Shoes

[arj]

he says ..'good year welting is this new fad' ..must be aimed at a different niche than a typical shoe person...for me these are the real moto boots or shoes .. https://www.motostyle.jp/collections/shoes ...they are artisanal offerings like those from rolling dub trio and are sold out most of the times ...though I know nothing about motor cycle boots ...

thats true .. motorcycling shoes have a different need and he needs to sell his non GY welt shoes

 

[arj]

found a video where he is cutting open a shoe..

@chander checkout the Raida Vintago Riding Shoes. again with all the riding slide and stress armour and in a chelsea ( which i love) form. Again Not a GYW

 

[chander]

Thanks @arj.

I am aware of trip machine and did have their boots for a couple years, then I gave those away. Not sure if their quality has improved, but even though they were OK for what they were charging for "MOTO BOOTS" their quality & overall experience of using that boot was Meh.

I have used a lot of motorcycle gear over 2 decades + of riding, and like everything else there is a lot of gear out there sold as "the gear", but turns out to be absolute cheap garbage. That includes some high end manufacturers too.

My current shoes include -
KLIM Outlander GTX - for weekend trips - where you need a single shoe for riding + a lot of walking and all your luggage is in a backpack - 5 years - though my batch had solid QC issues. In the US they have no questions asked return/repair policy, but in India it is tricky to get.
Gaerne G-Dakar - for long trips - specially reserved for Himalayas where you need solid waterproofing, a lot of torsional rigidity, stiffer sole for standing on the pegs etc etc - 4 years + exceptional boots, just impractical for almost everything off the bike.
TCX Hero - waterproof leather shoes - riding around town - 7 years - brilliant stuff, surprisingly waterproof, look good, feels brilliant. One shoe was left outside in the rain by mistake. So this is what needs replacement - I can always get the TCX Hero 2, but I want to try something different, but comparable.

I am looking for another pair of leather boots, that is - Ankle Length, full grain, reinforced around the heel & toe (not steel/composite, just extra leather), not waterproof (feet get too hot) - definitely GY/hand welted so changing the sole is always an option. They should also be able to take some beating and something I do not have to baby up. No point paying for something and then have to baby it up.
I have owned a number of bike specific boots and in my experience -
- Most shoes that are called "riding boots" aren't really meant to be ridden in. They are just tough looking shoes but will fall apart at first sign of trouble.
- If you really want bullet proof riding boots - there are MX & Enduro boots - but you really need to get used to them, they are stiff, hard to walk in, you can't really feel the controls of the bike. I tried and gave up - settled for something a little more comfortable and a lot more convenient - the Gaerne above.

I was very keen on the Craft & Glory - as they do have a full grain trekking, water resistant boot - that seem to have some of the features I am looking for. However, I was hoping I get some opinion from people who have tried these homegrown brands to vouch for their "abusability".

***this is just my opinion and what works for me - not what the standard is - not too ruffle any feathers.

 

[arj]

Thanks @arj.

I am aware of trip machine and did have their boots for a couple years, then I gave those away. Not sure if their quality has improved, but even though they were OK for what they were charging for "MOTO BOOTS" their quality & overall experience of using that boot was Meh.

I have used a lot of motorcycle gear over 2 decades + of riding, and like everything else there is a lot of gear out there sold as "the gear", but turns out to be absolute cheap garbage. That includes some high end manufacturers too.

My current shoes include -
KLIM Outlander GTX - for weekend trips - where you need a single shoe for riding + a lot of walking and all your luggage is in a backpack - 5 years - though my batch had solid QC issues. In the US they have no questions asked return/repair policy, but in India it is tricky to get.
Gaerne G-Dakar - for long trips - specially reserved for Himalayas where you need solid waterproofing, a lot of torsional rigidity, stiffer sole for standing on the pegs etc etc - 4 years + exceptional boots, just impractical for almost everything off the bike.
TCX Hero - waterproof leather shoes - riding around town - 7 years - brilliant stuff, surprisingly waterproof, look good, feels brilliant. One shoe was left outside in the rain by mistake. So this is what needs replacement - I can always get the TCX Hero 2, but I want to try something different, but comparable.

I am looking for another pair of leather boots, that is - Ankle Length, full grain, reinforced around the heel & toe (not steel/composite, just extra leather), not waterproof (feet get too hot) - definitely GY/hand welted so changing the sole is always an option. They should also be able to take some beating and something I do not have to baby up. No point paying for something and then have to baby it up.
I have owned a number of bike specific boots and in my experience -
- Most shoes that are called "riding boots" aren't really meant to be ridden in. They are just tough looking shoes but will fall apart at first sign of trouble.
- If you really want bullet proof riding boots - there are MX & Enduro boots - but you really need to get used to them, they are stiff, hard to walk in, you can't really feel the controls of the bike. I tried and gave up - settled for something a little more comfortable and a lot more convenient - the Gaerne above.

I was very keen on the Craft & Glory - as they do have a full grain trekking, water resistant boot - that seem to have some of the features I am looking for. However, I was hoping I get some opinion from people who have tried these homegrown brands to vouch for their "abusability".

***this is just my opinion and what works for me - not what the standard is - not too ruffle any feathers.

Really impressive and I was embarrassingly was trying to talk to a fish on swimming !

Why dont you speak to Blackbird shoes and get a custom one made since they do have a custom biker option . maybe oyu can speak to the C&G guys on customising as well ?

Their grizzly green trailmaster looks so good

 

[chander]

Blackbird shoes and get a custom one made since they do have a custom biker option

I couldn't find that - that sounds good!

C&G - yes their himalayan series does sound promising - I was hoping they do not turn out to be another "promising but not delivering" brand.

Really impressive and I was embarrassingly was trying to talk to a fish on swimming !

Not at all - I am far from being the "fish". I am that obese uncle with the opinion on the best Chola Bhatura in the neighbourhood - having compulsively eaten them from every shop in the city for decades.

With like everything else "gear" - what works for one doesn't work for everyone - and my preferences are based heavily due to my biases and preferences.

 

[moktan]

Had acquired these Carmina Shell Cordovan Boots in their Soller Last earlier this year , a more true to size forgiving last than Simpson ..

 

[arj]

I couldn't find that - that sounds good!

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