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Saket

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Hello Folks,

I would like to set up a mini theatre thing & am looking for a projector. Budget is around 35k for projector but am open to worthy options +5K
Also would like to play some 3D content on it. What other thing I would require supposing that I have nothing to start with except a wall where I would like to project about 100 inch images. PLease list all components with exp price for the video set up with 3D playibility. I have good speakers system so no expenses for them..thank god!

What is the difference b/w 3D supported & 3D ready?

Regards,
Saket
 
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With a 35k budget, you are pretty much looking at XGA resolution (not hd), if you buy it from India - and you can forget about 3D too....your best bet is to import.

A good setup (for your means) would be 720p + in-built 3D (given that its imp to you)

There are two basic types of projectors available in the market as of now: 3D capable and 3D supported (there are various terminologies going around)

Basically what (inbuilt) 3D capable means is that you don't need an external converter box like Optoma 3D-XL ($200+). So essentially, you just plug in your 3d blu-ray player or the PS3 and the projector will do 3D right away.
What Does "3D Ready" Mean?

Given that you have a fixed budget - your best best, in my opinion, would be go for the latest Benq MW519 - it's 3d capable, has a high contrast ratio, and does 720p)
BenQ Global | Products - Projectors - MW519

Other projectors that do 3D straight out of the box (closer to your budget) are:
Acer H5360BD
Optoma GT750 - though it will cost a lot to import
Benq above
plus there are more....

I ordered a Optoma GT750 (with a 2 yr- Optoma warranty) from Spain because i didn't know much about the Benq as its a new model - but I found some more info on the MW519, and it looks like a good way forward - the best part - its cheap but you WILL have to up the budget by around 10k.

If you click on 'other buying options ' on the amazon page - your grand total (including custom duties) will come to around 43-45k - or less on other sites (shop around) - check out Amazon UK too (use borderlinx or SNS to ship)
checkout different Amazon sites: www.amazon.co.uk; .es; .de; .fr <----------on some items, I really found drastic differences in prices (maybe because of different overhead costs)

here's the Benq (also checkout Amazon.es)
http://www.amazon.de/BenQ-MW519-DLP...38AC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351158816&sr=8-1

Mind you, whatever price you see listed there, Amazon takes OFF the VAT because its being shipped OUTSIDE the country - so, you pay LESS - it tells you the grand total at the checkout page - so don't freak out by looking at the EURO pricing.

Other good projectors are Acer H5360 (not BD), Optoma H66 etc etc but then you'll have to buy an external box.

My advice:

1) Do your research........
2) Import it
3) Go ONCE
4) Go BIG

Meaning, importing will enable you to pick from a wider base - and get better specs
This will 'future-proof' you a little bit (though, there's no such thing in technology - lol)
Pay a little more - but pay for the RIGHT thing.
No point spending hard-earned $ on already obsolete technology

If you are looking at buying in India, there are many options:
Projector : Online Shopping in India - Buy Books, Mobiles, Cameras, Laptops, Watches, Apparels, Baby Care Products and Other Products Online at Flipkart.com

Lastly, and this is purely my personal opinion: Steer clear of eBay. it's your first projector; you're spending a lot; go with a reputed online retailer.
 
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Thanks for the detailed & concerned reply. I looked for the model on flipkart...seems they dont have it. THey have a 516 instead & it says 3D supported...acc to you means it will need extra hardware??

Please answer the following queries:

1. Which cloth & color will be best for DIY Screen? I have a dark brown wall or Red-golden (textured but smooth) Wall where I would be projecting the images.

2. Doesnt flipkart has anything which can do 3D straight out of the box? I plan to buy a 3D blu ray player, a 3D projector & glasses. I hope this makes the list for 3D viewing complete?

3. These 3D projectors have VGA inputs from deskptop/laptops for simple 2D viewing as I have a collection of nice movies on my HDD?

4. In case, you are already viewing your content on 3D, whats the experience like?

5. What hardware would I require to view cable TV on it? (no set top box- the old cable tv) & what price for the hardware?

6. Where can I get glasses for 3D viewing for such projectors locally/online(India)

7. I should have asked it before, but should I go for a LED projector or bulb type? DO LED projectors have a longer life? (I can produce a fairly dark room )

Thanks,
Saket
 
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Please advise on the above points. Need to make a decision soon.

Regards,
Saket
 
please search there are thraeds on inexpensive projectors you will get a lot of information....

but I also want to say go once go big........save money if tight in budget right now...
 
1. Which cloth & color will be best for DIY Screen? I have a dark brown wall or Red-golden (textured but smooth) Wall where I would be projecting the images.
Ideally use a manual pull down screen costing 5-8k - the screen quality determines the picture you will see - so no point in compromising here. If you still want to go the diy way, search for the threads in this forum - there are quite a few.

2. Doesnt flipkart has anything which can do 3D straight out of the box? I plan to buy a 3D blu ray player, a 3D projector & glasses. I hope this makes the list for 3D viewing complete?
You must go with PJ supporting 3d natively and NOT the 3D ready types IF you use a BDP as source - the 3D ready PJ need input of 120Hz and this is usually setup using the pc connecting the pj as a secondary monitor. I don't think such options are available in a BDP where its only plug-n-play.

3. These 3D projectors have VGA inputs from deskptop/laptops for simple 2D viewing as I have a collection of nice movies on my HDD?
Almost all PJs have VGA input - but be wary of custom connectors as getting spare custom vga cables may not be easy / cheap. Note that the movies rips, if not of good resolution, will not look as good on the big screen as compared to the smaller TV.

4. In case, you are already viewing your content on 3D, whats the experience like?
I have seen demos of 3D tv and PJs and yes! they look good and comparable to Theater. Only thing is that prolonged 3d can cause eye fatigue.. but its mostly individual specific..

5. What hardware would I require to view cable TV on it? (no set top box- the old cable tv) & what price for the hardware?
This is an interesting idea - I don't think one can connect the cable tv wire to the PJ as there are no corresponding inputs on the PJ. Basically there should be a tuner to tune the channels and this is not possible on the PJ directly. I don't think there are any separate h/w available except for an old tv/vcr with some kind of video out !
6. Where can I get glasses for 3D viewing for such projectors locally/online(India)
See my reply to your other post in the TV section on this topic.
7. I should have asked it before, but should I go for a LED projector or bulb type? DO LED projectors have a longer life? (I can produce a fairly dark room )
LED ones defenitly will outlast bulbs but the trade off is in the brigtness. LED versions are not as bright. if you have a dark room LED is a good option and it also wouldnt consume as much power.
 
Any idea why the Acer BD model is not sold in US? non BD is 430 dollars in US vs 490 pounds of the BD model in UK

This is just the way it goes - there are quite a few models which are sold in one market and not the other. Depends on the market demand and a couple of other factors.
 
Looking Into Acer K130 & K 330. How are they as rated by you guys?
Are they 3D projectors? If yes, what other things I would need for 3D viewing?
Saket
 
Looking Into Acer K130 & K 330. How are they as rated by you guys?
Are they 3D projectors? If yes, what other things I would need for 3D viewing?
Saket

The K330 has very limited 3D support (means, can only support 3D trough PC and a good Nvidia graphics card + kit - and both would cost $$)

Read this for a full review:
Acer K330 Review & Rating | PCMag.com

The K130 has gotten some great reviews but its only 300 lumens (meaning its not very bright). Again limited 3D support.

So the projector might be $400 but you're looking at another $200-500 to get it ready for 3D - Nvidia 3D vision kit in itself is over $200.

There are very few projectors which will give you 3D straight out of the box - like the MW519, GT750, Acer 5360BD - but you'll have to import those.

My advice: save a little more - increase your budget - and go for a good projector if its 3D you're after.
 
I would not recommend anybody to go with Nvidia 3D vision kit only to watch 3d movies. Its an overkill for this purpose and meant for 3d Gaming and hence priced exorbitantly.

Just to view 3d movies a 3d ready pj is good enough provided one already has a suitable htpc/pc/laptop to drive the pj at 120Hz.
The minimum one needs for 3d movies is a DLP Link 3d ready pj and a basic graphics card which can drive 120Hz display of decent resolution. The dlplink glasses are $25 upwards and compatible with any dlplink PJ.

Such cards are not costly (even around 2-3k) and need not be of the latest generation - even two/three year old cards will do just fine.

K130 is good enough if you have a darkened room; very good at night! :). More lumens are better but then you have to go with costly bulb replacements which would be $100-$150 -this is not the case in LED based PJs like k130.
 
Hi Please note that 3D projector in range of 35k to 40k is not possible. You will get 3D ready projector and then you will require 3D emitter which will cost 25k appprox. The LED projector you are looking for is also 3D ready hence no use. Also dont go for LED projector as Lumens are too low max 500 lumens . Whereas we talk of minimum 2000 lumens today. Led is failure dont go for it. My suggestion : go for Epson TW 480 / x 12 / w 12 in your budget. Forget 3D . If you want 3D the only cheapest option is TW 6000 and price is 1Lac.
 
Hi Please note that 3D projector in range of 35k to 40k is not possible. You will get 3D ready projector and then you will require 3D emitter which will cost 25k appprox. The LED projector you are looking for is also 3D ready hence no use. Also dont go for LED projector as Lumens are too low max 500 lumens . Whereas we talk of minimum 2000 lumens today. Led is failure dont go for it. My suggestion : go for Epson TW 480 / x 12 / w 12 in your budget. Forget 3D . If you want 3D the only cheapest option is TW 6000 and price is 1Lac.

Well - the 1-lac part's not true.......

the net door-to-door imported cost of Acer H5360BD (Amazon) - INR 48,300
Benq MW519 - INR 48,000 - Amazon
Optoma GT750 - INR 51,050 - Amazon

i am sure ebay + Borderlinx or SNS will be a little cheaper, maybe breaching the iNR 45,000 mark

All these have 3d built in so just plug and play - yes, they are 720p - but 720p is excellent in itself - and you can't make out the difference between 720p and 1080p upto 15 ft anyway for a 100 inch screen

http://www.suntroniclcd.com/1080p-does-matter.html
 
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Hi Please note that 3D projector in range of 35k to 40k is not possible. You will get 3D ready projector and then you will require 3D emitter which will cost 25k appprox. The LED projector you are looking for is also 3D ready hence no use. Also dont go for LED projector as Lumens are too low max 500 lumens . Whereas we talk of minimum 2000 lumens today. Led is failure dont go for it. My suggestion : go for Epson TW 480 / x 12 / w 12 in your budget. Forget 3D . If you want 3D the only cheapest option is TW 6000 and price is 1Lac.


A 3d emitter is not a required for 3d ready projector if it supports DLPLink.
The emitter based tech is the older tech now made obsolete by DLPLink which requires no extra hardware like emitters.

Yes, 3d ready PJs need a computer to enable 3d and is not supported natively. If one already has a half decent htpc/laptop with a graphics card, then 3d ready PJ is a good option.

Days of 1Lac+ for PJs are now no more a constraint. we have more and more newer and cheaper options coming in.
For entry level PJs, LED is the only option which is good for the price/performance as compared to higher more costlier options.
One can also try BenQ Global | Products - Projectors - MW519 as mentioned in another post.
 
I have almost zeroed in the acer K130. Will go the 3d way by computer route. please share your knowledge on the above...I am concerned about getting the DLP glasses .
 
I have almost zeroed in the acer K130. Will go the 3d way by computer route. please share your knowledge on the above...I am concerned about getting the DLP glasses .

this has been covered before

http://www.hifivision.com/home-thea...s/29630-need-help-project-3d-acer-k130-2.html

Didn't have time to compare and look at other sites/sellers - but through ONE of many sellers on Amazon Spain - total total excluding customs comes to:

Confirmacin del pedido:
Productos: EUR 496,28
Envo: EUR 62,51
Importe total: EUR 558,79

ofcourse - i bet there are many cheaper options available on amazon itself, from other sellers - just dig around

update:
BHphotovideo.com has it for:
SubTotal: $419.99
Sales Tax: $0.00
Shipping: $70.08
Order Total: $490.07 excluding customs
UPS Express - 3-4 days delivery - Great deal; UPS is fantastic for international shipping - highly professional
 
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Ok. the pj is final now...

I will ask this straight & simple...about the glasses...if I get some 3D content...say Titanic movie (which is my dream to watch in 3D...missed it in theatres), will I be able to watch it in 3D using a 120 Hz refresh rate on K130 using red/cyan anaglyph glasses?

Thanks
 
Ok. the pj is final now...

I will ask this straight & simple...about the glasses...if I get some 3D content...say Titanic movie (which is my dream to watch in 3D...missed it in theatres), will I be able to watch it in 3D using a 120 Hz refresh rate on K130 using red/cyan anaglyph glasses?

Thanks

Saket: Yes you can watch red / cyan 3d (called Analglyph mode) on any display including PJs with the corresponding glasses.
You dont need 120hz for this.

Note that though you get the display in 3d, the colors would not be natural and not as you get to see in theaters.
 
Well - the 1-lac part's not true.......

the net door-to-door imported cost of Acer H5360BD (Amazon) - INR 48,300
Benq MW519 - INR 48,000 - Amazon
Optoma GT750 - INR 51,050 - Amazon

i am sure ebay + Borderlinx or SNS will be a little cheaper, maybe breaching the iNR 45,000 mark

All these have 3d built in so just plug and play - yes, they are 720p - but 720p is excellent in itself - and you can't make out the difference between 720p and 1080p upto 15 ft anyway for a 100 inch screen

SuntronicLCD -1080p Does Matter Here's When (Screen Size vs. Viewing Distance vs. Resolution)

I am not very clear about how to import the projector through amazon / ebay to india and how to get the net price.

please help me.
many thanks
 
Saket: Yes you can watch red / cyan 3d (called Analglyph mode) on any display including PJs with the corresponding glasses.
You dont need 120hz for this.

Note that though you get the display in 3d, the colors would not be natural and not as you get to see in theaters.

Is there any s/w player available which can convert & play in anaglyph in real time out of normal 2d video?

Taking the cheaper way out!
 
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