need a projector for watching movies.

[prosenjit]

little off topic...if anyway you buy a ups for pj or ht...shd be a pure sine wave wala...which are expensive than the normal ones used for pc...

yes i support rajadeeps opinion.
it is not that led 300=bulb 2000.....
lum is lum...measured on screen...whatever be the source...
it is also true...it is not exactly 7 times bright....2000 and 300 lum...
but yes difference is just day and night...
and if you calculate on real time basis...bulb change is not that scary...long time...
bulb also nullifies any room treatment..like dark walls and celing etc...as they are bright enough..

i vote for bulbs...dlp or lcd..your personal choice
a demo will help you to determine...

actually led light is cool...but needs very very strong cooling of itself...like liquid cooling...so now led pjs are of low lum...maybe in near future pj makers will mainstream liquid cooled high lum led pjs...

 

[manoj.p]

Just to add - IF led projectors were quite a match to entry level projectors, those would have crushed sub $2000 projectors in marketplace completely. Those haven't even managed to crush 720p bulb based projectors in $500~700 range. I am not saying they are complete waste, but remember what the drawbacks are. Better yet, I would suggest auditioning both and decide. It's not a good idea to make a buying decision without seeing each of them, at least.

About 720p vs 1080p. I was under the same impression that it does not make much difference. But once you see 1080p, you will know. . The increased resolution can't be missed.

 

[just4kix]

LED projectors are meant for the person on extreme budget constraints and a person who is constantly on the move. I have seen sales and marketing people move with compact palm top LED projectors, albiet the boardroom ones. If one is serious about home projection cinema, then please give LED projectors a miss. I completely agree with rajadeep and prosenjit on this point. How can 300 lumens match 2000 lumens? Light is light afterall. If one is interested in very small projection rooms and a diagonal of 60"~80" then LED will make sense.

Now let us come to bulb costs. I will not again reiterate rajadeep's calculations as it may sound rhetorical. My own 720p projector's lamp life is rated 3000 hours. I have had the projector since mid-2005 and I am yet to replace the bulb! This is because no matter what you think, a projector cannot replace a TV. My projector watching is mostly restricted to movies over weekends - because of choice and not any rule. A projector is simply not convinient - darken the room, pull down the screen, watch projector, take a break, etc. So consequently, the bulb has clocked just 1600 hours so far.

 

[Saket]

...if anyway you buy a ups for pj or ht...shd be a pure sine wave wala...which are expensive than the normal ones used for pc...

Can you & others please elaborate on this. Actually, I am planning to get an APC UPS (normal computer UPS) for my LED PJ. It consumes 45W of power through a 220 to 19.6V AC/DC power adaptor.

Also, please note that we have generator facility available, so this UPS is only for about a minute or two of downtime.

@Manu: Do you have the option to demo them at any store? If yes, then this should be your next step. Take a demo of a good spec bulb PJ in your budget and also take a demo of an LED PJ. It will clear all your doubts. I agree with prosenjit and other members that bulb PJs produce excellent picture quality which can not be matched by LED pjs at this point of time. But still LED pjs can produce very good images in HD (720P) in your budget, given that they need tight control on ambience light. As my viewing is only at the night, it's never been an issue for me. I am quite happy with the image quality too. & not to mention, beautiful shots of landscapes look amazing on a big screen. Just to share, last week I was watching a movie shot in Fiji Islands and the shots were mind blowing when seen on the big screen.

One great point of using PJs for watching movies, be it LED or Lamp based is that they do not strain your eyes like the TV. They are soft & easy on the eyes, so that should again pump up some encouragement to you.

Regards,
Saket

 

[just4kix]

Can you & others please elaborate on this. Actually, I am planning to get an APC UPS (normal computer UPS) for my LED PJ. It consumes 45W of power through a 220 to 19.6V AC/DC power adaptor.

Also, please note that we have generator facility available, so this UPS is only for about a minute or two of downtime.

@Manu: Do you have the option to demo them at any store? If yes, then this should be your next step. Take a demo of a good spec bulb PJ in your budget and also take a demo of an LED PJ. It will clear all your doubts. I agree with prosenjit and other members that bulb PJs produce excellent picture quality which can not be matched by LED pjs at this point of time. But still LED pjs can produce very good images in HD (720P) in your budget, given that they need tight control on ambience light. As my viewing is only at the night, it's never been an issue for me. I am quite happy with the image quality too. & not to mention, beautiful shots of landscapes look amazing on a big screen. Just to share, last week I was watching a movie shot in Fiji Islands and the shots were mind blowing when seen on the big screen.

One great point of using PJs for watching movies, be it LED or Lamp based is that they do not strain your eyes like the TV. They are soft & easy on the eyes, so that should again pump up some encouragement to you.

Regards,
Saket

LED PJs do not need a UPS. A UPS is desirable only under following conditions:

- you have a bulb based projector that needs cooling down and must not be shut off from mains abruptly
- power supply in your home/area is very erratic

 

[prosenjit]

Can you & others please elaborate on this. Actually, I am planning to get an APC UPS (normal computer UPS) for my LED PJ.




One great point of using PJs for watching movies, be it LED or Lamp based is that they do not strain your eyes like the TV. They are soft & easy on the eyes, so that should again pump up some encouragement to you.

Regards,
Saket

i have read in many forums that the pc ups can harm HT electronics..so suggesting sine wave ups...

but Mr kix rightly said ...ups not needed for led pjs

yes true..pj viewing does not strain eyes and give headeach like tvs do....a real great point....

 

[Saket]

LED PJs do not need a UPS. A UPS is desirable only under following conditions:

- you have a bulb based projector that needs cooling down and must not be shut off from mains abruptly
- power supply in your home/area is very erratic

And one more condition: If you don't want breaks due to the downtime between the power cut & time taken to start the gen-set!

Now please?

For the benefit of the community & with no intentions of hi-jacking this thread, let's continue this discussion on a relevant thread.

Thanks,
Saket

 

[just4kix]

As I said before, if the power breaks in your area are frequent, then you may as well buy a home inverter for the whole house. This will not only help rest of the home but will suffice your projector also. I again repeat, there is no need of dedicated UPS for an LED projector.

 

[Saket]

As I said before, if the power breaks in your area are frequent, then you may as well buy a home inverter for the whole house. This will not only help rest of the home but will suffice your projector also. I again repeat, there is no need of dedicated UPS for an LED projector.

Dear, you are not getting my point! I am aware that technically LED pjs don't require a UPS but to understand my situation please see my post here:http://www.hifivision.com/home-thea...do-you-use-ups-your-projector.html#post487032

 

[just4kix]

I have got your point alright from your previous post. You want uninterrupted viewing. Go ahead with UPS if you want. The question that you must answer (to yourself) is how many times do you suffer from such "breaks". What I said was, if these breaks are very frequent, why not install a home inverter?

 

[Saket]

I have got your point alright from your previous post. You want uninterrupted viewing. Go ahead with UPS if you want. The question that you must answer (to yourself) is how many times do you suffer from such "breaks". What I said was, if these breaks are very frequent, why not install a home inverter?

Power cut was rare during the winters, but since summers have been creeping in (this is the first summer in my new apartment), we suffer at least one power cut in the evening for the last few days. So, even for one power cut, I have to suffer 2 breaks - One at the point of actual power cut till gen set is turned on, & the second when the power comes back and generator supply is switched to mains again. So, you see, one power cut means at least 2 breaks. If it's a bad day, then 2 power cuts would mean 4 breaks! Also, the PJ takes some time to initialize after every break. This is irritating stuff & ruins the fun.

Reg. the home inverter point, it would have made a perfect sense if the apartment did not have a generator power back-up. Since, we have the generator facility, it doesn't make sense to go for an inverter.

 

[just4kix]

Power cut was rare during the winters, but since summers have been creeping in (this is the first summer in my new apartment), we suffer at least one power cut in the evening for the last few days. So, even for one power cut, I have to suffer 2 breaks - One at the point of actual power cut till gen set is turned on, & the second when the power comes back and generator supply is switched to mains again. So, you see, one power cut means at least 2 breaks. If it's a bad day, then 2 power cuts would mean 4 breaks! Also, the PJ takes some time to initialize after every break. This is irritating stuff & ruins the fun.

Reg. the home inverter point, it would have made a perfect sense if the apartment did not have a generator power back-up. Since, we have the generator facility, it doesn't make sense to go for an inverter.

Obviously, you must do what appeals to you. It is a trade off between spending money and having convenience vs. saving money and suffering from small inconvenience. How great an inconvenience you are facing, only you can judge and then decide. Depends upon how much projector you watch everyday.

 

[Imrahn]

It would be a minimal investment of say 3k or so for an APC 800VA(5.5k if 1.1KVA APC)....so it's better you get one and be at peace, IMHO.

Regards
Imrahn

 

[Saket]

It would be a minimal investment of say 3k or so for an APC 800VA(5.5k if 1.1KVA APC)....so it's better you get one and be at peace, IMHO.

Regards
Imrahn

A UPS is good to have, but only a sine wave as Prosenjit advised earlier in this thread, but they are expensive. However, Manu would kill me for diverting the discussion, so better to continue the UPS discussion here: http://www.hifivision.com/home-theatre-projectors-screens/29664-do-you-use-ups-your-projector.html

Saket

 

[vinay]

It is correct that purpose can be fulfilled.

The fulfillment depends upon how much low or high one wants to go in planning and spending per their respective sensibilities and so on.

V.

With due respect to Vinay's suggestion, I will like to put forward my view too. IMO, the purpose can be fulfilled in a more cost effective way. Currently your budget is 30K..right. If you can increase it a bit, you can get a decent LED projector for watching movies like acer k130/330 or Benq GP2 which I am using too. You can read the review here: http://www.hifivision.com/home-thea...34326-complete-review-my-benq-joybee-gp2.html

How do you plan to play the movies? Most likely from your computer/ laptop. Do you have a fair enough sound system...because all the thrill of big screen will be completely out of sync if sound does not matches the screen 'dimensions'. If you have a decent sound system then it will not be too much spending I guess. But you will need at least a 4X6 screen which will cost you at least 1500 bucks. Most of the LED pjs are short throws, at least mine is so I am not able to do a permanent fit as it just needs no more than 6 feet to project a 90 inch screen. So, when I watch movies, I just place the pj on the floor, keep the laptop in proximity and attach it with the VGA port through the cable supplied with the PJ itself. My audio system is connected to the laptop through the 3.5mm jack. The only 2 drawbacks of this set up are:

1. No permanent kind of set up...But I really dont bother as I dont have the luxury of a separate HT room. My living rooms is my makeshift HT room!

2. Wires may look little huddled but again its only for the time when its playing. I have taken care of this issue to quite an extent by running them under the carpet.

Hope that helps,
Saket

 

[AMD20]

first off all i would like to tell you all that thoose who are thinking of epson eh tw550 price 45, 47, 50 k please correct your doughts the latest price from today has gone for 62500 mrp and the landing price for dealers is 58500 you an enquire from any part of india my friend who is a dealer told its prices have increased

 

[AMD20]

irst off all i would like to tell you all that thoose who are thinking of epson eh tw550 price 45, 47, 50 k please correct your doughts the latest price from today has gone for 62500 mrp and the landing price for dealers is 58500 you an enquire from any part of india my friend who is a dealer told its prices have increased

 

[diplomat]

manu, as u go far from screen with ur led PJ trying to get more an more bigger screen, the lumens drop proportionally.
Keep that in mind and go for ST type PJ like saket to get rid of such issue, if u decide to go ahead with LED...
As rajdeep says, my post with delta attachment will give u many option in bulb type too.

 

[prosenjit]

irst off all i would like to tell you all that thoose who are thinking of epson eh tw550 price 45, 47, 50 k please correct your doughts the latest price from today has gone for 62500 mrp and the landing price for dealers is 58500 you an enquire from any part of india my friend who is a dealer told its prices have increased

really....maybe..one of my friend just booked one with 49k...and yes correct may be due to vat...so it should be equally applicable to acer k130..or any model as wel.....so its okay..

 

[007india]

I am looking for a projector under 30k.I planned to buy 32 inch led for movie watching.but many of my friends are advising me to buy a projector.My only need is watching movies.

I have very little knowledge regarding projector.please give your valuable advises.
my room size is 20''/11'.

thanks everybody in advance.

Hello All!
I'm also planning to add a projector+screen(8x6feet) to my HT setup. My 7.1setup consists of Onkyo 609 & wharfedale 9.6+Jamo101. I don't have cable TV or STB in our house. The use of projecor is only for movies and 90% in night. Usage will be mostly in weekends, 2movies min per week. Source will be laptop with HDMI or DVD player fed to AVR. HDMI out from AVR will be fed to projector.

Hall size is 14x16feet(LxW). Distance between couch and screen will be 14feet. Screen will be infront of TV and in between front floor standers and behind center speaker. I plan to use 8x6feet manual pull out screen. Projector can be fixed in ceiling mount (in this case distance to screen can be 5feet or 9feet) or wall mount where the distance to screen will be 14feet.

Here are my queries. I have referred projector price list from deltapage.com
1) Can I use 300-500lumens LED projector (1280x800resol) to project video to screen which is at 14feet. The image size expected is min 8x6feet. Usage at night.
2) What are the constraints in increasing the distance between projector and screen.
3) Is it DLP projector different from LED projector?
4) Which is better ceiling or wall mount? cost. can I buy from ebay?
5) What is short throw projector? Can I place projector with 5feet gap and expect 8x6feet image. This is to avoid mount + wiring cost.
6) Can I buy screen from ebay or which is best place to buy in bangalore?

I would prefer setup to be one time and no adjustment during its usage.

Sorry for gate crashing in to this post.