Subwoofer - Need advise please

[venkatcr]

The sub I use is Hsu Research's VTF 2 Mark 2.

Cheers

 

[midnitefreakin]

klipsch 10 inch downfiring 350w...arnd 24k but ultimate sound...

 

[shrayv]

klipsch 10 inch downfiring 350w...arnd 24k but ultimate sound...

Which model is this?

Regards,
Shray

 

[midnitefreakin]

Which model is this?

Regards,
Shray

KSW10 and Sub10...both are equally good...

 

[hifiashok]

anyone with experience with Danley Sound Labs - Home of Tom Danley - Innovative Designer of Pro Loudspeakers & Subwoofers. are there any subs in this class that any of us have tried.

 

[venkatcr]

Thank you, Shankar. Given that you have one of the best digital systems possible, the experience must have been even more immersive.

Cheers

 

[inkamit]

I got U-571 just to test what Venkat said and I totally agree. Rare to get one's system exercised so thoroughly!

Hey Shankar,
Could you please tell me where to buy the OPPO BDP83 and also the best price to pay for it?

Regards,
Amit

 

[doors666]

Amit, there are two schools of thought. One is the kind who like boomy sound. These people usually go for large drivers and excessive power. The other is the kind for whom the sub should merge with the rest of the system.

thats not correct. There are tons and tons of commercial subs that use 10" and 12" drivers and are boomy and one note subs. you can make a 8" sub boomy:lol: e.g. just put it in a much smaller than needed cabinet. it will alter the curves and put a boom in it. Usually a boomy sub is the result of a bad design (many times intentionally) in the driver or the cabinet or choosing the wrong sub for your room.

you go for a sub depending upon the size of the room. if you are in a very small room, go for a 8" or a 10" sub. if you are in a larger room (e.g. typical hall+open kitchen+dining etc), you need a 12 or a 15 or an 18". One of the best subs in the world is tc sounds lms 5400 and is an 18" monster. Exodus maestorm 18" or 21" are also damn good subs. These need large cabinets and large rooms to operate properly. A smaller room will have a lot of room gain in the lower frequencies. if u put a large sub in a small room, it will sound boomy due to very high room gain at lower end.

It also depends upon what kind of music you listen to. e.g. classical that has pipe organ can go down to 10-15hz. your usual music will go down to about 30-40hz. If you want a sub to go down to a very low level at a reasonable level, you need a large sub and large cabinets (i.e. without putting equalizers in the electronics, which most of the manufacturers do, but then the head room gets lesser and lesser).

In the old days, sub manufacturers have used large drivers for, shall we say, more sound? Not anymore. Most mass market subs use drivers between 8 to 12 inches. The internal electronics, cabinet construction, bracing, crossover, and amplifier go a long way in deciding the quality of the sub.

thats true. hardly anyone is making commercial subs larger than 12".
Yeah, for more spl and it goes lower.

If you are looking for musical sub, the story is different. You should be looking for a sub that literally disappears and makes you wonder if it is working at all. A sub that merges so well with the front speakers that will make you wonder where the sound is coming from. A sub that is tight and that kills a sound instantaneously. A sub that makes you identify each thud in a roll of drums individually. A sub that enables you to identify a tabla from a mridangam, from a electronic drum easily.

Such subs usually have a 10 or 12 inch driver with about 400-500 watts of amplification.

You can have a 21 incher if you have the room size and can have a large enough (read fridge:lol cabinet (without your wife killing you:lol and still get a very tight sound. These large subs though are only possible with DIY as no manufacturer makes these as the dealers dont have the room to host the large ones. Not only these need more floor space, these also need large rooms to play properly.

 

[alexanish]

Hey, any one tried Velodyne Impact 10 on U571 trailer? I just tried it yesterday. It's amazing as mentioned earlier each explosion is distinctively different. But I couldn't compare this with any other sub as rest of the places were I had auditioned subs doesn't have the U571. Any one tried the scene with any other sub?

One more question, do any one in the forum uses Velodyne Impact 10/12 or Mini?

 

[AMITNOIDA]

you go for a sub depending upon the size of the room. if you are in a very small room, go for a 8" or a 10" sub. if you are in a larger room (e.g. typical hall+open kitchen+dining etc), you need a 12 or a 15 or an 18".

Thanks Doors. This is the input I was looking for and initiated the thread. My room size is 14 ft x 11 ft and there is no connected open area with it. I have thought of Deftech Super cube-III as the probable sub. What's your opinion? Any other suggestion from other good companies within 50k price?

 

[hifiashok]

amitji,

i hav been in the market for a sub for some time now.

the brands i have shortlisted are rythmikaudio.com, seaton-sound-forum.com, HSU, danleysoundlabs.com and epik.

i have already heard the REL Brittania B1 and Deftech Trinity.

hav also checked out a diy passive (kolkata).

still not been able to make up my mind.

tho velodyne promised a home demo, nothing came of it.

looking for inputs like you to close.

 

[AMITNOIDA]

@Ashokji,

This is a high end list of probables. I have to go through their sites for more info. By the way, who has agreed to provide a home demo for velodyne? Is there any dealer at Delhi?

What's your room size?

May we get your feedback on the performance of REL Brittania B1 and Deftech Trinity and their prices. Although these models are way out of my budget.

I am not in hurry. Just purchased an AVR and looking for a pair of bookshelf of my liking. Next in line may be sub.

 

[doors666]

Thanks Doors. This is the input I was looking for and initiated the thread. My room size is 14 ft x 11 ft and there is no connected open area with it. I have thought of Deftech Super cube-III as the probable sub. What's your opinion? Any other suggestion from other good companies within 50k price?

svs has good 10" subs. check those out.

 

[sanjeev Mathur]

Venkat, what subs would you suggest that would fit the description of the sub you have described?

 

[hifiashok]

@Ashokji,

This is a high end list of probables. I have to go through their sites for more info. By the way, who has agreed to provide a home demo for velodyne? Is there any dealer at Delhi?

yes, in c r park as of the last time i met.

What's your room size?

large....

May we get your feedback on the performance of REL Brittania B1

xlnt, but was (IMHO) overpriced.

and Deftech Trinity and their prices.

xlnt again (but very different from the REL), at a hfv member's place in b'lore (dr. subhash).

Although these models are way out of my budget.

I am not in hurry. Just purchased an AVR and looking for a pair of bookshelf of my liking. Next in line may be sub.

 

[ALS]

Are Paradigm DSP3200 & SVS PC12 NSD comparable? Does any one has first hand experience on these?

 

[venkatcr]

Venkat, what subs would you suggest that would fit the description of the sub you have described?

I can only go by the subs I have heard.

In my mind only subs made by specialists companies would fit the bill. Hsu Research, SVS, Meridian, and Earthquake are a few subs that would fit the bill. A friend of mine called the Hsu 'fluid', and that is a very apt way of describing these subs.

Cheers

 

[parora]

I can only go by the subs I have heard.

In my mind only subs made by specialists companies would fit the bill. Hsu Research, SVS, Meridian, and Earthquake are a few subs that would fit the bill. A friend of mine called the Hsu 'fluid', and that is a very apt way of describing these subs.

Cheers

Hello Venkat,

HSU Subs are available in India? And would Polk Audio Dsw560 pass this tested test?

Cheers,

 

[haisaikat]

Me,mandark and subhadeepgayen of this firum have auditioned subs of Yamaha, Sonodyne, Polk, Klipsh and MS Aviano and out of this the MS Aviano 9 sub seemed the best to us with the Daredevil initial boxing scene.. we were blown out. We plan to take a home demo of the same (will play for sure U571) and then decide. Has anyone auditioned this Aviano 9 sub?

 

[sud98]

If possible compare it with DefTech, Velodyne and HSU for the same power range of 300W, it will be good to know how they stand up to the MS AViano sub.