Does 100% Copper = OFC ?

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Hi
Was going through Bandridge cables in mall. Saw connectors which was labelled as 100% copper. But nowhere mentioned that it is OFC.

So Does 100% Copper = OFC ?
Thanks
 
Probably no such thing as 100%-pure anyway. Go to enough decimal places and you'll find it isn't.

What's the thing with oxygen anyway? I have never seen any real reason why audio cables should be free of it.
 
Probably no such thing as 100%-pure anyway. Go to enough decimal places and you'll find it isn't.

What's the thing with oxygen anyway? I have never seen any real reason why audio cables should be free of it.

"Oxygen usko marne nahin dega aur copper usko jeena nahi dega" ... the result is a neutral SQ. :ohyeah:

The 0.0005% does the delicate balancing act ... :)

OFC also means Optical Fiber Cable so .. No, 100% copper is not OFC :D

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100% copper does not mean OFC

it just mean 100% copper with No other alloys in the Mix

BTW
100% copper is not possible
Copper will not draw or stay in wire form in 100%
there has to be an alloy addition

OFC
is the process of drawing and sheathing the copper

supposedly an oxygen free environment is used in the drawing and sheathing process
No oxygen means no corrosion

hence the importance of OFC

though when you cut the wire and expose the cable the corrosion will begin

hence factory terminated cables with WBT connectors that form an air seal
are the only true OFC cables
at least 99%

infact many belive that while terminating the cable one should not even touch the cable with bare hands
and use surgical gloves if possible
 
I'm not a metallurgist, but I would be surprised to see any common metal advertised as pure being absolutely pure. it's all in the decimal points.

If anyone wants to waste (or shorten!) cables to test this out, let them cut some. I'd be very surprised if they found any oxidation in the insulated part of the cable, and I'd be much more surprised if it was more than a surface effect.

If copper is exposed, then it is likely to oxidise anyway, as it will not be in oxygen-free air. It is also going to be subject to corrosion from other stuff in the air.

My oxygen-free V-d-H cables corroded at one connector and broke. My oxygen-not specified Cambridge Audio cables, of similar vintage, where I have looked, are clean and sound at the soldered joints. These cables are ten or fifteen years old, so I am not really upset at the VDH, even, although it would have been more expensive.

ten-plus years! Cease worrying about oxygen in the copper having any effect on the cable's longevity. Really.

many belive that while terminating the cable one should not even touch the cable with bare hands and use surgical gloves if possible

As an engineer, I'm sure you recognise that components to be soldered should be clean, and, in particular, grease-free. So hands-off is, in down-to-earth practical terms, not a bad idea. (Disclaimer: I'm lousy at electrical soldering, surgical gloves or not, but I can do the brazing-torch, red-hot silver or gold kind)

Many cables today are advertised as using "oxygen-free copper." OFC is popular in audio cables, and has begun to make inroads into the video cable market as well.

We all know, of course, that oxygen is bad for things made from copper. Copper oxidizes and turns green and flaky; in so doing, it loses its high conductivity and begins to fall apart. But the amount of oxygen present in conventionally annealed, non-OFC copper is so tiny that it simply isn't a factor in cable quality. We have cut into pieces of Belden coaxial cable twenty-five years old that have been used in radio transmission applications--and found them clean and bright, completely lacking any sign of oxidation. Modern coax is better still, with nitrogen-injected foam dielectrics that keep oxygen entirely away from the center conductor.

As it is with silver, there's nothing wrong with OFC; but electrically speaking, OFC wire is indistinguishable in audio and video applications from ordinary annealed copper wire.

...My favourite cable company :)
 
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I think people on this forum are very much obsessed with cables. Have people wondered what is the quality of wires within the preamp, amp, speaker crossover etc? There are so many other areas to improve in the audio setup at home which gives real, tangible results. But people are running after some illusive result and mental masturbation given by different cables.


Well, to each his own.
 
I think people on this forum are very much obsessed with cables. Have people wondered what is the quality of wires within the preamp, amp, speaker crossover etc? There are so many other areas to improve in the audio setup at home which gives real, tangible results. But people are running after some illusive result and mental masturbation given by different cables.


Manoj

Clever people in the art know how to make best use of the ladies on mood swings.....:ohyeah:
My hats off to them....!

Normally they have no idea about what and how things work inside the box. So they end up in doing all sort of tantrums they can play with, without paying any attention to other areas like you do.
The other areas are often left or are not even discussed. The improvements one can achieve from cables is less than what one can achieve from the choice of other components which are often neglected.
And Mr. Belief and his make-belief system are nothing but playboys. Hence ladies are taken for a great ride by pimps :D
 
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