jazz on flipkart

[moktan]

just ordered 2-In-1 Black Saint & The Sinner Lady/Mingus Mingus Mingus for Rs245/-.
the cd is by Universal and the price was so low i am wondering what the catch is.
hopefully it also features the liner notes famously written by Mingus' shrink.

Black Saint and The Sinner Lady is rated by many to be amongst the finest jazz albums of all time. Mingus was a genius (although a difficult one) and this work tells you why ....
Pierlo Scaruffi also rates it quite highly.
100 Greatest Jazz Albums
so does Scott Yanow of allmusic.
even Mingus Mingus Mingus is great music. better get hit in yo soul is organic, tribal and really hits you in your soul.

besides these there seem to be quite a few other jazz classics that seem to be very competitively priced (Rs245/-) at Flipkart.

 

[coaltrain]

just saw the track list on flipkart and noticed 2 issues:

- track 4 (modes d e f) is only 6 mins. actually it's closer to 20 mins on the original album, if I remember correctly.
- the last track, freedom, is missing on mingus x 5.

do check when you receive the cd. black saint is pointless without the last track.

after black saint, the Mingus album to get is 'Mingus ah um'. stunning stuff.
and do try to track down a copy of the penguin guide to jazz on cd. the best guide to jazz on the planet, imho.

 

[moktan]

just saw the track list on flipkart and noticed 2 issues:

- track 4 (modes d e f) is only 6 mins. actually it's closer to 20 mins on the original album, if I remember correctly.
- the last track, freedom, is missing on mingus x 5.

do check when you receive the cd. black saint is pointless without the last track.

after black saint, the Mingus album to get is 'Mingus ah um'. stunning stuff.
and do try to track down a copy of the penguin guide to jazz on cd. the best guide to jazz on the planet, imho.

you are correct. the 4th track , Mode D - Trio and Group Dancers + Mode E - Single Solos and Group Dance + Mode F - Group & Solo Dance is 18:39 minutes to be precise.
i guess that's where it gives.
actually i have all his albums, including Epitaph, The Clown, etc etc and sundry other very profound live acts , especially with Eric Dolphy.
but thought i should own some through legitimate means.

 

[Nikhil]

after black saint, the Mingus album to get is 'Mingus ah um'. stunning stuff.
and do try to track down a copy of the penguin guide to jazz on cd. the best guide to jazz on the planet, imho.

Just got "Ah Um" a couple of weeks ago .
In addition to the Mingus I also picked up some Lee Morgan albums.

 

[coaltrain]

@ moktan

that's too bad! I would strongly recommend that you cancel the order and get the complete black saint album on impulse. it's truly worth it.

@ nikhil

lee morgan is always welcome hope you ordered 'the sidewinder' on blue note!

 

[moktan]

@ moktan

that's too bad! I would strongly recommend that you cancel the order and get the complete black saint album on impulse. it's truly worth it.

i did cancel that order. by the way this year i bought some jazz here in this forum. Labels like Telarc, Chesky, ECM etc.
unfortunately not Mingus.
right now am listening to Tijuana Moods. been listening to lots of Don Pullen too. great , unpredictable piano. by the way, didn't realise he was the cat playing with Mingus on Changes One and Two.

 

[GeorgeO]

Some recommendations, not sure if Flipkart stocks them

Candy Dulfer-Candy Store and Saxuality
Pamela Williams- Saxtress

 

[metalmickey]

@george-ain't candy more like be bop/commercial?while we are talking mighty Mingus?!i picked up some art Blakey,Hartman,and flora Purim recently from fkart!(last week)

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[GeorgeO]

Metalmickey-many flavours to jazz(IMHO), these ladies are both very talented saxophonists. Pamela Williams has performed with the late great Grover Washington Jr. To mind Grover was one of the all time greats.

 

[Nikhil]

lee morgan is always welcome hope you ordered 'the sidewinder' on blue note!

"Sidewinder" and "Cornbread". In fact listening to it right now.

p.s.: I forgot to mention that these were not on Flipkart. I used Amazon.com.
Little more expensive but imports are much better quality for these albums.

 

[moktan]

@george-ain't candy more like be bop/commercial?while we are talking mighty Mingus?!i picked up some art Blakey,Hartman,and flora Purim recently from fkart!(last week)

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how would mighty Mingus respond if he overheard that we were discussing him in the same thread as some ladies....
just joking....
anyway here is Mingus looking on

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[jls001]

picked up some art Blakey,Hartman,and flora Purim recently from fkart!(last week)

Hey, what's a metal guy doing hoarding jazz records?

 

[coaltrain]

"Sidewinder" and "Cornbread". In fact listening to it right now.

p.s.: I forgot to mention that these were not on Flipkart. I used Amazon.com.
Little more expensive but imports are much better quality for these albums.

great picks, nikhil! I especially love hancock's funky piano on cornbread
if you can, get your hands on 'search for the new land' and 'leeway' by morgan on blue note. I'm sure you'll like both albums.
btw, I've picked up quite a few blue notes in India and, frankly, the sound quality is pretty good. the best sonics, however, are 24bit RVGs from Japan in mlps format.

@ moktan
funnily enough, I've only heard don pullen with Mingus. need to check out his albums as a leader. right now, the one (living) pianist who's blowing my mind is vijay iyer. his 'accelerando' is a masterpiece.
which reminds me: have you heard 'Mingus plays piano'? there's one track titled 'myself when I'm real' that's totally out there!

 

[coaltrain]

how would mighty Mingus respond if he overheard that we were discussing him in the same thread as some ladies.....
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Mingus the misogynist? he'd blow a fuse!
btw, last year I caught the Mingus big band playing at the jazz standard in new york. and who was there to thank the audience at the end of the show? sue mingus! guess the ladies still love him

 

[moktan]

@ moktan
funnily enough, I've only heard don pullen with Mingus. need to check out his albums as a leader. right now, the one (living) pianist who's blowing my mind is vijay iyer. his 'accelerando' is a masterpiece.
which reminds me: have you heard 'Mingus plays piano'? there's one track titled 'myself when I'm real' that's totally out there!

coaltrain ..true to your moniker you seem to be a passionate jazz fan with loads of knowledge on the genre..please keep educating us...
the Don Pullen, i have heard are New Beginnings, Milano Strut, Capricorn Rising (with saxman Sam Pullen) . there is a certain bombastic, unpredictable, percussive aspect of his playing that feels very alive. not quite the exuberant joyousness of michel petrucianni (Little Peace in C for you, Cantabille), but darker.
me i 'like' the glimmering , impressionistic Bill Evans school of piano. somewhere in between the sparse, dryness of Lennie Tristano and the baroque, extroverted excursions of virtuosos like Tatum or Peterson...
been listening to loads of sometimes understated and other times unconventional Paul Bley. also Chano Dominguez. his collaborations with NFS(New Flamenco Sound) is what jazz fusion should sound like.i think.
yes I have heard Vijay Iyer (Panoptic Modes, Reimagining and Solo) and i in fact , perhaps in a thread discussing Carnatic Music, brought him into a discussion about Rudresh Mahanthappa.
i find Iyer very cerebral. you should check out Denny Zeitlin too. his academic pedigree is quite as impressive as Iyer's.

 

[moktan]

@ moktan
which reminds me: have you heard 'Mingus plays piano'? there's one track titled 'myself when I'm real' that's totally out there!

ahh...i am covered on this one too. thanks for reminding me. will give it a good hard listen.
by the way , a few weeks back i was watching Straight No Chaser a Clint Eastwood documentary on Monk...it focussed more on the man than his playing but i think i saw Mingus there too ....
also , years ago (when I was into rock) a friend gifted me a cassette called Weird Nightmares of Mingus.... not being able to make much of that music, i had given it to a senior who played and composed jazz and he had really freaked out on it...his cousin plays the double bass for an Indian act called Silver Chops..have you heard them?..me i haven't ever heard a class jazz act performed live..my take is unless one gets to hear them consistently , it just gives a 'gimmicky', 'i was there too' bragging rights but not much depth..of course these are personal views and to an extent it could be 'sour grapes'
but fortunate are guys like you who can travel and consistently consume live jazz acts by the real cats..

 

[jls001]

As a neophyte and recent convert to jazz, I have been listening to lots of what Japanese jazz artists have on offer - Tsushoyi Yamamoto Trio (the cheesily named album "What a Wonderful Trio"), Isao Suzuki Trio (album Blow Up), Hideo Ichikawa Trio (Tomorrow), and Shoji Yokouchi Trio (Greensleeves).

The one thing that I like about small ensembles is the sparseness of their arrangements - each instrument, and each note has something important to say. There is very little superfluousness. My only regret is the inability of my speakers to convincingly reproduce the last couple of lowest octaves (standing bass and/or cello notes are so important in a small ensemble's sound).

Also seeing lots of play in my listening room these days is jazz albums re-mastered in Japan, like these

BTW, member Suresh Lalwani, who doesn't participate too much on discussion here, is one living-walking-breathing jazz afficionado who knows and appreciates his jazz deeply.

 

[GeorgeO]

I have albums from Yamamoto and Suzuki. Another great Japanese performer is Lew Tabackin's wife Toshiko Akiyoshi. Lew himself is also no mean player, picked up one of his albums on a visit to Viren Bakhsi's place a few years ago.

 

[moktan]

As a neophyte and recent convert to jazz, I have been listening to lots of what Japanese jazz artists have on offer - Tsushoyi Yamamoto Trio (the cheesily named album "What a Wonderful Trio"), Isao Suzuki Trio (album Blow Up), Hideo Ichikawa Trio (Tomorrow), and Shoji Yokouchi Trio (Greensleeves).

The one thing that I like about small ensembles is the sparseness of their arrangements - each instrument, and each note has something important to say. There is very little superfluousness. My only regret is the inability of my speakers to convincingly reproduce the last couple of lowest octaves (standing bass and/or cello notes are so important in a small ensemble's sound).

Also seeing lots of play in my listening room these days is jazz albums re-mastered in Japan, like these

BTW, member Suresh Lalwani, who doesn't participate too much on discussion here, is one living-walking-breathing jazz afficionado who knows and appreciates his jazz deeply.

i bought some of my CDs from Mr. Lalwani's big sale. the cd qualities were good and i was allowed to pay in my own time. which also was very good.
yes Japan has a very strong jazz tradition.
my personal favourite is ms. Aki Takase, pianist and composer. She has performed with David Murray, Evan Parker etc.
i am currently listening to Takase and David Murray collaboration Blue Monk.

 

[coaltrain]

hi moktan

after reading your description of pullen, i took a quick look at the bible (the penguin guide to jazz). it says that pullen's work as a leader is akin to cecil taylor. now, that's piqued my curiosity as i love taylor! thanks for the suggestion

going by your tastes, do check out the esbjorn svensson trio (est), if you haven't already. i have a feeling you may like them. also, iyer's historicity and accelerando are more melodic than the ones you've mentioned. do check out the vids below.

regarding live jazz, i strongly believe that hardcore jazzers should visit nyc at least once in their lifetime. there's no other place in the world where you'll hear such a choice of quality jazz by some of the best players alive today. tonight for instance (dec.13th), there's christian macbride at the village vanguard, medeski martin & wood at blue note and roy haynes at birdland! no prizes for guessing that i'd go see the only guy in that bumch who's played with coltrane


Esbjrn Svensson Trio - When God Created The Coffee Break - YouTube

"Human Nature" - Vijay Iyer Trio Live at KPLU - YouTube