Got Denon AVR-X7200W

[rajuisback]

Just upgraded my OnkyoTX-NR828 to the flagship reciever Denon AVR-X7200W..Need suggestions on Atmos speakers ,whether I can go for regular Book shelves and get it mounted on the Ceiling or do I have to go for specific Atmos Speakers..

 

[Aanuj]

Congrats! That's they very best around. About Atmos speakers look for the ones from Klipschband Definitive Technologies among the very very good ones. I heard ELAC is coming out with Atmos speakers and Yamaha has some budget ones so does Tannoy.

 

[elangoas]

Congrats on your AVR... How much did it cost?

Since your AVR supports both Atmos & DTS X, plan for a more flexible layout which adopts both...

No point mounting BS on ceiling.. Guess not reqd too.. Satellite speakers which can handle from 100 - 150Hz should do... You AVR has a much capable calibration system which will do the rest for you..

You may consider satellite speakers with high sensitivity and wall mounting capability, so that you can mount them on ceiling and tilt to your listening position. (or)

Consider add on Atmos speakers that can be placed on the front speakers and the surround speakers..

 

[Murlidher]

congrats. please share the seller and price.

I mounted JBL Control one on ceiling. Though add no atmos speakers are good, it depends upon room layout & ceiling type. It is better to have some mounted on top or atleast close to ceiling wall height instead of depending upon add on speakers.

 

[sdurani]

Congrats on the Denon 7200. When it comes to receivers, you've got the best of the best.

As for speakers: Atmos didn't change the physics of sound, just added height channels.

If you're going to use subwoofer(s) to reproduce the bass, then you just need bookshelf speakers all around to play back the sound above the crossover point.

You can even use them as height speakers by mounting them to the ceiling. I would resort to upfiring speakers (virtual height speakers) ONLY if you can't or won't do ceiling-mounted speakers.

 

[rajuisback]

congrats. please share the seller and price.

I mounted JBL Control one on ceiling. Though add no atmos speakers are good, it depends upon room layout & ceiling type. It is better to have some mounted on top or atleast close to ceiling wall height instead of depending upon add on speakers.

Hello MuralI .....I got this is from a dealer in hyderabad who is a close friend of mine ...it's a Demo piece used for a couple of hrs and again put in the original packaging. ..I got it for 1,35,000..it's purchased from Denon Authorised showroom...contact person is Mr.Ranga Rao ph???9246523112...And finally thanks for the suggestions

 

[kaptan]

Congrats. You now have an excellent flagship AVR which does all the latest 3D audio formats. You should now setup the speakers accurately to reproduce some great audio.:clapping::clapping:

I see that you are currently running single subwoofer in your setup. You should definitely add another subwoofer to create more balance towards the other speakers.

 

[rajuisback]

Hello Kaptan Saab..Thankyou...I do agree that I need 2 Sub-woofers but my Room size is just 1210 ft and adding another sub would be an overkill

 

[Aanuj]

That price is excellent. Congrats once again.

 

[RajithKumar]

Congrats you got an Flagship receiver for the best price.
x7200 has an universal speaker layout system for ATMOS,DTS X & AURO 3D .
Refer to this link
http://www.denon.com/DtsxUpdate/DTS...X Update Insertion De 8003_ENG_AVRX7200WA.pdf

FM please suggest how to mount an height speakers inclined downwards .Any special brackets available for satellite /bookshelf speakers .
In case If I want to mount Zensor 1 in the height is it recommendable? how to make inclined/tilted downwards to listening position.

 

[sdurani]

I do agree that I need 2 Sub-woofers but my Room size is just 1210 ft and adding another sub would be an overkill

It's not overkill. No matter how many subs you use, that channel will still be calibrated to the same level as every speaker. So 20 subs won't be louder than 2 subs.

Multiple subs help improve the bass response, resulting in fewer/smaller peaks and dips. Smoother, clearer, tighter bass is never overkill, no matter how small your room.

 

[elangoas]

As for speakers: Atmos didn't change the physics of sound, just added height channels.

I hope you are referring to the overhead speakers (Ceiling) and not front heights.

If you're going to use subwoofer(s) to reproduce the bass, then you just need bookshelf speakers all around to play back the sound above the crossover point.

You can even use them as height speakers by mounting them to the ceiling. I would resort to upfiring speakers (virtual height speakers) ONLY if you can't or won't do ceiling-mounted speakers.

Do you mean mounting BS on ceiling? Wouldn't a 2-way satellite speakers do the job for ceiling speakers?

 

[sdurani]

I hope you are referring to the overhead speakers (Ceiling) and not front heights.

Front Heights is not a speaker but one of 5 locations above the listener in the home Atmos format: Front Height, Top Front, Top Middle, Top Rear, Rear Height. When rajuisback sets up his Denon 7200, the speaker configuration menu will give him a choice of picking 2 of those 5 locations (as long as they are not adjacent).

There's no such thing as a "height speaker". ANY speaker can be used in those 5 locations. Different Atmos locations don't require different types of speakers.

If you're watching the movie Gravity in Atmos, and George Clooney's voice goes from a speaker in front of you to a speaker above you, his voice shouldn't change suddenly. One way to keep his voice consistent is to use the same speaker at both locations. The best home Atmos systems I've heard use 11 of the same speaker, with subwoofers taking care of the low frequencies.

Do you mean mounting BS on ceiling? Wouldn't a 2-way satellite speakers do the job for ceiling speakers?

I've never drawn an arbitrary line between speaker sizes in order to differentiate between "BS" and "satellite". In a subwoofer/satellite system, ANYTHING that isn't the subwoofer is (by definition) the satellite. That can be anything from a large floorstander to a tea-cup sized bookshelf speaker. They're considered the satellite because they're not the other part of a sub/sat system (the subwoofer).

My point was that, IF the bass is going to be handled by subwoofers anyway, why waste money on floorstanding speakers? You basically need speakers to take care of the part above the crossover. Smaller speakers can handle that. The advantage being that those same speakers can be used at locations around you and above you, giving you excellent consistency across the ENTIRE soundfield.

 

[elangoas]

Front Heights is not a speaker but one of 5 locations above the listener in the home Atmos format: Front Height, Top Front, Top Middle, Top Rear, Rear Height. When rajuisback sets up his Denon 7200, the speaker configuration menu will give him a choice of picking 2 of those 5 locations (as long as they are not adjacent).

There's no such thing as a "height speaker". ANY speaker can be used in those 5 locations. Different Atmos locations don't require different types of speakers.

When i was setting up my non Atmos Onkyo 818 AVR, it had front heights & front wide's.. Hence the question..

Front height location on non Atmos AVR used to just under the ceiling (Dolby PL II z, DTS Neo X)

So the front height on non Atmos is not the same on Atmos AVR? I mean is there change in location..

If you're watching the movie Gravity in Atmos, and George Clooney's voice goes from a speaker in front of you to a speaker above you, his voice shouldn't change suddenly. One way to keep his voice consistent is to use the same speaker at both locations. The best home Atmos systems I've heard use 11 of the same speaker, with subwoofers taking care of the low frequencies.

So standarad 5 speaker layout + 6 speaker on the ceiling for Atmos ? VoW.. 6 speakers should sound really great...

I've never drawn an arbitrary line between speaker sizes in order to differentiate between "BS" and "satellite". In a subwoofer/satellite system, ANYTHING that isn't the subwoofer is (by definition) the satellite. That can be anything from a large floorstander to a tea-cup sized bookshelf speaker. They're considered the satellite because they're not the other part of a sub/sat system (the subwoofer).

Got it...A BS can handle more bass than a Satellite would do...When a sub is taking care of the LFE's, a 2 way satellite should do the job than what a BS would do.. Most satellite's are small & compact speaker without hogging too much on ceiling..

My point was that, IF the bass is going to be handled by subwoofers anyway, why waste money on floorstanding speakers? You basically need speakers to take care of the part above the crossover. Smaller speakers can handle that. The advantage being that those same speakers can be used at locations around you and above you, giving you excellent consistency across the ENTIRE soundfield.

Perfect..Same opinion here..

 

[sdurani]

Front height location on non Atmos AVR used to just under the ceiling (Dolby PL II z, DTS Neo X)

So the front height on non Atmos is not the same on Atmos AVR? I mean is there change in location..

If you download the Atmos install guide from Dolby's website, it states:

"The left front height and right front height speakers should be mounted on the front wall (instead of on the ceiling)..."

Same as your description for non-Atmos heights. So no change in location for front heights.

So standarad 5 speaker layout + 6 speaker on the ceiling for Atmos ?

No, wasn't talking about the number of speakers, merely saying that using the same speakers around you and above you will help maintain consistent sound. When a helicopter moves from in front of you to above you, it shouldn't suddenly sound like an egg beater.

A BS can handle more bass than a Satellite would do...When a sub is taking care of the LFE's, a 2 way satellite should do the job than what a BS would do.. Most satellite's are small & compact speaker without hogging too much on ceiling..

Understood. But that's your usage of those words. Where I come from, a satellite is ANY speaker in a sub/sat system that isn't the sub. Has nothing to do with speaker size or how much bass it can handle.