TheSeeker
Well-Known Member
hello everyone,
so after 12 exceptional & exemplary years of repairless-service, my excellent & so-termed 'reference-level' panasonic 50VT20D plasma TV sadly beamed its last some weeks back (Y-board damaged; was unfortunately plugged out of the UPS at the time it was turned on by my father). tried to get it revived but the service tech (contact sourced from the forum itself) said even the display had issues, so better to just get a new TV now. believable, as from some months the display, yes, had developed some quirks (pink artefacts on one corner which appeared on & off for some months & then disappeared for good, but later a black rectangular band appeared on another corner-edge).
anyway, because i was satisfied by this deep-deeper-deepest blacks-level TV, was more-or-less oblivious & nor bothered to read up about the new developments in display-tech (other than OLED), terminologies and new model arrivals, until now. had purchased this one after a lot of research, and so sat down (and stood up to visit stores) to read-up about all this again this time and have been hogging on the various threads here & on reddit. however, as it tends to be, with the plethora of options & tech, got more-and-more confused & entangled in the jargon & wide-variety of models available. hence decided to finally create a thread now requesting members' suggestions.
the essential info-points first:
viewing-distance: 8~10 ft
panel-preference: none as such, but VA, if at all
content to be played: OTT >>>> youtube (480p~4k) >>> movies through HTPC >> occasional gaming (on orig. non-pro PS4 & HTPC with 1050ti) > HD STB. little-to-no sports.
usage-frequency: almost daily and more when am at home, most of it being OTT-content & youtube. and when am away for work, only OTT & very few times STB-usage by parents, but not as much as me.
off-axis viewing: not much. i prefer to watch it from the front. side-viewing only sometimes, that too not at sharp angles, so not much of an issue.
speakers: wont be using TV speakers much as the TV will remain connected to marantz AVR & 7.1.2 HTS. but good speakers will be nice to have as at nights might not be able to use the HT speakers always.
looking for size: 65" / 75"
TV placement: main hall, beside big windows having thick curtains (so the lighting-conditions can be controlled). during daytime-viewing we usually don't want/like to pull the curtains to block sunlight, unless its peak noon during summers.
OS/UI preference: google TV with 3GB of RAM. i use a mibox currently. may not need it later if i get a TV with good fluid smooth responsive UI & regular updates.
budget: <1.5L if possible, although not sure if i should spend as much because of reliability issues/lesser life of TVs now. ideally would like to spend less, but within the sweet spot of great/very good PQ+size & other specs.
models which i had/have shortisted:
1. 65" sony X90L (had not selected it earlier, but shortlisted it today after some comparative viewing)
2. 65" tcl C835 / C755 (not so inclined towards the C835 now after seeing it in person against the X90L today at croma, esp. when its priced at almost the same figure as the X90L there)
3. 65" hisense U7K; would've opted for 75" but it seems to be available only on amazon @1.5L with measly discounts (was half-set on this till few days back, but now very skeptical after reading all the reviews here & everywhere else esp. reg. the after-sales service)
4. 65"/75" vu masterpiece glo (re-considering it now after checking some reviews)
5. 65" lg c2x
6. (any other..?)
my queries:
1. should i compromise on some PQ & processing-power etc. for more screen real-estate? for instance, specifically, would opting for VU masterpiece glo 75" against a 65" sony X90L be a sensible decision? going to visit VU experience centre soon to have a look at their TV.
2. i don't have a console or HTPC capable of 120hz gaming, so would 120hz refresh-rate TV still be good to buy in my case for movie-watching? watched some content in the stores and the picture did look pleasing at higher refresh-rate, but should that be one of the decision-making factors?
my few observations (ongoing):
- i made a couple of visits to RD & croma stores (mumbai/thane). saw TCL C645, C835, samsung S90C, sony X90L & earlier iterations, LG OLEDs etc etc. couldnt find hisense & vu on display anywhere. was earlier set on buying an 50-55" OLED, but then thought it better to upgrade the size. 55" doesnt seem to be much of an upgrade, so have now decided to go for 65" or 75" (pls advise on this based on my viewing-distance).
- croma didnt have LG C2 in stock anymore, while RD has it and said they can give me a "best price" on it, incl. 10% discount on credit-card & then some more. however today i checked 55" C3 against 65" X90L in person at croma, and to my eyes the colours of the X90L looked more vibrant and pleasing (same/similar picture-modes on both the TVs). no doubt blacks on the C3 were great, but it looked noticeably dimmer than the X90L (even though its said to be brighter than the C2), and colour-distinction wasn't as much as on the X90L. after years of watching great blacks on my VT20 but at the cost of low brightness, i think am ready to compromise a bit on the former & opt for more vibrant colour-gamut now.
- compared the incomparables too, like tcl C835 with sony X90L. while alone the C835 looked pleasing, but when pitted against the X90L, the distinction was clear. colours & blacks on the latter were richer and deeper. and just now read that C755 (or C805 outside India) is launched now on amazon. however upon quick reading, found out that it falls between C835 & C845, and @lightgamer says that X90L is already better than C845, so..
- also visited vijay sales once and saw 65" S90C, A80K and X90L stacked on top of each other. X90L here too looked a bit sharper and quite brighter esp. in scenes with white background.
(FWIW, saw a sansui 55" JSW55GS QLED TV at a relative's place recently. newly purchased. looked very good for its price, incl. upscaled content as well as 4K).
i will next be visiting VU experience store and some local stores in my city, as i read here that local stores can sometimes offer better deals than these CE chains. unfortunately my present TV departed for TV-heaven after Deepawali and all other sales. and to top it, i wont be here to avail offers during 26th jan too. croma guy said me to give him a call before i am leaving so that he can help me to avail the offer. thinking of what to do, how to do. if possible i could atleast book the TV at the offer-price before the sale starts, if they let me avail it. lets see..
thanks for reading my long post!
requesting your suggestions, @lightgamer, @Alphaforest, @nitz_vision, @Harpreet1104, @Donivlapog and others..
so after 12 exceptional & exemplary years of repairless-service, my excellent & so-termed 'reference-level' panasonic 50VT20D plasma TV sadly beamed its last some weeks back (Y-board damaged; was unfortunately plugged out of the UPS at the time it was turned on by my father). tried to get it revived but the service tech (contact sourced from the forum itself) said even the display had issues, so better to just get a new TV now. believable, as from some months the display, yes, had developed some quirks (pink artefacts on one corner which appeared on & off for some months & then disappeared for good, but later a black rectangular band appeared on another corner-edge).
anyway, because i was satisfied by this deep-deeper-deepest blacks-level TV, was more-or-less oblivious & nor bothered to read up about the new developments in display-tech (other than OLED), terminologies and new model arrivals, until now. had purchased this one after a lot of research, and so sat down (and stood up to visit stores) to read-up about all this again this time and have been hogging on the various threads here & on reddit. however, as it tends to be, with the plethora of options & tech, got more-and-more confused & entangled in the jargon & wide-variety of models available. hence decided to finally create a thread now requesting members' suggestions.
the essential info-points first:
viewing-distance: 8~10 ft
panel-preference: none as such, but VA, if at all
content to be played: OTT >>>> youtube (480p~4k) >>> movies through HTPC >> occasional gaming (on orig. non-pro PS4 & HTPC with 1050ti) > HD STB. little-to-no sports.
usage-frequency: almost daily and more when am at home, most of it being OTT-content & youtube. and when am away for work, only OTT & very few times STB-usage by parents, but not as much as me.
off-axis viewing: not much. i prefer to watch it from the front. side-viewing only sometimes, that too not at sharp angles, so not much of an issue.
speakers: wont be using TV speakers much as the TV will remain connected to marantz AVR & 7.1.2 HTS. but good speakers will be nice to have as at nights might not be able to use the HT speakers always.
looking for size: 65" / 75"
TV placement: main hall, beside big windows having thick curtains (so the lighting-conditions can be controlled). during daytime-viewing we usually don't want/like to pull the curtains to block sunlight, unless its peak noon during summers.
OS/UI preference: google TV with 3GB of RAM. i use a mibox currently. may not need it later if i get a TV with good fluid smooth responsive UI & regular updates.
budget: <1.5L if possible, although not sure if i should spend as much because of reliability issues/lesser life of TVs now. ideally would like to spend less, but within the sweet spot of great/very good PQ+size & other specs.
models which i had/have shortisted:
1. 65" sony X90L (had not selected it earlier, but shortlisted it today after some comparative viewing)
2. 65" tcl C835 / C755 (not so inclined towards the C835 now after seeing it in person against the X90L today at croma, esp. when its priced at almost the same figure as the X90L there)
3. 65" hisense U7K; would've opted for 75" but it seems to be available only on amazon @1.5L with measly discounts (was half-set on this till few days back, but now very skeptical after reading all the reviews here & everywhere else esp. reg. the after-sales service)
4. 65"/75" vu masterpiece glo (re-considering it now after checking some reviews)
5. 65" lg c2x
6. (any other..?)
my queries:
1. should i compromise on some PQ & processing-power etc. for more screen real-estate? for instance, specifically, would opting for VU masterpiece glo 75" against a 65" sony X90L be a sensible decision? going to visit VU experience centre soon to have a look at their TV.
2. i don't have a console or HTPC capable of 120hz gaming, so would 120hz refresh-rate TV still be good to buy in my case for movie-watching? watched some content in the stores and the picture did look pleasing at higher refresh-rate, but should that be one of the decision-making factors?
my few observations (ongoing):
- i made a couple of visits to RD & croma stores (mumbai/thane). saw TCL C645, C835, samsung S90C, sony X90L & earlier iterations, LG OLEDs etc etc. couldnt find hisense & vu on display anywhere. was earlier set on buying an 50-55" OLED, but then thought it better to upgrade the size. 55" doesnt seem to be much of an upgrade, so have now decided to go for 65" or 75" (pls advise on this based on my viewing-distance).
- croma didnt have LG C2 in stock anymore, while RD has it and said they can give me a "best price" on it, incl. 10% discount on credit-card & then some more. however today i checked 55" C3 against 65" X90L in person at croma, and to my eyes the colours of the X90L looked more vibrant and pleasing (same/similar picture-modes on both the TVs). no doubt blacks on the C3 were great, but it looked noticeably dimmer than the X90L (even though its said to be brighter than the C2), and colour-distinction wasn't as much as on the X90L. after years of watching great blacks on my VT20 but at the cost of low brightness, i think am ready to compromise a bit on the former & opt for more vibrant colour-gamut now.
- compared the incomparables too, like tcl C835 with sony X90L. while alone the C835 looked pleasing, but when pitted against the X90L, the distinction was clear. colours & blacks on the latter were richer and deeper. and just now read that C755 (or C805 outside India) is launched now on amazon. however upon quick reading, found out that it falls between C835 & C845, and @lightgamer says that X90L is already better than C845, so..
- also visited vijay sales once and saw 65" S90C, A80K and X90L stacked on top of each other. X90L here too looked a bit sharper and quite brighter esp. in scenes with white background.
(FWIW, saw a sansui 55" JSW55GS QLED TV at a relative's place recently. newly purchased. looked very good for its price, incl. upscaled content as well as 4K).
i will next be visiting VU experience store and some local stores in my city, as i read here that local stores can sometimes offer better deals than these CE chains. unfortunately my present TV departed for TV-heaven after Deepawali and all other sales. and to top it, i wont be here to avail offers during 26th jan too. croma guy said me to give him a call before i am leaving so that he can help me to avail the offer. thinking of what to do, how to do. if possible i could atleast book the TV at the offer-price before the sale starts, if they let me avail it. lets see..
thanks for reading my long post!
requesting your suggestions, @lightgamer, @Alphaforest, @nitz_vision, @Harpreet1104, @Donivlapog and others..
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