Multiple drivers for front towers, required?

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Hello Forum Members,

I had this question in mind. It is recommended that you set the front speakers to Small in the AVR and also drive the low frequency through the Sub woofer.

If that is the case, does it help to have the front towers with multiple drivers and how?

I do agree that for normal Stereo Music listening, it makes sense, but not in the 5.1 or 7.1 if you have to set the tower speakers as small.

I am seeking enlightenment...

Thanks,
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Prem,

Why would you set the tower speaker as small? Low bass is, so called, uni-directional but not the upper bass and the midbass. Front tower would handle that at around upto 100Hz and you would get a better depth of sound in front of you. If you give Sub to handle as high as 150-200 or so, the soundstage will be effected. The effect will be muddy as SUB will be firing lows coming all the 5 channels through a single driver (mono effect).

Another reason is SPL. For a largish room, where fronts are expected to long throw, BS will struggle to fill the room profoundly with upper lows and mid-bass frequency range.

So yes, you have done it right buying the towers, in case you doubt your decision now :)

Cheers,
 
Multi-drivers definitely do not matter, imo. Its more to do with the housing design than the number of drivers used. I could be wrong here!

Had the opportunity to visit a Delhi FM's home very recently. He is having DIY 2-way transmission line speakers, with a small tweeter and a 5.25" mid-woofer per speaker, in a 300 sq. ft. room. Frankly, I have not heard anything better uptil now!
 
Hi Koushik,

I am not questioning my buying decision, I have seen tower speakers with 5 drivers and a tweeter, my question is regarding that.

Most of the online manual / articles / forums speak of setting the front to small, the justification being, it will be easier of the amplifier to drive the sub and also that the sub is better suited to do the job.

Below is something I read...

I totally disagree with anyone who says you should always set the speakers to "large" regardless of their actual size/low-frequency responsewhich means I agree with Audyssey that you should set the speakers to "small" when using a subwoofer, even if the main speakers are full-range. Why? First of all, if the speakers are not full-range, there's no point in trying to make them reproduce low frequencies.

Even so-called full-range speakers rarely reach as low as true subwoofers. In your case, the Monitor 11 specifies a low-frequency extension (the frequency that measures -3dB from the nominal level in a typical room) at 30Hz, which is pretty low, but not as low as the PW-2100, which specifies a low-frequency extension of 23Hz. I was unable to find the CC-390 on the Paradigm website, but the CC-490's low-frequency extension is specified at 43Hz, and the Mini Monitor's low-frequency extension is 42Hz. The specified on-axis frequency response (2dB) of the Monitor 11 goes down to 42Hz, while the CC-490 goes down to 65Hz and the Mini Monitor goes down to 75Hz.

Then there's the issue of speaker locationthe best positions for low-frequency drivers in a room are often not the same as the best positions for the midrange and high-frequency drivers. Redirecting all the low frequencies in a soundtrack to one or more subwoofers lets you optimize the bass performance of the room by placing the sub(s) independently of the main speakers. And because low frequencies are not directionalthat is, you can't perceive the direction from which they emanatethey needn't come from the main speakers for the sake of imaging.

The THX specification for crossover frequency is 80Hz, so that's where I'd set the speakers and subwoofer lowpass. You might want to try different settings just to see if they sound betterin particular, setting it a bit lower for the front L/R than the center and surrounds might work in your case, since the Monitor 11 goes lower than the othersbut 80Hz is a good starting point.

To answer your last two questions, information below the crossover frequency is redirected from the main channels to the subwoofer. And the amp still sends full power to the speakers even though they are set to "small."
 
Hello Forum Members,

I had this question in mind. It is recommended that you set the front speakers to Small in the AVR and also drive the low frequency through the Sub woofer.

If that is the case, does it help to have the front towers with multiple drivers and how?

I do agree that for normal Stereo Music listening, it makes sense, but not in the 5.1 or 7.1 if you have to set the tower speakers as small.

I am seeking enlightenment...

Thanks,
Prem

For watching/ listening 5.1/7.1 content you don't need a tower with multiple drivers... A simple satellite speaker can handle up-to 80 - 100Hz and the rest to subwoofer directly....
 
I don't know whom did you quote here but he is not correct in his understanding (pardon me for saying that). Even if you set the speakers to large, AVR doesn't send anything lower than 40hz to the other 5 channels. So the question of 30hz and 23hz doesn't holds good. You can set the crossover and anything below that will be send to sub out.

Now, suppose you have a BS of FR 70-20k Hz
- You cross the AVR at 70-80Hz
- Sub will happily sing at that range
- But the for a BS filling a room with a good SPL of 70 Hz is challenging where as a FS will do it gracefully.

So it depends on the room size as I mentioned earlier. A BS will be pressed hard to fill a big room with upper lows and mid bass.

Now if you cross AVR anywhere higher and want to spare Fronts from upper lows and mid bass then it is not a good idea. I have already mentioned in my previous post -
If you give Sub to handle as high as 150-200 or so, the soundstage will be effected. The effect will be muddy as SUB will be firing lows coming all the 5 channels through a single driver (mono effect).
At that range, they are quite directional.
 
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I can just contribute with my listening experience

I have several times tried with various settings keeping FS as Large/small and then setting Crossover from 40-120 Hz

My setup works best when I keep the FS as "Large" and crossover for Fronts to 40 Hz and surrounds to 80 Hz

As per manual my Speakers are able to handle as low as 40 hz
 
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