob Tujhe - 1963
Mohd. Rafi - Mere Mehboob - Mere Mehboob Tujhe - 1963
Geeta Dutta - Anubhav - Mujhe Jaan Na Kaho 1971
Kishore Kumar - Khushboo - O Majhi Re - 1975
Lata - Swami - Pal bhar mein yeh kya - 1977
Lata & Kishore Kumar - Heera Panna - Panna Ki Tamanna - 1973
Lata - Imtihaan - Roj Shaam Aati - 1974
Kishore - Imtihaan - Ruk Jana Nahi- 1974
Lata - Khilona - Sanam Tu Bewafa - 1970
Suresh Wadkar - Gaman - Seene Mein Jalan - 1979
Aarti & Jaspal Singh - Geet Gaata Chal - Shyam Teri Bansi - 1975
Mukesh - Mukti - Suhani Chandni Raatein - 1977
Kishore Kumar - Aa Gale Lag Jaa - Tera Mujhse (Male) - 1973
Lata - Priyatama - Tere Bin Kaise Din - 1977
Rafi, Lata - Abhimaan - Teri Bindiya Re - 1973
Md. Rafi - Hawas - Teri Galiyon Mein - 1974
Yashudas - Sawan Ko Aane Do - Teri Tasveer Ko - 1979
Lata - Reshma Aur Shera - Tu Chanda Main Chandni - 1971
Asha Bhosle - Doosri Sita - Tu Jahan Mile Mujhe - 1974
Manna Dey - Baawarchi - Tum bhin jeevvan - 1972
Lata, Manna De - Sati Savitri - Tum gagan ke chandrama ho - 1973
Lata Mangeshkar, Mohd Rafi - Haath Ki Safai - Wada Karle Saajna - 1974
Kishore - Swami - Yaadon Mein Woh - 1977
Mukesh - Chhoti si baat - Ye Din Kya Aaye - 1975
Lata Mangeshkar - Khandaan - Ye Mulakat ek bahana hai - 1979
Kishore - Piya Ka Ghar - Yeh Jeevan Hai - 1972
Rafi - Mehboob Ki Mehndi - Yeh Jo Chilman Hai - 1971
Kishore - Amar Prem - Yeh Kya Hua - 1971
Kishore - Dil de mile dil - Yeh naina yeh kajal - 1978
Manna De - Anand - Zindagi Kaisi Hai - 1970
KIshore - Aap ki Kasam - Zindagi Ke Safar Main - 1975
Kishore Kumar - Safar - Zindgi Ka Safar - 1970
Kishore Kumar - Julie - Dil Kya Kare - 1975
Lata & Rafi - Jewel Thief - Dil Pukare Aa Re Aa Re - 1967
Lata - Khushboo - Ghar Jayegi Tar Jayegi - 1975
Kishore & Lata - Aandhi - Is Mod Pe Jate Hain - 1975
Kishore - Janemaan - Janeman Janeman - 1976
Kishore - Amar Prem - Kuchh To Log - 1971
Lata - Bandini - Mora Gora Ang Laile - 1963
Asha - Namkeen - Phirse Aaiyo Badra Bidesi - 1982
Kishore - Prem Pujari - Phoolon Ki Rang Se - 1969
Kishore - College Girl - Pyar Manga Hai Tumhi Se - 1978
Asha Bhosle - Jewel Thief - Raat Akeli Hai - 1967
Kishore - Jewel Thief - Yeh Dil Na Hota Bechara - 1967
Kishore Kumar - Prem Nagar - Yeh Lal Rang Kab Mujhe - 1974

 

[AVM]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

Hi Srisaikat
This should turn out to be a quick ref guide
+ Ghar - 1978

Regards,

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

Here is the 3rd Part of Hindi Movies Songs which you can enjoy without being audiophile. Tune, lyrics and voice will do the magic.

Aanewala Pal - Kishore Kumar - Gol Maal - 1978
Asha, R.D, Gulzar Speaks - Lata Mangeshkar & Bhupinder - Kinara - 1977
Bekarar dil tu gaye ja - Kishore Kumar, Sulakshana Pandit - Door Ka Raahi - 1971
Bhor Bhaya Panchhi - Lata Mangeshkar - Aanchal - 1980
chalo dildar chalo - Rafi, Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Chalte chalte - Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Chand Mera Dil - M. Rafi - Hum Kisise Kum Nahi - 1977
Chori Chori Solah Singar - Asha Bhosle - Manoranjan - 1977
Do Lafzon Ki Hai Dil - Asha Bholse & Amitabh Bachan - The Great Gambler - 1979
Ek Din Bik Jayega - Mukesh - Dharam Karam - 1975
Ek Main Aur Ek Tu - Asha Bhosle & Kishore Kumar - Khel Khel Mein - 1975
Hawa Ke Saath Saath Ghata Ke Sang Sang - Kishore Kumar & Asha - Seeta Aur Geeta - 1972
Hum Dono Do Premi - Lata Mangeshkar & Kishore Kumar - Ajnabee - 1974
Inhi logon ne - Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Jai Jai Shiv Shankar - Lata Mangeshkar & Kishore Kumar - Aap Ki Kasam - 1973
Kahin Karti Hogi - Lata Mangeshkar & Mukesh - Phir Kab Milogi - 1974
Kaun gali - PARVEEN SULTANA - Pakeezah - 1972
Koi Hamdam Na Raha - Kishore Kumar, Asha Bhosle, Chorus, Usha Mangeshkar - Jhumroo - 1961
Kya Nazare - Kishore Kumar - Jheel Ke Us Paar - 1973
Mausam Hai Aashiqanaa - Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Mere Naina Sawan - Kishore Kumar & Lata Mangeshkar - Mehbooba - 1976
Mora sajan - Vani Jairam - Pakeezah - 1972
Nazariya ki mari - Rajkumari Dubey - Pakeezah - 1972
Neend Churaye Chain - Lata Mangeshkar - Anuraag - 1972
O Hansini - Kishore Kumar - Zahreela Insaan - 1974
Rimjhim Gire - Kishore Kumar & Lata - Manzil - 1977
Saawan Ke Jhoole - Lata Mangeshkar - Jurmana - 1978
Sawan Ke Mahina Aa Gaya - Lata Mangeshkar & Kishore Kumar - Nehla Pe Dehla - 1976
Suhani Chandani Raaten - Mukesh - Mukti - 1977
Teer-e-Nazar - Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Tere Bina Zindagi Se - Lata Mangeshkar & Kishore Kumar - Aandhi - 1976
Thare rahiyo - Lata - Pakeezah - 1972
Tujhe Suraj Kahoon Ya Chanda - Manna Dey - Ek Phool Do Mali - 1969

 

[pmvali]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

Dear friend,

I do agree that the songs listed by you are very good compositions, There is difference in the quality depending on the music system on which these songs are played. I request you to listen the old film songs (mono) in RCA sound system employed in the theatres earlier. The song sounds full very with well balanced bass levels. The same song if played on a latest music system , it may not produce the same sound effect.

Let me cite one more example - that is . if an old ( originally recorded in mono) song is sung by the original artist and recorded using latest electronic gadgets, it sounds better and much more beautiful than the original.

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

I agree with you. But my object is here, making list of songs to enjoy music not to judge their sound.

 

[doors666]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

these songs are not independent of system etc... try a vinyl of the old hindi songs with a decent system, and compare with the 128kbps mp3 which is pretty much the standard fare on the net for old hindi stuff...

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

These songs became my favorite just listening them from Radio in childhood. It was the tune most important factor to choose them making the list. Most of the time I just forget the format when listen them. So they are selected based on my personal opinion and feelings or emotions, do not expect to be agreed by everyone.

Try youtube if you do not have any other source and check for yourself if I am wrong. You will be in immediate love with any track of those golden collections.

Start with these 3 songs, my personal favorite from film "GAMAN" which I believe little uncommon and most of the young generation (under 30 years) might never heard them.

Ajeeb Sa Neha - Hariharan - Gaman -1979

Seene Mein Jalan - Suresh Wadkar - Gaman -1979

Aap Ki Yaad Aati Rahi - Chhaya Ganguli - Gaman -1979 (This last one I forgot to enlist)

So when I hear songs like "Ajeeb Sa Neha", "Seene Mein Jalan", believe me I lost my consciousness on other factors except the composition.

Sorry, another three tracks I just missed from "Sargam" of 1979 - # Parbat ke us paar, # Dafli wale dafli baja, # Koyel boli duniya doli.

Making a 4th list would be better.

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

I agree, it is already told on my first post. If you choose great source and components that will be a bonus. As those tracks were mastered during analog age, so it is natural they will sound best on LPs.

 

[frend2001]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

Hi

This concept is really unique, I must say.

Now that you've brought this idea up, I agree that the songs you mentioned and many more are having the same effect upon you whether you play them over a cheap 2-in-1 or an elaborate setup.

Cheers

PS : Any song of Geeta Dutt would gain auto entry in such list.

 

[navinsinha]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

I agree, it is already told on my first post. If you choose great source and components that will be a bonus. As those tracks were mastered during analog age, so it is natural they will sound best on LPs.

+1 to what you have said. Just request you to add one song from Gumrah- Aap aye to khayale dile nashad aya, kitne bhule huge zakhmo ka pata yad aya.

Coming to very old songs (mono) kindly listen to K L Saigal sahib - Main kya janoo kya jadoo hai, you would simply love the song. Though it is on LP, this one sounds much better on a reasonably good 78 RPM system... my 2 cents!

 

[srisaikat]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

"Aap aye to khayale dile nashad aya" - very sweet song! Once again I request all respected members to share their favorite tracks which they think can be enjoyed with very basic system.

For last few of days I was enjoying these two great songs from two different generation.

1. 'Bole To Baansuri Kahin' by Yesudas from "Sawan Ko Aane Do" of 1979

2. 'Jalte Hein Jiske Liye' by Talat Mahmood from "Sujata" of 1959

From my very childhood I have been enjoying this two great songs, their tempo are completely different to each other, so it will be better (for full appreciation) if you listen them in two different session.

My feelings about 1st song- I always wish this 4 minutes will never end. Mind get set to a complete different plain or mode that it always become very difficult and take long time to get over it. At 2.19 when he (singer) utters the word 'bundo' then I can feel a real drop on my forehead. Great singing and music arrangement. Namaskar to Yesudasji from deepest corner of my mind.

Side note- If you have it on LP then that will be a real treatment to yourself. The CD version is quite close to crap, my sincere ingratitude (feeling very angry) to HMV saregama for taking such careless manner to this master piece while converting it on CD.

Now about 2nd song- What I can say? A very gentle, silky smooth voice which is quite unparallelled to compare, most of the time the track ends with some tears (see the video also). I wish I could meet the gentle soul or voice owner to know how gentle he was in personal life. Also I have to admit this song always reminds me how badly I am missing a tube amp these days.

Apology for little deviation from thread header, as these two songs require little care of source to appreciate them to their full potential (Applicable to others also).

Thanks for sharing same passionate love to music as I do.

 

[LaRa]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

Hello,

Wonderful selection of songs and as stated by the initiator of the thread, the songs just mesmerised you - you weren't bothered about dumb-dumb stuff like audio sound, output, Hz levels, blah-blah.... Sai mentions being drawn to a song by its tune ; for me, it was the voice of the artiste, music and lyrics - in that order. Whether it was listening to a variety of music on the hand-wound gramophone, spool tapes, electric gramophone, cassettes, and now CDs/MP3s - its the song that wins !! Though most of the RPG MP3s have LOUSY quality, I do buy them just for those few odd songs that have been released on MP3 - example : dhitang dhitang bole, Lata sings for Salil MP3 ; dil beqarar sa hai, Lata, Kalyanji Anandji MP3 ; saaze dil ched de, Lata and Rafi, Kalyanji Anandji MP3, etc.

Some of my favourite gems in the duets section -
Lata and Rafi - Taaron ki zaban par hai - Nausherwan-e-Adil
Lata - Tum kya jaanon tumhare pyar mein - Shin Shinaki Bubla Boo
Lata and Talat - Itna na mujhse tu pyar bada - Chaya
Lata and Geeta - Tha Thayya karte aana - Panchayat
Lata and Rafi - Sun Mere Saajna Re / Mahi o dupatta mera - Aansoo
Hemant and Geeta - Gumsum sa yeh jahan - Duniya Jhukti Hai
Lata and Shamshad - Bachpan ke din bhula na dena - Deedar
Lata and Amirbai - Gore gore o baanke chore - Samadhi
Lata and G.M. Durrani - Lara Lappa Lara Lappa - Ek Thi Ladki
Rafi and Suman - Parbaton ke pedon par - Shagoon
Asha and Shamshad - Reshmi shalwar - Naya Daur
Lata and Mahendra - Phool ban jaaongi - Pyar Kiye Jaa
Lata and Hemant - Chupa lo yun dil mein - Mamta
Lata and Mukesh - Humsafar mere humsafar - Poornima
Lata and Kishore - Khubsoorat diwana - Mr. X in Bombay
Lata and Manna Dey - Aaja Sanam / Yeh Raat bheegi - Chori Chori
Lata and Subir Sen - Gagan Ke chanda - Apne Huve Paraye
Lata and Dwijen Mukherjee - Ae dil kahan teri manzil - Maya
Lata and Asha - Sakhi Ri sun bole - Miss Mary
Rafi and Suman - Tehriye hosh mein aa loon - Mohabbat Isko Kahte Hain

and two solo gems, which to my knowledge, has never been released ( by
you know who ) on any format except maybe 78 RPM :

Lata - Dil ki duniya mein aake na jaana,
Tujhe meri kasam na rulaana,
Ya rabba pheri pheri, Ya rabba pheri pheri, Ya rabba pheri aaa...
from the film Chingari

Lata - Tirunilla Tirunilla Tirunilla la,
Gaaye lata, gaaye lata, gaaye lata aa,
pa ma sa ri...
No idea of the film. Its probably the only Hindi film song
where the singer anounces that he/she is singing......

 

[entsurgeon]

Re: Music which are independent of components, soundstage and other audiophile demand

LaRa for president , srisaikat for president elect :yahoo:

Hello,

Though most of the RPG MP3s have LOUSY quality, I do buy them just for those few odd songs that have been released on MP3 -.

..

in our zeal for hi fidelity etc etc etc, we somewhere forget the essesnce of music. listening to a great composition will always carry its own charm. think unplugged and informal hummings of a real good singer that we are blessed to have access to on youtube etc.
if you d look at the evolution of music in movies, it was always singer centric in the early period. so much so that even until late 50s, lots of songs would barely have much of accompaniment. this was the era of evolution of lyricists as well as music directors when they found their own niche and this was the point where hindi film music developed an identity of its own. it was mostly classical bandish derived stuff until late 40s.
then as more and more of raags and their variations got recorded, music directors started using different instruments as well as music arrangements so that they could come up with something new. remember the tune of nagin on spanish violin( imitating been)? that tune became the crux of whole song.
later on in 90s, most new songs were only a patch on previously used tunes but with different orchestration.
a great song would have great raag composition as well as great lyrics. being sung well, arranged well, recorded well and finally reproduced well on a great system is 10% of the charm barely. you would only notice em unless it was very very badly recorded or sung by a besura vocalist.
i wholeheartedly agree that great recording is not the only essence to music. it can only be cherry on the cake. i however prefer my plum cake sans icing.

I get your point, but these compositions or tune are so touching and my mind get so involved in a way that I just forget how they are sounding, through which medium I am listening! Yes, I have a dream too to enjoy all those tracks using decent TT & Tube amp. I do not think it will be possible in near future. So sad! Sourcing those individual tracks in decent condition will be most hard part.

radio announcer kabban mirza sang just 2 songs for movies. both in razia sultan. most people have heard aayi zanjeer ki jhankaar.
i d rather list his tera hizr mera naseeb hai as real great gem.
further off the top of my head-
dheere se aaja ri akhiyan me nindiya -albela

 

[arj]

This is a thread which deserves a 2nd Life ! what a collection above...

 

[Deleted member 15865]

This is a thread which deserves a 2nd Life ! what a collection above...

I’d not be surprised if the list goes into tens of thousands.... half the songs from 50s and 60s would qualify. Add those from other languages and you realise the exercise starts being futile due its inherent non-specificity.