The Resurgence of Wharfedales

[Mubeen]

@Mubeen:

The bass production is muddy and colored, the low extension missing.

auditioned with Carole king and Ben Webster.......the sound-stage is just ok and there is no depth.

the diamond 10.2 had better bass extension, the sound stage was deep and wide. more natural.

The diamond bookshelf's are VFM product, at this value they are a good speakers @ entry level

That's the word that would describe my observation - Muddy. I found the 10.1's bass to be less precise and clean than 9.1. Also i feel there are timing issues with the bass.

I have stuffed old socks in one of the rear port of the speaker. This has definitely helped to tighten the bass and cure the muddyness a bit. Others who might be facing similar issue can try plugging one of the rear port. Dont plug in both

 

[sound1]

Venkat Sir,

I have Aperion stereo setup and wharfedale center. How about exchanging the center speaker?

On an HT system consisting of Onkyo 875, an HTPC, 2x9.5, 2xDFS, Hsu VTF Mk2, and an Aperion Audio centre speaker.

Cheers

 

[denzong]

i am very happy with the performance of my whars.
i got 2 of them: 9.5 and evo8 and both are awesome
dont mind laying my hand on more of these babies

 

[venkatcr]

I have Aperion stereo setup and wharfedale center. How about exchanging the center speaker?

Maybe by end of this year. I may replace my complete speaker set with something like B&W. The operative word is MAY. I got the Aperion Audio centre for it's vertical array design.

Cheers

 

[gobble]

That's the word that would describe my observation - Muddy. I found the 10.1's bass to be less precise and clean than 9.1. Also i feel there are timing issues with the bass.

I have stuffed old socks in one of the rear port of the speaker. This has definitely helped to tighten the bass and cure the muddyness a bit. Others who might be facing similar issue can try plugging one of the rear port. Dont plug in both

I think this might have been because the light weight speaker vibrating on the surface. Put in on spikes, or 4 big lumps of local brand stik-on (like chewing gum) or blue-tack then check again without the stuffing.

--G0bble

 

[gobble]

Whats so great about vertical array for center channel?
The best things in life are enjoyed horizontal ... :licklips:

--G0bble

 

[baijuxavior]

Whats so great about vertical array for center channel?
The best things in life are enjoyed horizontal ... :licklips:

--G0bble

Sometimes we need variety...

 

[venkatcr]

Whats so great about vertical array for center channel?

The sound from the centre channel has to follow a narrow beam till it reaches your ears. If you line the drivers horizontally, you lose a lot of sound that gets dispersed to the sides. A line array design overcomes this problem by placing the drivers in a vertical array. This does create a bit of an issue as sound waves from the drivers interfere with each other, but a bulk of the dispersion to the sides are easily removed. As a result, a higher SPL reaches your ears allowing you to hear more of the centre channel sound without having to push the volume up.

In-wall speakers arrangements solve this issue easily by using a left or right channel speaker and placing that vertically in the middle to act as a centre channel. But, when you have to use external speakers, space constraints do not allow you to use a tall and vertically arrayed speakers. Many manufacturers solve this issue by designing a near vertical array of drivers within a cabinet that is used horizontally.

BTW, there are some very interesting vertical postures in the book that you are talking about.

Cheers

 

[square_wave]

I have experience with the 8 series (owned the 8.4 and 8.2 once). I have listened to the 9 series a number of times at friends systems.

Traditionally, the bookshelf speakers from this brand somehow circumvent the many vices that accompany speakers at this pricepoint.

One should not look for high resolution or pitch accurate - detailed bass etc.. from a speaker at this price point. It is unfair. The drivers and crossover design to accomplish such virtues are very costly.

Extreme VFM. That is where the buck stops for wharfedale !

 

[parora]

Hey Venkat,

Did you manage to audition 10.1s?

Cheers,