Hifi Gear/Components that you Regretted buying.

[oracle1974]

Nope. I am not that man

I have heard all those speakers although in different conditions. Some at shows and some at dealers.

The amplifiers are really nice and deserve good speakers. If you're considering higher-end models like the Fyne F8, you might want to look at amplifiers that are a step above in the product line. The F8 speakers are super revealing and need to be matched with the best. You'll hear everything through those speakers.

The F8 is a brilliant speaker, perfect for a mature listener. It takes classical, jazz, and classic rock to the next level and works well with electronic music too. It needs a great amp and matching cables, which is crucial. The Leben amplifier might work, but it's a good idea to do some research to ensure compatibility.

The Kudos 606 is another very revealing all-rounder speaker, just like all Kudos speakers. Due to its low sensitivity, it may not pair well with certain amplifiers.

The Kudos 505 offers similar qualities but with slightly lower bass output. However, it still delivers impressive bass. It needs an amp that is not overly bright but still revealing and capable of high power delivery. Using a small amp with any Kudos speaker may result in a sound that is a bit bright with weak bass.

Old tannoy speakers are nice too. Talk to a few tannoy nuts to make sure you buy only the best models. Fyne will outshine "SOME" of the tannoy models so tread with care.

The Qualio IQ is also a great all-rounder speaker, doing justice to various music genres. I liked the tone of this speaker, and offers more bass and overall frequency coverage compared to other speakers. Adequate space is necessary for the bass to load properly; otherwise, it may overpower the room.

Do consider Kerr Acoustic K300 MK3 and Proacs as well.

Any comparison of Kerr Acoustics K300 and the ATC SCM 20 passives . Wanting a make a choice between the two for my 13ft x 10ft room. Looking for a more natural sound. Also have pair of Rel S510 seem to integrate well with the ATC as per the reviews.

 

[reignofchaos]

I can tell you between PMC TB2i signature and SCM 19 - very similar speakers other than the Kerr having a ribbon. TL bass is very very different sounding compared to sealed or ported - please it in person before you commit. Depending on your taste, it can sound wonderful to one note.

 

[oracle1974]

I can tell you between PMC TB2i signature and SCM 19 - very similar speakers other than the Kerr having a ribbon. TL bass is very very different sounding compared to sealed or ported - please it in person before you commit. Depending on your taste, it can sound wonderful to one note.

Thanks for the cautionary advice. Hearing it is not an option. ATC SCM 20 seems to be a safer bet.

 

[square_wave]

Any comparison of Kerr Acoustics K300 and the ATC SCM 20 passives . Wanting a make a choice between the two for my 13ft x 10ft room. Looking for a more natural sound. Also have pair of Rel S510 seem to integrate well with the ATC as per the reviews.

ATC

• Low sensitivity, power-hungry
• Designed to tell the truth, not flatter
• Tight bass, pitch accurate but limited depth - No "room fill" bass. An outstanding amplifier with great power supply design and deep bass can bring out some deep notes from them though.

KERR

• Higher sensitivity, easier load
• Domestic-room focused
• Designed to be engaging and musically generous
• Bass is fuller and more room filling.
  

Kerr is easier to live with. Scale well without heroic amplification. Choose ATC if you want truth over beauty. That does not mean KERR is overly romantic. It is just on the romantic side of the fence.. Just a little bit. Many people like that.
Sealed designs most naturally deliver “detailed” and pitch-accurate bass (ATC), transmission lines can combine that quality with greater depth when done well. KERR uses a quarter-wave transmission-line architecture for bass. If not done well, TL can go deep and tuneful but can be slow. I have not noted any slowness while listening to them couple of times. Looks like they have done a decent job of that.

 

[oracle1974]

ATC

• Low sensitivity, power-hungry
• Designed to tell the truth, not flatter
• Tight bass, pitch accurate but limited depth - No "room fill" bass. An outstanding amplifier with great power supply design and deep bass can bring out some deep notes from them though.

KERR

• Higher sensitivity, easier load
• Domestic-room focused
• Designed to be engaging and musically generous
• Bass is fuller and more room filling.

Kerr is easier to live with. Scale well without heroic amplification. Choose ATC if you want truth over beauty. That does not mean KERR is overly romantic. It is just on the romantic side of the fence.. Just a little bit. Many people like that.
Sealed designs most naturally deliver “detailed” and pitch-accurate bass (ATC), transmission lines can combine that quality with greater depth when done well. KERR uses a quarter-wave transmission-line architecture for bass. If not done well, TL can go deep and tuneful but can be slow. I have not noted any slowness while listening to them couple of times. Looks like they have done a decent job of that.

Thanks square_wave.
Let me audition the ATC here in Mumbai.

ATC

• Low sensitivity, power-hungry
• Designed to tell the truth, not flatter
• Tight bass, pitch accurate but limited depth - No "room fill" bass. An outstanding amplifier with great power supply design and deep bass can bring out some deep notes from them though.

KERR

• Higher sensitivity, easier load
• Domestic-room focused
• Designed to be engaging and musically generous
• Bass is fuller and more room filling.

Kerr is easier to live with. Scale well without heroic amplification. Choose ATC if you want truth over beauty. That does not mean KERR is overly romantic. It is just on the romantic side of the fence.. Just a little bit. Many people like that.
Sealed designs most naturally deliver “detailed” and pitch-accurate bass (ATC), transmission lines can combine that quality with greater depth when done well. KERR uses a quarter-wave transmission-line architecture for bass. If not done well, TL can go deep and tuneful but can be slow. I have not noted any slowness while listening to them couple of times. Looks like they have done a decent job of that.

ATC seems like a safe choice to go for given that i have good quality pre and power amps and power amp can supply the power that ATCs demand. Plus have the Rel S510 pair.

Kerr K300 seem to be more alluring.

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ATC

• Low sensitivity, power-hungry
• Designed to tell the truth, not flatter
• Tight bass, pitch accurate but limited depth - No "room fill" bass. An outstanding amplifier with great power supply design and deep bass can bring out some deep notes from them though.

KERR

• Higher sensitivity, easier load
• Domestic-room focused
• Designed to be engaging and musically generous
• Bass is fuller and more room filling.

Kerr is easier to live with. Scale well without heroic amplification. Choose ATC if you want truth over beauty. That does not mean KERR is overly romantic. It is just on the romantic side of the fence.. Just a little bit. Many people like that.
Sealed designs most naturally deliver “detailed” and pitch-accurate bass (ATC), transmission lines can combine that quality with greater depth when done well. KERR uses a quarter-wave transmission-line architecture for bass. If not done well, TL can go deep and tuneful but can be slow. I have not noted any slowness while listening to them couple of times. Looks like they have done a decent job of that.

ATC

• Low sensitivity, power-hungry
• Designed to tell the truth, not flatter
• Tight bass, pitch accurate but limited depth - No "room fill" bass. An outstanding amplifier with great power supply design and deep bass can bring out some deep notes from them though.

KERR

• Higher sensitivity, easier load
• Domestic-room focused
• Designed to be engaging and musically generous
• Bass is fuller and more room filling.

Kerr is easier to live with. Scale well without heroic amplification. Choose ATC if you want truth over beauty. That does not mean KERR is overly romantic. It is just on the romantic side of the fence.. Just a little bit. Many people like that.
Sealed designs most naturally deliver “detailed” and pitch-accurate bass (ATC), transmission lines can combine that quality with greater depth when done well. KERR uses a quarter-wave transmission-line architecture for bass. If not done well, TL can go deep and tuneful but can be slow. I have not noted any slowness while listening to them couple of times. Looks like they have done a decent job of that.

ATCs seem like a safe bet. Have a good power amp to supply the power required and a good quality pre and plus Rel S510 pair for the bass extension. Audition will also be possible.

Kerr K300 seems more alluring but will be a blind buy.

This is a thread to highlight regret and am not digressing from the thread topic. This may be prophetic in the cause of most regrets to go for something alluring while the safe option is within one’s grasp.

 

[rwnano]

Just wonder what is the power rating needed to play the ATC type mid 80s sensitivity speakers well?

I have a harman kardon AVR 3550 65 watts RMS per channel - blackfaced, pushing a pair of transmission line speakers which are similar to the ATC in sensitivity.

I was considering a top of the line Pioneer AVR weighing 35 kg with 150 watts RMS per channel.

 

[square_wave]

Thanks square_wave.
Let me audition the ATC here in Mumbai.


ATC seems like a safe choice to go for given that i have good quality pre and power amps and power amp can supply the power that ATCs demand. Plus have the Rel S510 pair.

Kerr K300 seem to be more alluring.

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ATCs seem like a safe bet. Have a good power amp to supply the power required and a good quality pre and plus Rel S510 pair for the bass extension. Audition will also be possible.

Kerr K300 seems more alluring but will be a blind buy.

This is a thread to highlight regret and am not digressing from the thread topic. This may be prophetic in the cause of most regrets to go for something alluring while the safe option is within one’s grasp.

What is "safe" is totally dependent upon what type of listener you are. Listen to the ATC. Most people like them. If you like what you hear, you cant go wrong. The KERR is a bigger and generous sound overall but you need that only if you don't have that REL. Since you already have a power amp that supposedly will work well with the ATC, it may be the safer option. But audition first! Btw, what is your pre / amp ?

 

[oracle1974]

What is "safe" is totally dependent upon what type of listener you are. Listen to the ATC. Most people like them. If you like what you hear, you cant go wrong. The KERR is a bigger and generous sound overall but you need that only if you don't have that REL. Since you already have a power amp that supposedly will work well with the ATC, it may be the safer option. But audition first! Btw, what is your pre / amp ?

Pre is Doshi Evo 3.0 and power amp is Accustic Arts Amp ii Mk 3.

 

[square_wave]

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Pre is Doshi Evo 3.0 and power amp is Accustic Arts Amp ii Mk 3.

Outstanding gear. You have nothing to worry about

The S510 are also higher end in the line and the pair of them should perfectly match any bookshelf speaker or even floor-standing speakers. You surely are a veteran in the game.

 

[amrutmhatre90]

Any comparison of Kerr Acoustics K300 and the ATC SCM 20 passives . Wanting a make a choice between the two for my 13ft x 10ft room. Looking for a more natural sound. Also have pair of Rel S510 seem to integrate well with the ATC as per the reviews.

Hi Buddy,

I have ATC SCM 20 PSL classic speakers paired with Hegel, you can come over for audition since your in Mumbai.

 

[oracle1974]

Hi Buddy,

I have ATC SCM 20 PSL classic speakers paired with Hegel, you can come over for audition since your in Mumbai.

Thanks Amrut. Will plan for one.