Components for using PC as source

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Hi,
Please let me know what are the components I have to get for using PC as source. I am very new to this and your valuable suggestions will be very helpful to me.
Thanking You.
 
I think a decent soundcard + a DAC would be adequate(obviously will need an amp &speakers etc :) ),but,depending on the price you are willing to spend there are more expensive routes .There are people who run a Mac (Mac mini) for music duties rather using a PC.

I guess if you were to post your price range that would help some of the more knowledgeable forum members to air thier opinions/advice etc.
 
Hi,
I am willing to spend upto Rs.50,000/-. Moreover, I have a few numbers of Concert DVDS. Please let me know whether I can play DVDs thro. PC set up.
Thanking You.
 
Hi,
I am willing to spend upto Rs.50,000/-. Moreover, I have a few numbers of Concert DVDS. Please let me know whether I can play DVDs thro. PC set up.
Thanking You.

You will be able to play DVDs on a PC setup but it also depends as to whether you want to listen in a stereo mode to the DVD or listen in a 5.1/7.1 etc and this will impact on the type of amps etc.

Normally,when you compare an AV receiver with a stereo amp at the same price point the stereo amp's audio qualities will be miles ahead. So you need to consider these aspects as well.
 
A really decent card, internal or external, would already have a decent DAC. What's more, it would have a really decent ADC too.

I thought that in order to have a coaxial/optical output (if the USB port wasn't used for audio) a decent sound card would be needed and this could be connected to a DAC for eg Beresford DACs maybe. I have only used my USB lead into the DAC and it seemed quite good for me....
 
Hi,
Please let me know what are the components I have to get for using PC as source. I am very new to this and your valuable suggestions will be very helpful to me.
Thanking You.

It depends on your purpose.
1. If you want only HTPC,you need a Graphiccard(with HDMI) which can handle HD-audios.
2. If you want Music PC,then a good soundcard like Asus Xonar ST/STX.
3. If you need both(music + movies),get both OR get asus Xonar HDAV.
 
I thought that in order to have a coaxial/optical output (if the USB port wasn't used for audio) a decent sound card would be needed and this could be connected to a DAC for eg Beresford DACs maybe. I have only used my USB lead into the DAC and it seemed quite good for me....
If you already have an expensive DAC, then a digital output from your PC is all you are going to be concerned with. Your motherboard may provide one anyway. I do know that there is a big difference between onboard analogue sound (although it has improved enormously in past years) and a good audio interface. I don't know if the same thing applies to digital sound (it's digital, isn't it?).

I see no point in unplugging your USB connection and replacing it with a board/coax-or-optical. You are just taking a different route to do the same thing.

What is a DAC, anyway? it is half a sound card. Why? because it only does output: a sound card will have a ADC too and handle input.

DAC manufacturers are winning a marketing war. It is becoming assumed to be a necessary component on the hifi shelf. That is not to say that non-one should buy one: far from it, a good DAC may be exactly what many people need!

This is my take...

Once upon a time there was the sound card. It fitted inside your machine, in an expansion slot, and its output quality was not what anyone would call hifi*. Companies manufactured higher-end offerings, and the difference in quality was stunning. Then motherboard manufacturers started to include most of the basics (LAN, graphics, sound...) on the motherboard itself, and there was no need for those add-in boards. Still, for both audio and graphics, many preferred, and still do, to use add-in cards rather than the onboard facilities.

At some time in this history, other methods of connecting a "sound board" to a PC came into existence and then achieved reliability. Thus, sound boards became split into "internal" and "external". External "soundcards" were/are mostly USB, with some higher-end (or Mac?) equipment being Firewire.

As the technology moved on, so did the jargon, and I don't believe we should talk about sound cards any longer: we should talk about audio interfaces! There are very few instances in which I approve of replacing two syllables with seven, but this is one. Very often they are not actually cards anyway, and it opens the way to include the very, very wide range of capability and connectivity (not to mention price) that is available.

Here: take a look at some (over 200) audio interfaces, ranging in price from a few GBP to several thousand. I doubt if you'll find any DACs here, but only because studios usually need input before they need to consider output. A DAC is still an audio interface.

The point --- (at this point, at least ;)) is: why would you need an audio interface to connnect to your audio interface? Stick with the USB, because that is how many "sound cards" are gong to be connected anyway. Either spend money on a good audio interface, or spend money on a good audio interface ;).

Reasons for buying a DAC anyway:

--- you use it to convert digital output from several devices, because it is better than any of them. Just add the PC to the collection.

--- you like acquiring different bits of hifi/computer kit, connecting it up in different ways, making comparisons, perhaps finding different configurations that are best for specific tasks.

--- you mostly want the highest quality output you can afford from your PC, but occasionally need more-than-half-decent input too (this is an argument for buying the sound cards anyway :o)

--- probably more ;)

But remember, it is all audio interface of one sort or another: only spend money that you don't need to if you want to!


By the way... my quest is for a highish-end DAC/ADC. I want input too, but I don't need it sprouting either home-theatre multi-channels or studio mic/instrument/multichannel i/o.




*in fact, it was so bad that the words "Sound Blaster" still make some of us cringe.
 
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By the way... my quest is for a highish-end DAC/ADC. I want input too, but I don't need it sprouting either home-theatre multi-channels or studio mic/instrument/multichannel i/o.

Thad E Ginathom,Thank you for that detailed reply.What kind of a DAC are you considering ?

Something like the Scarlatti DAC etc eh ? ;)

dCS: Scarlatti DAC
 
No, I'm not considering a DAC, because I want the ADC side too!

For now, my RME card is seeing me through. I have an Echo Audiofire2 which should have been just right for me, and probably would have been if I'd stuck with Windows, but, as I lament here, Ubuntu, Firewire audio and I were just not made for each other.

If I was building a PC-as-source hifi, I'd be tempted to cut out the separate box, not necessarily at the PC end, but possibly at the amplifier end. Why not an amplifier with digital input?

Having lived very happily with my Cyrus amp for quite a few years, I find something like this very attractive.

There is just the little matter of it being four times the price I paid for my amp (which was then a half-price ex-demo offer). And I had a good job in those days! :o
 
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More in the realms of reality, this is something that could interest me. The Dr.DAC2 DX. It's name is misleading: it is an I/O device, with ADC as well as DAC. Now to see if people on the net have made it work with Linux...
 
Having lived very happily with my Cyrus amp for quite a few years, I find something like this very attractive.

I think Harmon Kardon has some amps with digital input . I had chance to buy a cyrus per/power combo but went for my existing LFD pre/power as LFD amps rarely crop up second hand. Will probably spend sometime in the cyrus room this year during the hifi shows to see whether the amps suits my tastes.
 
I think Harmon Kardon has some amps with digital input . I had chance to buy a cyrus per/power combo but went for my existing LFD pre/power as LFD amps rarely crop up second hand. Will probably spend sometime in the cyrus room this year during the hifi shows to see whether the amps suits my tastes.

Harman Kardon HK 990 has digital inputs.
 
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