Tannoy Turnberry speakers audition over this weekend?

[subhobh]

Hello everyone, this is Subho from Gurgaon. Planning to visit Acoustic Arts - CR Park (1 no market) over the comming weekend to audition Tannoy Turnberry Speakers once again, so thought of checking with everyone, if anyone would like to give me a companyhyeah:.

Thanks!
Subho

 

[corElement]

Hmm, are you thinking of going on saturday?

 

[avidyarthy]

MEEEEEE ........ I stay next door ..... lemme know when!

 

[panditji]

Subho, I too would be interested ....pls let me know the details....

 

[subhobh]

I would be glad to get such nice company! Would contact Sunny and let everyone know in advance.

 

[dillihifi]

I am intrested lets see if ithis materialises

 

[2chFreak]

Hope sunny can find the "right" amplifier to do full justice to this speaker & the demo.

Few weeks back, I'd visited a friend at his home & saw his dad with
Turnberry se with st100, Atma Sphere m60mk2, Joule Electra LA100mk3, Esoteric P70/dcS Elgar+/Purcell, Tara Labs IC & spk cables

It was brilliantly executed with most of the goodies one would want from his audio system. Even Pink Floyd sounded divine; though the aged gentleman kept saying wish he had more money to buy the Kensington SE with the alnico magnet in roughly the same sized cabinet.

 

[corElement]

Hope sunny can find the "right" amplifier to do full justice to this speaker & the demo.

Few weeks back, I'd visited a friend at his home & saw his dad with
Turnberry se with st100, Atma Sphere m60mk2, Joule Electra LA100mk3, Esoteric P70/dcS Elgar+/Purcell, Tara Labs IC & spk cables

It was brilliantly executed with most of the goodies one would want from his audio system. Even Pink Floyd sounded divine; though the aged gentleman kept saying wish he had more money to buy the Kensington SE with the alnico magnet in roughly the same sized cabinet.

Who is sunny?

 

[avidyarthy]

The proprietor of Acoustic Arts ....... Sunny Chhibber...

 

[Dr.Bass]

Even Pink Floyd sounded divine;

Did you think Pink Floyd will not work on this speaker ?

 

[2chFreak]

Did you think Pink Floyd will not work on this speaker ?

who said it wont work ? everything works BUT whether is it any good is the POINT !!

The setup I heard was perfectly in line for classical and acoustic jazz. A touch lethargic for rock or Floyd when you put it in direct comparison with ATCs doing the same, esp. SCM-50 A SL.

 

[malvai]

I think that the Tannoy's do everything right! They might not be the last word on resolution... but overall, the best value in loudspeaker technology!

if i had not been lucky in getting the R's from Bhagwan, i'd be happy with the Altec and happier with the Tannoy's!

Even now, I do not mind going for a pair of Vintage Tannoy MG's, just for a different point of view on the recordings... but other things like a expensive RCM have taken priority for now.

Next stop, a pair of Tannoy MG's or HPD's in a custom cabinet being fed through the Accuphase E460's Speaker B terminals!

The Tannoy midrange is a class all its own

 

[Dr.Bass]

who said it wont work ? everything works BUT whether is it any good is the POINT !!

The setup I heard was perfectly in line for classical and acoustic jazz. A touch lethargic for rock or Floyd when you put it in direct comparison with ATCs doing the same, esp. SCM-50 A SL.

Works means "works well", in general

Pink floyd on ATC is of course the reference because they are mastered on ATC and when we talk about active ATC it is a different realm. Unfortunately there are no active Tannoys in the prestige line for an apple to apple comparison. However, the Tannoys when powered the same way as we do to an ATC, clean big amplification doesnt lack speed at all, they rock the hell out of the house but they somehow preserve a sweetness, wetness in the textures and tones that allows the listener to smile and indulge. I have heard the Tannoys powered with 200 watts monoblocks and they absolutely seemed to "deserve" the power. They dont need it but if fed well they are happy. It is a situation not easy to define. When you listen to it on different amps you realize it is nicely showing up what the amp is doing, yet never failing to entertain.

That is the reason you see this speaker being used with a variety of amplifications. Some like it with their SETs, some need their 50-100 watt push pulls, some OTLs and some hard core SS. All of them enjoy their music while exactly knowing why the other guy did not choose the same category of amplification. Crazy stuff !!

 

[corElement]

Some like it with their SETs, some need their 50-100 watt push pulls, some OTLs and some hard core SS. All of them enjoy their music while exactly knowing why the other guy did not choose the same category of amplification. Crazy stuff !!

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It's a shame a lot of people fight over it instead of see it like this.

 

[Dr.Bass]

I think that the Tannoy's do everything right! They might not be the last word on resolution... but overall, the best value in loudspeaker technology!

if i had not been lucky in getting the R's from Bhagwan, i'd be happy with the Altec and happier with the Tannoy's!

Even now, I do not mind going for a pair of Vintage Tannoy MG's, just for a different point of view on the recordings... but other things like a expensive RCM have taken priority for now.

Next stop, a pair of Tannoy MG's or HPD's in a custom cabinet being fed through the Accuphase E460's Speaker B terminals!

The Tannoy midrange is a class all its own

Manav, I dont have experience with older Tannoy monitor golds and such. I have only read that the new gen Tannoys are more transparent and detailed than the older ones. But whether they lose something in the process, that can only be confirmed on listening to a few older speakers.

Having said that, a new age Turnberry doesnt lack in either detail retrieval or transparency in comparison to typical modern speaker. Coming from the Dynaudio and ATC background, at least I dont hear any loss in detail. Compared to the ATC, the presentation is a bit different, so some details which sound more fleshed out on ATC can sound just present on the Tannoys and some which the Tannoys reveal goes unnoticed on the ATC (though it is there), just that. In fact the Tannoys present more "relevant" micro details on to your lap than the ATC (passive) which makes for a listening that is exciting yet relaxed, full with musical nuances. It is mostly due to its high efficiency and horn loaded tweeter which is the best tweeter I have ever heard till date.

I know what it lacks compared to an Altec though

 

[Asit]

To add to what Dr. Bass has just said, let me just say that the MGs (especially the 15") were of course legendary speakers, but the present Tannoys (I have heard only the Turnberrys and GleanAirs, and the T'berrys are way better) are better when it comes to pace & rhythm. This is the general feeling I have. Of course, to make a more qualified comment, one has to listen to these speakers with the same accompanying equipments and surroundings.

There is a way to understand why a 15" high sensitivity driver may be worse than a 10" high sensitivity driver. Generally the 15" would respond to any tiny signal well because of their high sensitivity, but because of higher mass and inertia, the damping will be slower. Quick damping is necessary to accommodate the next sound the amp is sending, otherwise pace & rhythm will suffer.

The T'berrys do not lack anything in detail and resolution and is tonally very balanced, not just a mid-range wonder. The super tweeter ST200 is simply excellent. Having said all that, resolution is not everything in music reproduction. Beyond a point it's actually meaningless and potentially can make the sound edgy, then one has to be very careful about cables and such things to balance out things.

Regards.

 

[malvai]

I agree... The newer tannoy's are better! However the older ones are not bad for the prices! As a second set up, especially

 

[Dr.Bass]

Few more words about Tannoy tweeters:
It is a metal dome tweeter in a horn guided configuration. Generally metal dome raises eyebrows because it means the treble would most probably be a bit over the top, sometimes aggressive, sometimes hot, sometimes harsh, sometimes thin and sometimes plain metallic. Some or the other "bothering" artefacts is generally present in every other metal dome tweeter I have heard. Good thing is, they normally have very good extension.

I really like the Dynaudio Esotar and the Scanspeak dome tweeters. Somehow I havent been able to like any of the ribbon tweeters till date, except the Magnepans which is an all ribbon panel. I also loved the treble from the eletrostats, though not for all kinds of music. BTW, I have to admit that I am not too fussed about tweeters. When I audition a speaker, naturally my attention goes towards mids and lows. Unless there is something special or something wrong happening in the treble range I dont bother to understand more about it. This could be the reason only very few tweeters have caught my attention.

With the Tannoys, it is the tweeter that I seem to admire the most even though it has an outstanding midrange and a classy bass response:licklips:. The tweeters on the Tannoy is very accurate tonally, gives a brassy golden sparkle to the notes, high resolution without any sense of hifi-sh ness and the body...the body of the treble that it presents I have never heard anywhere till date. The sound of a bell or a cymbal feels like a solid metal thing of the size that we see in real life. That well defined treble body along with a clean decay, it really feels surreal. The sound of brass horns has never been as dynamically palpably present in my experience as with this tweeter in action. And there is never a hint of additional sibilance or bite, just the right amount of attack that is required to present the throw of the instrumental notes or voices and give a sense of "live". This tweeter has become my all time reference now. I know it is not just the tweeter but also the implementation with its horn loading and dual concentric cone acting as a further horn guide. Together it never ceases to amaze me.

The one downside to this is, because of this horn based configuration it becomes extremely important to have the tweeters at the ear height. Even 1-2 inches of deviation means a significant change in the presentation. It will never cease to be musical but you lose some vital cues which separates a near-live experience from good in-home experience.

 

[Dr.Bass]

There is a way to understand why a 15" high sensitivity driver may be worse than a 10" high sensitivity driver. Generally the 15" would respond to any tiny signal well because of their high sensitivity, but because of higher mass and inertia, the damping will be slower. Quick damping is necessary to accommodate the next sound the amp is sending, otherwise pace & rhythm will suffer.

Asit, I think this is where the Alnico magnets come into picture. Alnico magnets due to their very strong and stable magnetic field (compared to ferrite magnets) should hold the bigger cones much more in control. So the advantage higher sensitivity of 15" remains and also the cone movement becomes much more well behaved and accurate. Kensington and above have the Alnico

 

[2chFreak]

Alnico magnets due to their very strong and stable magnetic field (compared to ferrite magnets) should hold the bigger cones much more in control. So the advantage higher sensitivity of 15" remains and also the cone movement becomes much more well behaved and accurate. Kensington and above have the Alnico

And this is why the aged gentleman I visited said "wish i had more money to buy the Kensington SE". The damping is superior. Quite a bit that am told. But sadly, the price differential is almost DBL.