badrisuper
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I am planning to buy a Solder Iron and other stuffs? Can anyone suggest me good solder Iron and Solder?
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Badri
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Badri
Solder Iron and Stuff???
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Audiodoc
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For normal soldering get a soldron iron and for SMD buy a goot one. If you want costlier solutions you can try temperature controlled ones from weller and goot.
badrisuper
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Is this a good one? Or do you have any suggestions?
Audiodoc
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This one is too costly. The soldron one is 200 rupees while the goot one for smd will cost you 400-500. Choose one of these or both if you are not a professional.
http://www.soldron.com/products/soldering-irons.asp
http://www.goot.co.jp/e/category.html?c=10
http://www.soldron.com/products/soldering-irons.asp
http://www.goot.co.jp/e/category.html?c=10
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vivek.saikia
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Also get yourself a soldering helping hand like these :
Amazon.com: Helping Hands with Magnifying Glass: Home Improvement
Amazon.com: Helping Hands with Magnifying Glass: Home Improvement
badrisuper
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Thanks Audiodoc. And anyone knows where to buy these two mentioned one in chennai? Can I go for this model [ goot's general electronic soldering iron, ks series ]? What would be the cost?
http://www.goot.co.jp/e/item.html?c=11
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In Chennai, all varieties and variants are available at Richie street. Not aware of
current pricing, you could really browse and buy as per your requirements.
I bought my goot with a pointed tip for around 300Rs in bangalore. It is a standard one..not electronic.
HTH
Stick with the Soldrons. They are very good and will suffice for your needs. When you progress further in terms of soldering tiny surface mount devices, or devices that need specific solder temperatures, you can look for Goot, or similar products. Soldrons will be easily available at any electronics parts shop. And they will last, and last, and last.
I am using Soldron 25W since last 20 years with normal bit, now 4th bit in progress and for SMD I use different bit. For soldering connected to metal/chassis I have cheap 100W soldering rod with wooden handle (cost Rs 60/-).
badrisuper
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I have decided to go for soldron or goot. Now another question, which solder is good? Its for my personal use. I want a good one. And which paste too?
sachu888
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60-40 Tin-Led combination is good.Lead free solder is very difficult to work on,never use it.
You can use any solid Wax,but liquid flux is better IMO.
Regards,
Sachin
Soldron have miserable handle ( cheap plastic that hardens and breaks over a period of time)
go for goot.
Audiodoc
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Other manufacturer for good soldering products is hakko. The soldrons are great value for money all you need to do is replace tips. Handles are made of a different plastic than the goot one but they are not as bad as described by some. If you take care of your tools they will last a decade and 160 to 180 bucks isnt a fortune.
I do have soldron that are with me for the last 15-17 years now (3 units ).Couple of them started to fall apart ( no physical damage/accidents etc , usage is about 2-3 times in 2-3 months ) - but still usable. one unit - the handle began to shatter ( about 4-5 years back ) - but still usable, so moved to goot.
in fact I have a couple more, 1 is local made unit ,65 w (this should be about 27+ years old) , not sure if everyone know that these had a heating element wound on a mica sheet - in working condition .
Point is, these are inexpensive "Expenses" that one should not worry about, you can always try out and move on if it becomes a headache or your subsequent experiences demand for superior and precision tools.
Soldron can do most of the job.
in fact I have a couple more, 1 is local made unit ,65 w (this should be about 27+ years old) , not sure if everyone know that these had a heating element wound on a mica sheet - in working condition .
Point is, these are inexpensive "Expenses" that one should not worry about, you can always try out and move on if it becomes a headache or your subsequent experiences demand for superior and precision tools.
Soldron can do most of the job.
My soldron is almost 20 year old, puchased from Lamington Road, M'bai.
Initial 10 year it was working at least 5 hrs, 7 days per week as I was into repairing of gadgets (cable TV accessory, TV, VCRs and radio) for earning money to learn.
After that its almost work 2-3 hrs on week ends. Still I am finding no isues with it. I used good metal stand to keep hot rod. When on stand I kept tip of soldering bit in contact to heavy metal part of stand so that its temperature gets some sink and avoid overheating. THis help keeping long life for bit too.
Not to tell, wires are well protected during work and folded and kept in oiginal cylindrical tube after rod cools down.
Initial 10 year it was working at least 5 hrs, 7 days per week as I was into repairing of gadgets (cable TV accessory, TV, VCRs and radio) for earning money to learn.
After that its almost work 2-3 hrs on week ends. Still I am finding no isues with it. I used good metal stand to keep hot rod. When on stand I kept tip of soldering bit in contact to heavy metal part of stand so that its temperature gets some sink and avoid overheating. THis help keeping long life for bit too.
Not to tell, wires are well protected during work and folded and kept in oiginal cylindrical tube after rod cools down.
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Audiodoc
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10 years back I used the local ones costing 25 bucks. It was big, had a wooden handle and mica insulated heating element and a small life span. I even received a couple of shocks due to poor insulation.
You can solder with a length of copper heated in a fire. You'd need to be very good to make properly wetted gas tight connections. But this is 2012 and you can buy a controlled heat plated tip iron from Weller. The secret is in the tips. They are plated and always take a nice tin, and a magnetic sensor sets the temperature you select.
I have used models similar to this for decades.
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The art of soldering electrical parts is in the preparation. In theory a properly made connection will work even if never soldered. What the solder does is form an alloy between the elements of the connection. This connection is gas tight and will not allow oxygen to cause corrosion.
There are two rules of soldering, follow them and you be successful
1. You must keep your work clean.
2. See rule number one.
Never file a plated tip, use a polishing bar to remove crusty debris.
Always heat the joint and add the solder to the joint.
Watch time and temperature for sensitive parts.
Use as little solder as practical.
Do NOT use acid core flux. Do not use paste or liquid flux. (a few exceptions)
Use 60/40 Sn/Pb solder if possible to prevent tin whiskers.
Use multicore rosin solder. Needs no external flux.
Many countries are eliminating lead from products, and you should learn to use new electronics solders without lead. It melts at higher temperatures, does not wet as well as lead solders, and the flux stinks when melted. It is a good idea. Children should be allowed to grow up without lead in their bodies.
I have used models similar to this for decades.
WD 1000 UK - WELLER - SOLDERING STATION, 230V, UK PLUG | element14 India
The art of soldering electrical parts is in the preparation. In theory a properly made connection will work even if never soldered. What the solder does is form an alloy between the elements of the connection. This connection is gas tight and will not allow oxygen to cause corrosion.
There are two rules of soldering, follow them and you be successful
1. You must keep your work clean.
2. See rule number one.
Never file a plated tip, use a polishing bar to remove crusty debris.
Always heat the joint and add the solder to the joint.
Watch time and temperature for sensitive parts.
Use as little solder as practical.
Do NOT use acid core flux. Do not use paste or liquid flux. (a few exceptions)
Use 60/40 Sn/Pb solder if possible to prevent tin whiskers.
Use multicore rosin solder. Needs no external flux.
Many countries are eliminating lead from products, and you should learn to use new electronics solders without lead. It melts at higher temperatures, does not wet as well as lead solders, and the flux stinks when melted. It is a good idea. Children should be allowed to grow up without lead in their bodies.
I used iron nail to fix my Soldron rod thrice when one wire inside handle got snapped from little diode inside. I heated big nail from its head side by holding in plier on kitchen stove flame and soldered the wire again. That was soldering on Soldron for making it ready to solder on.
But using paste is best way to avoid oxidation of component leads. Why you suggest against it?
IMO, multicore also required plenty of flux during initial heating of surface before you melt that core.
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