Harbeth speaker owners in India
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I also found Absolute Phase :: For the True Audio Connoisseur selling Harbeth in Bangalore. Does someone know what will the price difference? It is better to get it directly from SG or UK?
panditji
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Spendors are too sweet...I had bought the S3/5R2 speakers brand new but decided to go for used Harbeths which were a little more expensive and returned the Spendors....
They are again lovely to listen to but add a lot of strong colour/sweetness to the sound and cannot be termed analytical as LS3/5a were designed to perform...
Harbeths are good for listening at all levels as they always make me want to increase the volume and therefore cannot comment how they sound at lower volumes....
I would suggest that headphones should be used by people wanting to listen at low volumes if neighbors/family create problems for decent volumes level music...no point buying a loudspeaker as they are meant to be played loud (;-)
They are again lovely to listen to but add a lot of strong colour/sweetness to the sound and cannot be termed analytical as LS3/5a were designed to perform...
Harbeths are good for listening at all levels as they always make me want to increase the volume and therefore cannot comment how they sound at lower volumes....
I would suggest that headphones should be used by people wanting to listen at low volumes if neighbors/family create problems for decent volumes level music...no point buying a loudspeaker as they are meant to be played loud (;-)
Panditji, as you had listened through S3/5R2, which types of music was good by that? Which genre of music not suitable to S3/5R2?
Thank you.
sunder.
panditji
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Sundar, my apologies I meant the SP2/3R speakers when I compared with the Harbeths....The S3s are superb little monitors but the Spendor sound is a little too sweet...
All genres were enjoyable with Spendors but the Harbeths and Pro Acs are more analytical and detailed...
All genres were enjoyable with Spendors but the Harbeths and Pro Acs are more analytical and detailed...
panditji
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Would be nice if someone can refer us to a Spendor owner in Delhi/NCR...HFV member Soumen has a Harbeth P3ESR and a ProAc Response SC/Tablette and if someone has a Spendor S3, we could easily compare all 3 in Delhi....
For bigger monitors, we need owners of the Spendor SP2/3R and ProAc D1/D2 to compare with the Harbeth Compact 7ES3...would be fun and informative for a number of people....My house in Faridabad can be the venue...
For bigger monitors, we need owners of the Spendor SP2/3R and ProAc D1/D2 to compare with the Harbeth Compact 7ES3...would be fun and informative for a number of people....My house in Faridabad can be the venue...
Among all the current production Harbeth speakers I have heard (that includes compact 7es3 and shl5) I like the p3es the most. I have also heard original Harbeth LS 3/5 and that is totally on a different level altogether. It was really special.
panditji
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I agree Abhi....The P3ES does what it's supposed to do the best....As I said earlier, for a small room lesser than 120 Sq feet, it is a fantastic speaker.... The Compact 7ES3 and SHL5 are for bigger rooms with the similar midrange sound..
The problem with this comparison would be that you need to match them with the right amp to get it right. The tonally dominating character of the harbeth makes any amp sound good but the proac really needs a warm and ideally a tube amp..and the spendor a more neutral amp to even start some comparison talk
Also While the spendor and harbeth need open stands, the proac needs a really heavy solid stand.
So getting it,all right may not be easy..but it can be done
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panditji
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Arjun, most of the speakers need a good solid stand and for basic sound comparison a good pair or two of solid stands will suffice...
Regarding the amps, we have a Naim XS, Luxman 550 (Class A 30 Watts), Accuphase (if Manav is interested), Quad 909/Elite (if Subho is interested) and plenty more..
We only need a Spendor SP2/3R and a ProAc D series bookshelf speaker owner to do a comparison....It's a pity Spendor does not have a Delhi rep. even though Mr Shirke now owns it....
Regarding the amps, we have a Naim XS, Luxman 550 (Class A 30 Watts), Accuphase (if Manav is interested), Quad 909/Elite (if Subho is interested) and plenty more..
We only need a Spendor SP2/3R and a ProAc D series bookshelf speaker owner to do a comparison....It's a pity Spendor does not have a Delhi rep. even though Mr Shirke now owns it....
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mpw
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a speaker by itself is not worth. The rest of the elements in the chain have to be inspiring enough.
am not sure what source and what amp you intend to pair these with but make sure you go for clean power. The P3ESR is also less sensitive.
But that by itself again is no problem as the speaker will present a constant load to the amp.
Audition and decide.
The amount is too large to be left to opinions here.
rgds,
mpw
am not sure what source and what amp you intend to pair these with but make sure you go for clean power. The P3ESR is also less sensitive.
But that by itself again is no problem as the speaker will present a constant load to the amp.
Audition and decide.
The amount is too large to be left to opinions here.
rgds,
mpw
ghatgepatil
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What would be the HK/Sgp price of a Rogers LS3/5a? .... for a comparison with the Harbeth / Spendor @ equivalent.
panditji
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For 2.10 lakhs, NO...It is too expensive at that price and you will get better speakers for that kind of money....You will get it for approx 2900 SG Dollars in Singapore and you can listen to all the competition at that price and have a holiday with the better halfand carry it in your luggage..
That way you get a holiday free with the speakers and get to listen to various equipment in one place...
That way you get a holiday free with the speakers and get to listen to various equipment in one place...
ranjeetrain
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That's the official line. Designer Alan Shaw maintains that Harbeth loudspeakers are designed to play at normal room levels. Whereas some speakers (such as ATC/PMC) are designed to be pleayed at reference levels.
It's not an official position, but I have found Dali to be another speaker that plays in a glorious manner without being pushed too loud.
I will not agree fully on this. I find the p3es to have the purest midrange of all the current generation harbeths I have heard. I have not heard the monitor 30 and monitor 40 so I cannot say it is the best among all. I have heard the p3 in various configurations in various room sizes. Recently I heard it at a record shop at Singapore which is a 300sqft+ in size an was playing the p3 with all naim gears. It just sounded wonderful and clean. The slight lack of low end slam did not take away anything from its wonderfully pure and present midrange and highs. The bass is less but clean. Not many would say these things about the bigger harbeths IMHO.
This only goes to show that small speakers are easier to get right than big speakers.
hi Abhi, from what i have heard from others as well, i believe the P3 and the monitor 30 are truly neutral in the range they do reproduce while the others have had some compromises for the higher range
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panditji
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Abhi, the P3s were designed to give the purest midrange and nothing else...Their core competency is the midrange and not thumps or lower frequency reproduction as you can see from the specs...
The bigger monitors were designed to do the above as well as reproduce the lower frequencies and fill a decent sized room maybe with some compromises..
The P3 does it's job of mid range reproduction very well and is designed for small rooms playing certain genres of music...try playing HipHop, Trance, Metal and you would not like what comes out since there is hardly any music in the mid range - only thumping lows and high pitched noises...
I assume all designers design speakers using their music that they listen to in the same way as we evaluate speakers with the music that we listen to....
So no question about it that the P3 mid range is probably the best in the Harbeth range but then the other speakers have to do more work than the P3..
The bigger monitors were designed to do the above as well as reproduce the lower frequencies and fill a decent sized room maybe with some compromises..
The P3 does it's job of mid range reproduction very well and is designed for small rooms playing certain genres of music...try playing HipHop, Trance, Metal and you would not like what comes out since there is hardly any music in the mid range - only thumping lows and high pitched noises...
I assume all designers design speakers using their music that they listen to in the same way as we evaluate speakers with the music that we listen to....
So no question about it that the P3 mid range is probably the best in the Harbeth range but then the other speakers have to do more work than the P3..
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