Suggestions please....

[poornima]

Hi all,
Please guide me with your suggestions...

Presently having: LG 32" LCD TV , Dell XPS laptop both with bad audio out put

Looking for: A good music setup and for weekend watch of english movies with a little dts effect

Budget: 50k

Room size: currently staying in rented place, having a open living room cum dining room of size 12' x 20' / in future might move the whole setup to a 12'x 12' kind of a room, if its too Vague let 12' x 12' be considered as the room size

Kind of music: All hindi, telugu (btw from Hyderabad, Andhra pradesh) new (and old too) movie music, Indian Instrumental, Devotional and sufi music, English music from bands/ singers ranging from pink floyd, doors, MJ, lady gaga, katty perry, Kesha, Akon, Usher, Chris brown, shania twain... (sorry about this list, i didnt know which categories they all belong too) all in all i love all kind of music except heavy metal

Presently confused because: To avoid the hassle of shifting the speaker sytem every where i move initially started of with soundbars (yamaha, Philips)
After reading online that they are not meant for music started checking Bose, Sony, yamaha, denon , Onkyo 5.1 channel setup demos. Not happy with any of these fully, i dont really know how to judge by bass, treble and stuff. Its only a instinctive judgement or due to the bad demo setups in most of the cases

What i wish to have: A receiver, sub woofer, 2 or max.5 speaker system. All as compact as possible and no tower speakers ( i only see them as space occupiers, correct me iam wrong)

Hoping to get some help...Poornima, Hyderabad.

 

[jayad08]

Hi all,
Please guide me with your suggestions...

Presently having: LG 32" LCD TV , Dell XPS laptop both with bad audio out put

Looking for: A good music setup and for weekend watch of english movies with a little dts effect

Budget: 50k

Room size: currently staying in rented place, having a open living room cum dining room of size 12' x 20' / in future might move the whole setup to a 12'x 12' kind of a room, if its too Vague let 12' x 12' be considered as the room size

Kind of music: All hindi, telugu (btw from Hyderabad, Andhra pradesh) new (and old too) movie music, Indian Instrumental, Devotional and sufi music, English music from bands/ singers ranging from pink floyd, doors, MJ, lady gaga, katty perry, Kesha, Akon, Usher, Chris brown, shania twain... (sorry about this list, i didnt know which categories they all belong too) all in all i love all kind of music except heavy metal

Presently confused because: To avoid the hassle of shifting the speaker sytem every where i move initially started of with soundbars (yamaha, Philips)
After reading online that they are not meant for music started checking Bose, Sony, yamaha, denon , Onkyo 5.1 channel setup demos. Not happy with any of these fully, i dont really know how to judge by bass, treble and stuff. Its only a instinctive judgement or due to the bad demo setups in most of the cases

What i wish to have: A receiver, sub woofer, 2 or max.5 speaker system. All as compact as possible and no tower speakers ( i only see them as space occupiers, correct me iam wrong)

Hoping to get some help...Poornima, Hyderabad.

There are several possible combinations for a budget of 50k..
starting with HTIBs which wont do justice with music listening..
to a combination of AVR/decent speakers - which in a budget of 50k would mean a 2.1 setup for now rather than 5.1

Check similar threads for more inputs in the speaker/AVR section

 

[poornima]

There are several possible combinations for a budget of 50k..
starting with HTIBs which wont do justice with music listening..
to a combination of AVR/decent speakers - which in a budget of 50k would mean a 2.1 setup for now rather than 5.1

Check similar threads for more inputs in the speaker/AVR section

From what i grasp for a good music output of a setup, the contribution sequence is receiver>sub woofer> speakers so my budget has to be split with great chunk towards AVR and then the rest, is nt it?
in view of this iam fine with a 2.1 setup for now
Can you suggest possible split up for these 3 components in my 50K? i thinks that can be my starting point to try combinations...

 

[poornima]

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Thank you for the offer, but i feel for demo package its over priced, a new Onkyo 307 (with similar features as denon 1509) with 5.1 channel is costing just 34k.

 

[spirovious]

Well,ideally music system shld be seperate than movie(HT).

Still to get balance, AVR from Denon,Marantz,CA are good choices.
For 50k ,Denon1610 (25knew/20k Demo),OR marantz NR 1501 (25k grey) with musical spk like Wharfedale,Q-acoustic can do.
If you need to set 5.1 at a time,then mission MVDS 5.1 for 35k around.

 

[Kittu]

Why dont you audition the speakers that are available in HYD hifi showrooms first ? And then later you can choose the AVR/AMP to drive them.

 

[vinsks]

If you want it for music only then you should go for Stereo setup instead of multi chennel setup. because multi chennel setup are good for movies.

with in 50k budget you some good option like marantz, nad, cambridge audio amps with bookshelf speakers like wharfdale diamond series, quad, moniter audio etc.

but before making your mind do audition.
when you audition stereo amp with speaker. same time try those speaker with AVR then you know the differance. i did the same. and for music stereo setup is far better than multichennel setup.

 

[heynownow]

ANother option is what I can recco is that you have a look at Sonodyne systems. Its a desi brand, but the quality of their products are phenomenal. Go for the Genie 2 aluminium extruded speakers along with the AVR300 receiver. They look good and sound very nice, comparable to the "phoren" ones ... and they last a lifetime.

 

[captrajesh]

Hi
You must first decide which is more important, movies or music. 50k is a decent budget for stereo set up; just ok for HT set up; not for a dual set up. If the movie-music ratio is anything upto 30:70 in for stereo set up. Any higher than 30% in favour of movies, go for HT set up. Go through the old threads under amp/receiver & speakers. U will get a fair idea no what to look for. At the end, only trust ur own ears. Happy hunting.

 

[poornima]

If you want it for music only then you should go for Stereo setup instead of multi chennel setup. because multi chennel setup are good for movies.

with in 50k budget you some good option like marantz, nad, cambridge audio amps with bookshelf speakers like wharfdale diamond series, quad, moniter audio etc.

but before making your mind do audition.
when you audition stereo amp with speaker. same time try those speaker with AVR then you know the differance. i did the same. and for music stereo setup is far better than multichennel setup.

Ya i agree with you that i should go for stereo setup done rather than HT as my 80% usage will be for music. frankly i never heard about the brand you mentioned. so can please tell me where i get to audition the above mention combination by you.
I think you are from Delhi and iam from Hyderabad, i doubt if i get to audition them in my city??anybody any info???

 

[Kittu]

Ya i agree with you that i should go for stereo setup done rather than HT as my 80% usage will be for music. frankly i never heard about the brand you mentioned. so can please tell me where i get to audition the above mention combination by you.
I think you are from Delhi and iam from Hyderabad, i doubt if i get to audition them in my city??anybody any info???

Please read this thread. Call them up and see what brands they carry ? It may be difficult to find all models for an audition. But for each brand you may find one item with those dealers to give you basic idea on the soundstage.

You can also reach out to hyderabad members for auditions. Pretty sure lot of them have those brands mentioned.

http://www.hifivision.com/dealer-feedback-review/2926-av-dealers-hyderabad.html


Kittu

 

[poornima]

Forum members from Hyderabad please let me know if any body has a stereo setup at your place, i would like to come and audition if possible!!!

 

[sandip.jose]

Can anybody out there tell me about the resonable price that can be asked for the following?I'm about to purchase used amp. The choices are follows:

Denon PMA 1315R
Denon RDA 825 R
Marantz PM 43
Nakamichi Amplifier 2

 

[poornima]

Can anybody out there tell me about the resonable price that can be asked for the following?I'm about to purchase used amp. The choices are follows:

Denon PMA 1315R
Denon RDA 825 R
Marantz PM 43
Nakamichi Amplifier 2

Just in case you want to know the mrp. of denon stuff , they should be on this site
Profx - Advanced Audio Solutions

 

[techboy]

Denon is crap.

If you are on a tight budget, go for Yamaha or even Pioneer (although Denon is better, it is more expensive).

If you want to spend as much as Denon then go for Marantz from shopyourworld.com or ebay.com.

Unless you fall in the category, where you don't want to spend 30k and you want to spend over 20k for sure, only then does Denon make some sense.

And what can moderators do to hi fi dealers? They aren't even members, lol!

 

[hemantwaghe]

ANother option is what I can recco is that you have a look at Sonodyne systems. Its a desi brand, but the quality of their products are phenomenal. Go for the Genie 2 aluminium extruded speakers along with the AVR300 receiver. They look good and sound very nice, comparable to the "phoren" ones ... and they last a lifetime.

sonodyne avr is ... what can I say??

buried half dead in past

No HDMI inputs & decoding
NO DTS HD MA Decoding
No Dolby true HD

Remote codes - need to finds
Looks below average IMHO...

and what is the price? anyone knows?

 

[iaudio]

Thank you for the offer, but i feel for demo package its over priced, a new Onkyo 307 (with similar features as denon 1509) with 5.1 channel is costing just 34k.

Is 34k the price of the AVR only? Or with speakers? The AVR is fine but the package price will show variation depending on what speakers it comes bundled with. For eg, htibs come at a cheaper price because the bundled speakers are mediocre.
Though I would reserve my comments on Mridul Goels post, he is right in saying the QA package is very good for the money.

From what i grasp for a good music output of a setup, the contribution sequence is receiver>sub woofer> speakers so my budget has to be split with great chunk towards AVR and then the rest, is nt it?
in view of this iam fine with a 2.1 setup for now
Can you suggest possible split up for these 3 components in my 50K? i thinks that can be my starting point to try combinations...

Poornima, I too started with an AVR, Onkyo 506 with a pair of Mission M33i floorstanders, when my priority was music. Trust me, it is not the way to go. I am not talking on absolute terms, but at the budget we are considering, an AVR( I have tried Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo, Marantz etc) just wont do the job as well as a stereo set up. The Marantz I felt was the best of the lot, doing a decent job with music. there are other brands too, like CA, Nad which make AVRs that do music well. But all this comes at a steep price.

You should reconsider your priority chart.
I would say its:
Good front speakers>Stereo Amp> Good source like CDP/Turntable> Good source material, decent cds and lossless audio files> Decent speaker cables and interconnects.

Ya i agree with you that i should go for stereo setup done rather than HT as my 80% usage will be for music. frankly i never heard about the brand you mentioned. so can please tell me where i get to audition the above mention combination by you.
I think you are from Delhi and iam from Hyderabad, i doubt if i get to audition them in my city??anybody any info???

You are on the right path, an audition of a stereo and AVR set up will give you an idea, but as you are starting out with auditions, you may be too overwhelmed to notice the difference, which you may start noticing once you purchase your rig. So audition as much as possible.

And, yes, forget the subwoofer for the time being.

Hope this helps.

Edit: I have moved on to a stereo set up, and my AVR is used very rarely. And yes, take AVR watt/power rating with a bag of salt.

 

[asliarun]

Hi all,
Please guide me with your suggestions...

Presently having: LG 32" LCD TV , Dell XPS laptop both with bad audio out put

Looking for: A good music setup and for weekend watch of english movies with a little dts effect

Budget: 50k

Room size: currently staying in rented place, having a open living room cum dining room of size 12' x 20' / in future might move the whole setup to a 12'x 12' kind of a room, if its too Vague let 12' x 12' be considered as the room size

Kind of music: All hindi, telugu (btw from Hyderabad, Andhra pradesh) new (and old too) movie music, Indian Instrumental, Devotional and sufi music, English music from bands/ singers ranging from pink floyd, doors, MJ, lady gaga, katty perry, Kesha, Akon, Usher, Chris brown, shania twain... (sorry about this list, i didnt know which categories they all belong too) all in all i love all kind of music except heavy metal

Presently confused because: To avoid the hassle of shifting the speaker sytem every where i move initially started of with soundbars (yamaha, Philips)
After reading online that they are not meant for music started checking Bose, Sony, yamaha, denon , Onkyo 5.1 channel setup demos. Not happy with any of these fully, i dont really know how to judge by bass, treble and stuff. Its only a instinctive judgement or due to the bad demo setups in most of the cases

What i wish to have: A receiver, sub woofer, 2 or max.5 speaker system. All as compact as possible and no tower speakers ( i only see them as space occupiers, correct me iam wrong)

Hoping to get some help...Poornima, Hyderabad.

Poornima, I think you should strongly consider towers or floorstanders as an option. Even in terms of floor space occupied, if you think about it, floorstanding speakers end up taking the same amount of space as a sub-sat (the subwoofer will take up floor space even if you hang your satellites on your wall) or even a pair of bookshelf speakers (you would need to put your bookshelf speakers on stands for good performance which would end up taking the same amount of floor space).

Floorstanders will also give you the necessary bass depth and ability to fill your room so that you can use it for both music and movies. There is a trade-off of course, in the sense that at a given price range, bookshelves will be better built and will usually sound a bit clearer and more musical than their equivalent floorstanders, but they will also not go as deep as floorstanders. Floorstanders will keep things simple for you, in the sense that you don't need to buy anything else. For example, if you buy bookshelf speakers initially because of their better sound, you will probably end up buying a subwoofer later because you will miss the bass in music or for better movie sound effects.

For people beginning their journey in high fidelity audio (and I am one as well), Wharfedale is often a very popular choice. You should definitely audition these speakers both their bookshelf and floorstanders, and both the 9 and 10 series. There are obviously a plethora of other and much better options, but then it all comes down to personal preference and budget.

Remember to take your own music with you, preferably CDs. Take music that is very familiar to you, and try to take all the different types of music that you listen to. Different types of music sound very different in the same speaker.

Anyway, these are just some basic points that I wanted to share with you based on my very limited knowledge of this field.

One more thing: If space is too much of a constraint, you can look at floorstanders with front ports instead of rear ports as you can usually stick them up right against the wall (although it may not give you the best music).

As many others have suggested, you should first finalize a good pair of speakers that you are most happy with. You should also spend the most amount of money on your speakers. Then, figure out a decent stereo amplifier that will be able to drive the speakers. Then, you can continue to make further incremental purchases depending on your budget and requirement. For example, personally, I would say that instead of purchasing a CD player, you can very well make do with just a regular DVD player (with a USB port!) and an internet radio device like what psychotropic has.

 

[theironhorse]

dell xps with bad audio output ??? u mean quality or the volume ??

xps are supposed to have good audio as far i know..
also 50k wud be decent enough for stereo setup..

get an amp and pair of BS as u mentioned 12x12.. and connect your laptop.. that wud do ..

 

[poornima]

You should reconsider your priority chart.
I would say its:
Good front speakers>Stereo Amp> Good source like CDP/Turntable> Good source material, decent cds and lossless audio files> Decent speaker cables and interconnects.


Feel sick so couldnt audition this week, next week i will be visiting the following shops for the following brands:
Good front speakers-Wharfdale in profx, somajiguda
Stereo Amp-Marantz in Soundroom, banjara hills

I didnt understand the following can you eloborate,
Good source like CDP/Turntable?>lossless audio files>Decent speaker cables and interconnects (i thought the cables come with the respective device?)